Smoking in European hotels?

Lennart Petersen wrote:

"a.spencer3" skrev i meddelandet
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The English 'enclosed space' rules don't apply to hotel rooms - it's still
perfectly possible to get 'smoking' rooms.

Surreyman

Think it's best so. All room being no-smoking means probably that one or
another smoker lights up in the room despite not allowed so.

I didn't think it was best so when I couldn't get a non-smoking room
once, despite having reserved one. When possible, I choose a non-smoking
hotel.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" skrev i meddelandet
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Lennart Petersen wrote:

"a.spencer3" skrev i meddelandet
...
[]
The English 'enclosed space' rules don't apply to hotel rooms - it's
still
perfectly possible to get 'smoking' rooms.

Surreyman

Think it's best so. All room being no-smoking means probably that one
or
another smoker lights up in the room despite not allowed so.

I didn't think it was best so when I couldn't get a non-smoking room
once, despite having reserved one. When possible, I choose a non-smoking
hotel.
I do so when asked as I'm a non-smoker. But do you really prefer a
non-smoking room where the previous guest have smoked ?

Lennart Petersen wrote:

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" skrev i meddelandet
...
Lennart Petersen wrote:

"a.spencer3" skrev i meddelandet
...
[]
The English 'enclosed space' rules don't apply to hotel rooms - it's
still
perfectly possible to get 'smoking' rooms.

Surreyman

Think it's best so. All room being no-smoking means probably that one
or
another smoker lights up in the room despite not allowed so.

I didn't think it was best so when I couldn't get a non-smoking room
once, despite having reserved one. When possible, I choose a non-smoking
hotel.
I do so when asked as I'm a non-smoker. But do you really prefer a
non-smoking room where the previous guest have smoked ?

Can't say it's ever happened, and if it did, I'd complain to the hotel.
I'm surprised that hotels allow it at all, given the fire risk etc.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Lennart Petersen wrote:

"a.spencer3" skrev i meddelandet
...
[]
The English 'enclosed space' rules don't apply to hotel rooms - it's still
perfectly possible to get 'smoking' rooms.

Surreyman

Think it's best so. All room being no-smoking means probably that one or
another smoker lights up in the room despite not allowed so.

I didn't think it was best so when I couldn't get a non-smoking room
once, despite having reserved one. When possible, I choose a non-smoking
hotel.

Last year in France I was checking into a hotel, and the receptionist
asked if I wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. My reply was that she
could give me whatever was most convenient for the house because,
although I smoke, I never smoke in bedrooms. She decided to give me a
smoking room because there might be an odour of smoke from my clothes.

Beware David! I would not be averse to staying in a non-smoking hotel.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Lennart Petersen wrote:

"a.spencer3" skrev i meddelandet
...
[]
The English 'enclosed space' rules don't apply to hotel rooms - it's
still perfectly possible to get 'smoking' rooms.

Surreyman

Think it's best so. All room being no-smoking means probably that
one or another smoker lights up in the room despite not allowed so.

I didn't think it was best so when I couldn't get a non-smoking room
once, despite having reserved one. When possible, I choose a non-smoking
hotel.

Last year in France I was checking into a hotel, and the receptionist
asked if I wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. My reply was that she
could give me whatever was most convenient for the house because,
although I smoke, I never smoke in bedrooms. She decided to give me a
smoking room because there might be an odour of smoke from my clothes.

Beware David! I would not be averse to staying in a non-smoking hotel.

I know! The Ibis you recommended in Lisbon was non-smoking!

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

Beware David! I would not be averse to staying in a non-smoking hotel.

I know! The Ibis you recommended in Lisbon was non-smoking!

I didn't remember that, which tells you how low smoking is on my list
of criteria for selecting hotels. Yet I would never leave the house,
even to go for a newspaper, without having pipe and tobacco with me.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Padraig Breathnach wrote:

Beware David! I would not be averse to staying in a non-smoking hotel.

I know! The Ibis you recommended in Lisbon was non-smoking!

I didn't remember that, which tells you how low smoking is on my list
of criteria for selecting hotels.

It's possible it wasn't entirely non-smoking when you were there- we
were there in April.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He can't be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

a.spencer3 wrote:

During 2006 I had no problem locating hotels that allowed smoking within our
own room (non-smoking rooms were available for those who wished this).

This year, my travel agent informs me that this is virtually impossible to
locate (in Italy, specifically).

Has something happened in the meantime?

Or do I sack the travel agent?

I hesitate to suggest it, but why not simply stop smoking?
;-) (I know, I know, there's nothing "simple" about it, but
think how good for your health.)


Surreyman

B Vaughan wrote:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:23:24 GMT, "a.spencer3"
wrote:


During 2006 I had no problem locating hotels that allowed smoking within our
own room (non-smoking rooms were available for those who wished this).

This year, my travel agent informs me that this is virtually impossible to
locate (in Italy, specifically).

Has something happened in the meantime?


It's certainly becoming rarer. What happened was that Italy outlawed
smoking in bars and restaurants, except under certain very restrictive
conditions. Everyone thought it would never work, but it turned out
that Italy was full of long-suffering nonsmokers who very quickly made
the most of the law and began complaining about smoke in every other
place as well. For example, among the private group we play cards
with, the nonsmokers began to demand that the smokers go outside to
indulge. Hotels apparently have seen that it pays to ban smoking.

I would imagine it lowers the fire hazard, also! (And
hence, insurance rates.)

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:

a.spencer3 wrote:


"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
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The English 'enclosed space' rules don't apply to hotel rooms -


Nor does the Italian law.


it's still
perfectly possible to get 'smoking' rooms.


For the moment. A lot of B&Bs are increasingly non-smoking though.

I wish my apartment complex in Arizona were! I never asked
for a fenced yard, but am responsible for maintaining it. I
am VERY tired of cleaning up all the cigarette butts that
inconsiderate neighbors flip over the fence into my patio!