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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularlylast year
Tom P wrote:
Mike Lane wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:24:48 +0000, Lord Taylor of Blackburn wrote (in article ): indeed, driving is not their strong point, and they still persist with priority to the right ********.....just paint a white line on the road ! Could you explain that for the benefit of ignoramuses please? When I started driving in France a few years ago I was petrified of the "priorité a droit". This, as I discovered has been largely abandoned in France, and when it's in force it is clearly signed. What is the situation in Belgium? It's the rule in several countries in the absence of other road markings, most commonly in quiet residential areas. Here in Germany I can show you a dozen road crossings within 2km of my home where priority from the right is the rule. So, if you think that priority from the right doesn't exist, you are just indulging in wishful thinking. T. PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_to_the_right "The system is stipulated in Article 18.4.a of the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic for countries where traffic keeps to the right and applies to all intersections where it is not overridden by priority signs ... .... The system is widely used in countries with right-hand traffic, including most European countries." T. |
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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularly last year
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:00:28 +0000, Tom P wrote
(in article ): It's the rule in several countries in the absence of other road markings, most commonly in quiet residential areas. Here in Germany I can show you a dozen road crossings within 2km of my home where priority from the right is the rule. So, if you think that priority from the right doesn't exist, you are just indulging in wishful thinking. It's not a case of 'wishing' for anything in particular, I'm simply saying what I have observed. In urban areas if there are no road markings I find it safest to assume that no one has priority, and give way to whoever seems to want it - whichever country I'm in. In France however there appears to have been a deliberate policy to educate drivers away from the old 'priorité ŕ droit' system where vehicles would pull out into the traffic on a main road, assuming priority. Main roads have regular diamond-shaped priority signs and often they will actually spell it out with 'Vous n'avez pas la priorité' signs -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire |
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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularlylast year
Mike Lane wrote:
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:00:28 +0000, Tom P wrote (in article ): It's the rule in several countries in the absence of other road markings, most commonly in quiet residential areas. Here in Germany I can show you a dozen road crossings within 2km of my home where priority from the right is the rule. So, if you think that priority from the right doesn't exist, you are just indulging in wishful thinking. It's not a case of 'wishing' for anything in particular, I'm simply saying what I have observed. In urban areas if there are no road markings I find it safest to assume that no one has priority, and give way to whoever seems to want it - whichever country I'm in. Wrong. In an urban area, the absence of road markings means that priority is from the right, and you can expect drivers to come straight out of a sideroad on the right without stopping. They are perfectly entitled to. In France however there appears to have been a deliberate policy to educate drivers away from the old 'priorité ŕ droit' system where vehicles would pull out into the traffic on a main road, assuming priority. Main roads have regular diamond-shaped priority signs and often they will actually spell it out with 'Vous n'avez pas la priorité' signs The diamond-shaped sign is used outside built-up areas to mean you are on a priority road. If you see a 'Vous n'avez pas la priorité' on a "main" road, it's a reminder that you do NOT have priority. I've noticed that Anglophone drivers tend to regard these traffic rules in mainland Europe with disbelief, if not downright laughable. Several years ago I was witness to a bad accident with serious injuries in an Amsterdam suburb at such a traffic junction, so I'd like to emphasize that this is no joke. Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_to_the_right T. |
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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularlylast year
On Feb 1, 6:05*pm, Tom P wrote:
Mike Lane wrote: On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 00:00:28 +0000, Tom P wrote (in article ): It's the rule in several countries in the absence of other road markings, most commonly in quiet residential areas. Here in Germany I can show you a dozen road crossings within 2km of my home where priority from the right is the rule. * So, if you think that *priority from the right doesn't exist, you are just indulging in wishful thinking. It's not a case of 'wishing' for anything in particular, I'm simply saying what I have observed. In urban areas if there are no road markings I find it safest to assume that no one has priority, and give way to whoever seems to want it - whichever country I'm in. Wrong. In an urban area, the absence of road markings means that priority is from the right, and you can expect drivers to come straight out of a sideroad on the right without stopping. They are perfectly entitled to. In France however there appears to have been a deliberate policy to educate drivers away from the old 'priorité ŕ droit' system where vehicles would pull out into the traffic on a main road, *assuming priority. Main roads have regular diamond-shaped priority signs and often they will actually spell it out with 'Vous n'avez pas la priorité' signs The diamond-shaped sign is used outside built-up areas to mean you are on a priority road. If you see a 'Vous n'avez pas la priorité' on a "main" road, it's a reminder that you do NOT have priority. I've noticed that Anglophone drivers tend to regard these traffic rules in mainland Europe with disbelief, if not downright laughable. Several years ago I was witness to a bad accident with serious injuries in an Amsterdam suburb at such a traffic junction, so I'd like to emphasize that this is no joke. Have a look athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_to_the_right T. its a ****ing useless system that leads to problems... |
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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularly last year
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:05:44 +0000, Tom P wrote
(in article ): The diamond-shaped sign is used outside built-up areas to mean you are on a priority road. If you see a 'Vous n'avez pas la priorité' on a "main" road, it's a reminder that you do NOT have priority. I am well aware of what the signs mean thank you. -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire |
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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularly last year
Mike Lane wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:24:48 +0000, Lord Taylor of Blackburn wrote (in article ): indeed, driving is not their strong point, and they still persist with priority to the right ********.....just paint a white line on the road ! Could you explain that for the benefit of ignoramuses please? When I started driving in France a few years ago I was petrified of the "priorité a droit". This, as I discovered has been largely abandoned in France, and when it's in force it is clearly signed. Yes, that is the case. |
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Number of traffic fatalities in Belgium dropped spectacularlylast year
On Feb 1, 6:05*pm, Tom P wrote:
Several years ago I was witness to a bad accident with serious injuries in an Amsterdam suburb at such a traffic junction, so I'd like to emphasize that this is no joke. Aah - of course - in Holland - where drivers are so selfish and stupid that they insist on their "right of way" even if it means crashing into another car. At least while they bleed over the wreckage they are happy that they were in the right. B; |
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