Overland Laos to Cambodia

A good new write up about what is to be seen on the route between Laos
and Cambodia and vice versa is in this month's Phnom Penh based Bayon
Pearnik magazine. See their August of 2006 edition on

http://bayonpearnik.com/

A visa for Cambodia may now be available at the border crossing itself,
but to avoid the "scamsters" at this crossing, get a visa for Cambodia
before departing Vientiane. It takes only 24 hours and costs 20 dollars
exactly. There are no scams to be encountered at the Embassy of
Cambodia in Vientiane.

In the northbound direction, a visa for Laos must be in your passport
before heading for the Cambodia / Laos border. Get a visa for Laos at
the Embassy of Laos in Bangkok, or at the Embassy of Laos in Phnom
Penh. There is no Consulate of Laos in Siem Reap or Battambang or Stung
Treng.

Great pics! Phnom Pen seems to develop fast!

Thanks for showing.

wrote:
A good new write up about what is to be seen on the route between Laos
and Cambodia and vice versa is in this month's Phnom Penh based Bayon
Pearnik magazine. See their August of 2006 edition on

http://bayonpearnik.com/

A visa for Cambodia may now be available at the border crossing itself,
but to avoid the "scamsters" at this crossing, get a visa for Cambodia
before departing Vientiane. It takes only 24 hours and costs 20 dollars
exactly. There are no scams to be encountered at the Embassy of
Cambodia in Vientiane.

In the northbound direction, a visa for Laos must be in your passport
before heading for the Cambodia / Laos border. Get a visa for Laos at
the Embassy of Laos in Bangkok, or at the Embassy of Laos in Phnom
Penh. There is no Consulate of Laos in Siem Reap or Battambang or Stung
Treng.

An obvious question is about current developments in Vientiane.

Why is there no tourist related publication in Vientiane today?

Even expats who live in Phnom Penh today have many travel related
publications now.

What is up in Vientiane?

Is it really possible that there is no tourist related publication in
Vientiane even today?

It is surprising. Are there no Internet Cafes in Vientiane today?

Are there not thousands of foreign tourists passing throught Vientiane
today?

Why is there no tourism related web site based in Vientiane today?

This does seem to be a strange story. Updated are encouraged.

wrote:
Great pics! Phnom Pen seems to develop fast!

Thanks for showing.

wrote:
A good new write up about what is to be seen on the route between Laos
and Cambodia and vice versa is in this month's Phnom Penh based Bayon
Pearnik magazine. See their August of 2006 edition on

http://bayonpearnik.com/

A visa for Cambodia may now be available at the border crossing itself,
but to avoid the "scamsters" at this crossing, get a visa for Cambodia
before departing Vientiane. It takes only 24 hours and costs 20 dollars
exactly. There are no scams to be encountered at the Embassy of
Cambodia in Vientiane.

In the northbound direction, a visa for Laos must be in your passport
before heading for the Cambodia / Laos border. Get a visa for Laos at
the Embassy of Laos in Bangkok, or at the Embassy of Laos in Phnom
Penh. There is no Consulate of Laos in Siem Reap or Battambang or Stung
Treng.

BTW, a good new collection of pictures about the road between Pakse in
southern Laos and Stung Treng in northern Cambodia is on

http://board.gt-rider.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1503

An obvious question is about current developments in Vientiane.

Why is there no tourist related publication in Vientiane today?

Even expats who live in Phnom Penh today have many travel related
publications now.

What is up in Vientiane?

Is it really possible that there is no tourist related publication in
Vientiane even today?

It is surprising. Are there no Internet Cafes in Vientiane today?

Are there not thousands of foreign tourists passing throught Vientiane
today?

Why is there no tourism related web site based in Vientiane today?

This does seem to be a strange story. Updated are encouraged.

wrote:
Great pics! Phnom Pen seems to develop fast!

Thanks for showing.

wrote:
A good new write up about what is to be seen on the route between Laos
and Cambodia and vice versa is in this month's Phnom Penh based Bayon
Pearnik magazine. See their August of 2006 edition on

http://bayonpearnik.com/

A visa for Cambodia may now be available at the border crossing itself,
but to avoid the "scamsters" at this crossing, get a visa for Cambodia
before departing Vientiane. It takes only 24 hours and costs 20 dollars
exactly. There are no scams to be encountered at the Embassy of
Cambodia in Vientiane.

In the northbound direction, a visa for Laos must be in your passport
before heading for the Cambodia / Laos border. Get a visa for Laos at
the Embassy of Laos in Bangkok, or at the Embassy of Laos in Phnom
Penh. There is no Consulate of Laos in Siem Reap or Battambang or Stung
Treng.

the reason is obvious enough!

in the LPDR --- with the Lao People's Revolutionary Party in charge
as the "intellectual nucleus" --- STABILITY is to be had at ALL
COST.

Cambodia is in the WHEELING AND DEALING, unruly, but TRANSFORMING
stage...

it is by no means a free ticket to becoming a solid, thriving
and pluralistic society where communists, democrats, republicans,
socialists, ethnic Khmer democracy, etc.

but there IS NO ALTERNATIVE to achieving that solid, thriving
and pluralistic and openly competitive society: a society had
to go through political tumultuousness,,,, but if you build
into the CONSTITUTION a safeguard and a RESPECT so that ALL
POLITICIANS and CIVIC leaders alike uphold, NO MATTER who win or
lose a political contest, things WILL SETTLE DOWN, and a tradition
of RESPECT for winning-losing contests, where shoes and gum and
noodles may be thrown across congressional halls, but guns and
bullets are strictly prohibited, with a JUDICIARY NEUTRAL to
political factions,,,,,,,,,,,

this IS HOW a PLURALISTIC and DEMOCRATIC society is built.

the "alternative", of course, is like it is in LAOS, under the
CORRECT LEADRSHIP guidance, or in Vietnam or in China or in North
Korea,,,,, in which you have a SMALL group --- who are NOT
answerable in any way to the public --- in control and they
MAKE DECREES, in the name of peace, law and order, democracy,
love, and solidarity BUT THEY CONTROL with an iron fist,,,,,,,,

where ONE IDEOLOGY is "correct" and NOT challengable,,,,,,,, this is
the MOST ASSURED way to remain, as a society, in perpetual mediocrety,
stagnation, and paternalistic benevolence,,, like China has been
since BEFORE Shi Hung-di "united" the "middle kingdom" before ancient
Greece and Rome,,,,

Has China's model of governance since two thousand plus years
ago until TODAY --- which focuse almost exclusively on stability,
law and order, etc. with LITTLE TO NO LIBERAL REFORMS in politics,
in jurisprudence, in civic organizations ---- produced and, MORE
IMPORTANTLY, nurtured and sustained, the individual and group
initiative that TRANSFORM society AT LARGE, where one era you
have 99.5 of the populace being peasants to, another era, where no
more than 2 to 5 percent or so work the land?

No!

LAOS, under the CORRECT LEADERSHIP, emulates this MODEL of
governance of China and IT will keep LAOS in perpetual mediocrity
and stagnation, although, yes, her people will SEEM to be happy,
law abiding, etc. Look at hte NORTH KOREANS: they don't make
noises; they stand tall when Mr. Kim passes by,,, but they barely
survive,,,,,,

the three Asian societies that have basically caught up to the
Europeans are, of course, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan. These
didn't become European societies: they merely, LIKE EUROPEANS,
EMPLOY the most EFFICIENT methods of communication, business, trade,
commerce, transportation, political institutionalization, etc.

it is OBVIOUS why you don't see in Vientiane what you see what's
taking place in chaotic, wheeling-dealing Phnom Phenh


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