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Old June 15th, 2007, 10:26 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all
Security Stories
by Bill Adler | June 14, 2007 at 06:10 am | 90786 views | 50 comments

Monica Emmerson, her son, and the sippy cup.

by Bill Adler
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If you travel enough, you've seen it all -- and possibly some of the
awful things that can happen while traveling will have actually
happened to you. But nothing I've read about or experienced comes
close to what Monica Emmerson experienced while at Reagan National
Airport on June 11th while traveling with her 19-month-old toddler.
This isn't one of those Catch-22 bureaucratic snafus; this isn't about
rules being applied to the letter. This story is mostly about what can
happen simply because the authorities in charge decide that they're
going to exercise their authority because they can, regardless of
whether it's legal or right or makes any sense at all.

And if this can happen to a former law enforcement officer with the
United States Secret Service, it can happen to anyone.

The incident started when Monica, who left the Secret Service to raise
a family, was stopped while going through airport security because
there was water in her son's sippy cup. The sippy cup was seized by
TSA. Monica wanted the cup back because the sippy cup was the only way
her son would drink -- and it was a long flight between Washington, DC
and Reno, Nevada where she was going for a family reunion. If you've
ever had a toddler you understand about sippy cups.

So she was willing to spill the water out. Drink the water. Anything
-- all that she wanted was to be able to have a cup that her 19-month-
old toddler could drink from.

Here's what happened in Monica's words:

"I demanded to speak to a TSA [Transportation Security Administration]
supervisor who asked me if the water in the sippy cup was 'nursery
water or other bottled water.' I explained that the sippy cup water
was filtered tap water. The sippy cup was seized as my son was
pointing and crying for his cup. I asked if I could drink the water to
get the cup back, and was advised that I would have to leave security
and come back through with an empty cup in order to retain the cup. As
I was escorted out of security by TSA and a police officer, I
unscrewed the cup to drink the water, which accidentally spilled
because I was so upset with the situation.

"At this point, I was detained against my will by the police officer
and threatened to be arrested for endangering other passengers with
the spilled 3 to 4 ounces of water. I was ordered to clean the water,
so I got on my hands and knees while my son sat in his stroller with
no shoes on since they were also screened and I had no time to put
them back on his feet. I asked to call back my fiancé, who I could
still see from afar, waiting for us to clear security, to watch my son
while I was being detained, and the officer threatened to arrest me if
I moved. So I yelled past security to get the attention of my fiancé.

"I was ordered to apologize for the spilled water, and again
threatened with arrest. I was threatened several times with arrest
while detained, and while three other police officers were called to
the scene of the mother with the 19 month old. A total of four police
officers and three TSA officers reported to the scene where I was
being held against my will. I was also told that I should not
disrespect the officer and could be arrested for this too. I
apologized to the officer and she continued to detain me despite me
telling her that I would miss my flight. The officer advised me that I
should have thought about this before I 'intentionally spilled the
water!'"

Monica said that the incident ended this way: "I missed my flight,
needless to say after being detained for over 40 minutes. After the
officer was done humiliating me, I was advised that I could go through
the security check point in an attempt to catch my flight. The officer
insisted that my son and I be rescreened despite us both being
detained and under her control the entire time."

During the weeks and months after 9/11 some passengers who were caught
with unidentified fluids while going through airport security were
told to drink the liquid (including breast milk) to prove that it
wasn't an explosive. In one incident, a fourteen year old boy was
ordered to drink water that he was carrying, and it turned out that
this was unclean pond water he was carrying for a science project.
Monica was more than happy to drink her child's tap water --all three
or four ounces of it-- and tried, in fact. But it was the trying and
spilling that seems to have escalated this into a situation that
required the presence of four TSA officers and three police officers.

TSA found no other security problems with Monica Emmerson. Not even a
nail clipper. Just the water and the sippy cup.

TSA's rules allow passengers to take up to three ounces of liquid on
board; they also allow parents to take milk or baby formula on board
in larger quantities than that, if declared to TSA. But the question
that she was asked by TSA --was this "nursery water" in the sippy
cup?-- was an unanswerable one, since there's no such thing as nursery
water in the TSA regulations, and it's not a generic term.

