Costs in Myanmar

Hi

I am travelling with my partner in January and I was wondering how much
should I budget per day. Considering, when I went through Viet Nam a few
years ago, I was averaging about $15 pdpp. Should I be looking at a similar
amount or more. I am flying between Yangon and Mandaly so I am not including
this in the budget.

Also, are hotels and internal bus travel comparable in prices to Laos and
what are the costs to Bagan per day at present

Thanks

David

"Davros"
what are the costs to Bagan per day at present

David

Keep in mind that there are some very particular "costs" in Myanmar:

1. Donations
You want to go to Bagan. isn't it ?
Lots of temples and pagodas.
In almost every temple there is a donation box.
Of course there is no obligation, but...

2. Toll roads and unexpected road blocks
Not allways cleary whether you have to pay and how much,
even not for experienced travelers or official guides.

3. Public collections (fund raising) and
Mendicant processions.
Of course there is no obligation, but...

4. Tip
Airport-employees, drivers, guides, porters, personal assistants, advisors,
bell-boys,
they all expect some kind of tip / gratuity
Of course there is no obligation, but...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...


But you will save a lot on communication costs...
...because there simply isn't mobile phone or e-mail
(except for Yangon and Mandalay, there are some internet-cafe's)

And the total average needed is ????


"Dieter Aa" Dieter wrote in message
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"Davros"
what are the costs to Bagan per day at present

David

Keep in mind that there are some very particular "costs" in Myanmar:

1. Donations
You want to go to Bagan. isn't it ?
Lots of temples and pagodas.
In almost every temple there is a donation box.
Of course there is no obligation, but...

2. Toll roads and unexpected road blocks
Not allways cleary whether you have to pay and how much,
even not for experienced travelers or official guides.

3. Public collections (fund raising) and
Mendicant processions.
Of course there is no obligation, but...

4. Tip
Airport-employees, drivers, guides, porters, personal assistants,
advisors,
bell-boys,
they all expect some kind of tip / gratuity
Of course there is no obligation, but...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...


But you will save a lot on communication costs...
..because there simply isn't mobile phone or e-mail
(except for Yangon and Mandalay, there are some internet-cafe's)

In article , "Dieter Aa"
Dieter says...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...

We didn't meet any beggars in Myanmar last December. Not saying that
there are none, just that we didn't see any. It may be a poor country
but you are not confronted with poverty on the streets. Possibly most
people have enough to live.
--

Alfred Molon
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Dieter says...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...

We didn't meet any beggars in Myanmar last December. Not saying that
there are none, just that we didn't see any. It may be a poor country
but you are not confronted with poverty on the streets. Possibly most
people have enough to live.

Begging is a function of demand (poor people willing to beg) and supply
(rich people willing to give). Most probably, both factors are influencing
the relative scarcity of begging in Myanmar.

Sjoerd

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
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Dieter says...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...

We didn't meet any beggars in Myanmar last December. Not saying that
there are none, just that we didn't see any. It may be a poor country
but you are not confronted with poverty on the streets. Possibly most
people have enough to live.
--
I have never been to Burma but I guess you are bull****ting.

"Alfred Molon" schreef in bericht
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In article , "Dieter Aa"
Dieter says...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...

We didn't meet any beggars in Myanmar last December. Not saying that
there are none, just that we didn't see any. It may be a poor country
but you are not confronted with poverty on the streets. Possibly most
people have enough to live.

Up to my knowledge, all people in Myamnar have enough FOOD to live.
And, yes, there are beggars in Myanmar. I have seen at least 5 people
begging for money last month
(in KyengTong, Sittwe, also in Bago)
Most guides, hotel- and restaurant owners shout them all sorts of names to
keep them away from the tourists.

My point was that, apart from food, people also have other needs.
That kind of needs are sometimes so obvious, so glaring, that you must be
very insensitive not to try to do something about it.
And I agree, this kind of needs are not always visible from the touristic
roads in central Myanmar.

Well I have just been to one small place on the border with Thailand and
children did beg !
Not adults though

"Alfred Molon" a écrit dans le message de
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In article , "Dieter Aa"
Dieter says...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...

We didn't meet any beggars in Myanmar last December. Not saying that
there are none, just that we didn't see any. It may be a poor country
but you are not confronted with poverty on the streets. Possibly most
people have enough to live.
--

Alfred Molon
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"Runge" wrote
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Well I have just been to one small place on the border with Thailand

Tachileik ?

and
children did beg !
Not adults though

I have seen adult beggars too there.

There are beggars in Helsinki.

"Runge" wrote in message
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Well I have just been to one small place on the border with Thailand and
children did beg !
Not adults though

"Alfred Molon" a écrit dans le message de
news.com...
In article , "Dieter Aa"
Dieter says...

4. Poor people:
Glaring / flagrant injustice or poverty
Of course there is no obligation, but...

We didn't meet any beggars in Myanmar last December. Not saying that
there are none, just that we didn't see any. It may be a poor country
but you are not confronted with poverty on the streets. Possibly most
people have enough to live.
--

Alfred Molon
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