Monica Emmerson was detained for 45 minutes. She wasn't questioned
about possible ties to terrorists. Her carry-on items weren't
rigorously searched -- or even searched again. Neither the police nor
TSA took any action that indicated that they throught she might be a
security risk. She was just detained, harassed and threatened with
arrest. All because of a sippy cup with water in it.


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Old June 15th, 2007, 03:44 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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"R Brickston" rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ wrote:
["I demanded to speak to a TSA supervisor...
I was escorted out of security by TSA and a police officer,
I unscrewed the cup to drink the water, which accidentally
spilled because I was so upset with the situation.


This is what caused the problem. The blow by blow description
of this event would be interesting... I wonder what Ms.
Emmerson's actual attitude was and in what way was the water
actually spilled.


Reading between the lines: She may have come across as a tad
more beligerent and hostile that it sounds on paper. While the
spilling may have been accidental, what they may have seen was
her turning the cup upside down, after giving them a piece of her
mind. There are usually 2 sides. =R=


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Old June 15th, 2007, 04:03 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:26:55 -0000 '
posted this onto rec.travel.air:

Travel News
Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all
Security Stories
by Bill Adler | June 14, 2007 at 06:10 am | 90786 views | 50 comments

Monica Emmerson, her son, and the sippy cup.


http://www.nowpublic.com/nightmare_a...curity_stories



Evidence that America is becoming a fascist state.
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Old June 15th, 2007, 07:33 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Rog' wrote:

"R Brickston" rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ wrote:
["I demanded to speak to a TSA supervisor...
I was escorted out of security by TSA and a police officer,
I unscrewed the cup to drink the water, which accidentally
spilled because I was so upset with the situation.


This is what caused the problem. The blow by blow description
of this event would be interesting... I wonder what Ms.
Emmerson's actual attitude was and in what way was the water
actually spilled.


Reading between the lines: She may have come across as a tad
more beligerent and hostile that it sounds on paper. While the
spilling may have been accidental, what they may have seen was
her turning the cup upside down, after giving them a piece of her
mind. There are usually 2 sides. =R=



Yup, she sounds like a silly bitch...

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Best
Greg


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Old June 15th, 2007, 08:20 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all Security Stories

In message Larry in AZ
wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, hummingbird
said:

Evidence that America is becoming a fascist state.


Evidence that you're a total asshole.

What about the other 399,000,000 passengers who had no problems with TSA..?


How many of those 399,000,000 passengers had problems, but didn't make a
national incident out of it?

--
If quitters never win, and winners never quit,
what fool came up with, "Quit while you're ahead"?
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Old June 15th, 2007, 08:35 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all Security Stories

Rog' writes:

Reading between the lines: She may have come across as a tad
more beligerent and hostile that it sounds on paper. While the
spilling may have been accidental, what they may have seen was
her turning the cup upside down, after giving them a piece of her
mind. There are usually 2 sides. =R=


Even if that were true, how would it justify arrest?
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Old June 15th, 2007, 09:09 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all Security Stories

"Mxsmanic" wrote:
Rog' writes:
Reading between the lines: She may have come across as a tad
more beligerent and hostile that it sounds on paper. While the
spilling may have been accidental, what they may have seen was
her turning the cup upside down, after giving them a piece of her
mind. There are usually 2 sides. =R=


Even if that were true, how would it justify arrest?


Where I live, Disorderly Conduct (a/k/a Breach of the Peace) and
Opposing a Law Enforcement Officer (in performing a duty) are
misdemeanors for which one can be arrested. Now, the TSA guys
apparently overreacted (without knowing what she may have said
to **** them off), but I would not be at all surprised to find that the
former Secret Service agent was not beyond trying to throw her
weight around or part the Red Sea. =R=


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Old June 16th, 2007, 01:19 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:07:53 GMT 'Larry in AZ'
posted this onto rec.travel.air:

Waiving the right to remain silent, hummingbird
said:

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:26:55 -0000 '
posted this onto rec.travel.air:

Travel News
Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all
Security Stories
by Bill Adler | June 14, 2007 at 06:10 am | 90786 views | 50 comments

Monica Emmerson, her son, and the sippy cup.


http://www.nowpublic.com/nightmare_a...rt_a_security_
story_to_end_all_security_stories



Evidence that America is becoming a fascist state.


Evidence that you're a total asshole.

What about the other 399,000,000 passengers who had no problems with TSA..?


You can provide evidence of that can you?

Being in denial will not entitle you to special treatment.
 




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