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"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ... Martin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:15:26 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Visit Maine - eat huge lobsters, go to Acadia National Park and when in EUROPE? Never been to Maine. We have great parks here in the Midwest, too. In Europe, there so many national specialties, I wouldn't know where to start. For me, really good bread is the starting point 8-). Germany! Surely you mean France. :-) They only make one really boring bread, in my experience. Good pastry, though. One really boring bread amongst a plethora of really excellent bread is good. Which one of the breads in France do you consider to be boring? The only one I was offered. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:22:19 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: "JohnT" wrote: "Erilar" wrote in message ... Martin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:15:26 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Visit Maine - eat huge lobsters, go to Acadia National Park and when in EUROPE? Never been to Maine. We have great parks here in the Midwest, too. In Europe, there so many national specialties, I wouldn't know where to start. For me, really good bread is the starting point 8-). Germany! Surely you mean France. :-) They only make one really boring bread, in my experience. Good pastry, though. One really boring bread amongst a plethora of really excellent bread is good. Which one of the breads in France do you consider to be boring? The only one I was offered. On that basis you could think that all French wine is rubbish too. I think that Erilar said some time ago that she doesn't drink wine. But if I am mistaken then you can get a 5 litre box of Almaden Sauvignon for about US $10 in some States. -- JohnT |
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"JohnT" wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:22:19 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: "JohnT" wrote: "Erilar" wrote in message ... Martin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:15:26 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Visit Maine - eat huge lobsters, go to Acadia National Park and when in EUROPE? Never been to Maine. We have great parks here in the Midwest, too. In Europe, there so many national specialties, I wouldn't know where to start. For me, really good bread is the starting point 8-). Germany! Surely you mean France. :-) They only make one really boring bread, in my experience. Good pastry, though. One really boring bread amongst a plethora of really excellent bread is good. Which one of the breads in France do you consider to be boring? The only one I was offered. On that basis you could think that all French wine is rubbish too. I think that Erilar said some time ago that she doesn't drink wine. But if I am mistaken then you can get a 5 litre box of Almaden Sauvignon for about US $10 in some States. Not drink wine? I drink only GOOD wine, which is sometimes French. I am allergic to beer-- probably the hops. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:22:19 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: "JohnT" wrote: "Erilar" wrote in message ... Martin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:15:26 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Visit Maine - eat huge lobsters, go to Acadia National Park and when in EUROPE? Never been to Maine. We have great parks here in the Midwest, too. In Europe, there so many national specialties, I wouldn't know where to start. For me, really good bread is the starting point 8-). Germany! Surely you mean France. :-) They only make one really boring bread, in my experience. Good pastry, though. One really boring bread amongst a plethora of really excellent bread is good. Which one of the breads in France do you consider to be boring? The only one I was offered. On that basis you could think that all French wine is rubbish too. On the contrary, I had some excellent wine there. They didn't keep serving the same one every time, as they did the "bread". -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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Am 17.06.2013 10:06, schrieb Martin:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Not drink wine? I drink only GOOD wine, which is sometimes French. I am allergic to beer-- probably the hops. Even real Rheinheit Verbot German beer? I'm allergic to chemical beer. I get nasty stomach pains from drinking even very small quantities Reinheits*ge*bot, i'm hoping! ;-) Your version sounds like there's no water from river Rhine allowed in german beer! ;-) Josef |
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Am 17.06.2013 11:32, schrieb Martin:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:08:23 +0200, Josef Kleber wrote: Am 17.06.2013 10:06, schrieb Martin: Even real Rheinheit Verbot German beer? I'm allergic to chemical beer. I get nasty stomach pains from drinking even very small quantities Reinheits*ge*bot, i'm hoping! ;-) Your version sounds like there's no water from river Rhine allowed in german beer! ;-) LOL thanks for correcting my awful German. Here's one to amuse you http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/reinheit.htm Does he believe that the DDR still exists or is it a very old website. It's only 23+ years! He's mostly talking about Reinheitsgebot is no matter of quality per se. That's quite visionary insight! ;-) Today, the Reinheitsgebot is more a handicap for german breweries. It limits the variety of beers they can offer. I thought that only we in Zuid Holland deliberately drank Rhine water. AFAIK, a lot of cities along the river "produce" most of their water of Rhine water. Some natural filtration through the river banks plus some german engineering afterwards. ;-) Josef |
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Am 17.06.2013 13:04, schrieb Martin:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:39:43 +0200, Josef Kleber wrote: Am 17.06.2013 11:32, schrieb Martin: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:08:23 +0200, Josef Kleber wrote: Am 17.06.2013 10:06, schrieb Martin: Even real Rheinheit Verbot German beer? I'm allergic to chemical beer. I get nasty stomach pains from drinking even very small quantities Reinheits*ge*bot, i'm hoping! ;-) Your version sounds like there's no water from river Rhine allowed in german beer! ;-) LOL thanks for correcting my awful German. Here's one to amuse you http://www.europeanbeerguide.net/reinheit.htm Does he believe that the DDR still exists or is it a very old website. It's only 23+ years! He's mostly talking about Reinheitsgebot is no matter of quality per se. Attempts to make my own beer demonstrated that too :-) Really? With one of these plastic bucket recipes? Here in my home area, there are still a few municipal breweries. Citizen with brew rights are able to use them for a fee to brew Zoigl. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoigl http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoigl - a bit more detailed These following the good old tradition sell *their* beer in their - i have to admit well prepared - private living rooms and in the garden. There are even Zoigl calendars indicating who is serving this day. http://www.oberpfaelzerwald.de/cms/f...earc h%3Dtrue Over the last years, there was quite an impessive revitalisation of the tradition with good marketing attracting tourists now. Even bigger breweries were jumping on the train. The attempt of a discounter (Norma) to sell Zoigl failed. Cheaply produced, low quality and paired with violation of tradition. Bavarians don't like that! ;-) Today, the Reinheitsgebot is more a handicap for german breweries. It limits the variety of beers they can offer. and claim it complies with Reinheitsgebot It's not just the claim. The claim itself is irrelevant, because the law got slaughtered by an european court. AFAIK and wikipedia seems to confirm, german breweries are only allowed to brew beer neglecting Reinheitsgebot for export. Or 'special' beers with administrative special authorisation, whatever that means. I thought that only we in Zuid Holland deliberately drank Rhine water. AFAIK, a lot of cities along the river "produce" most of their water of Rhine water. Some natural filtration through the river banks plus some german engineering afterwards. ;-) The Dutch take water from the Rhine and use the coastal dunes as a filter. It will be interesting to see what will happen, when all swiss glaciers will have gone. Almost half of Baden-Württemberg's population is supplied with water from Lake Constance. They have a huge pipeline network up to the most northern parts of the state. Rivers are lifelines in many ways. Josef |
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:02:39 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:22:19 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: "JohnT" wrote: "Erilar" wrote in message ... Martin wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:15:26 +0000 (UTC), Erilar wrote: Martin wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Visit Maine - eat huge lobsters, go to Acadia National Park and when in EUROPE? Never been to Maine. We have great parks here in the Midwest, too. In Europe, there so many national specialties, I wouldn't know where to start. For me, really good bread is the starting point 8-). Germany! Surely you mean France. :-) They only make one really boring bread, in my experience. Good pastry, though. One really boring bread amongst a plethora of really excellent bread is good. Which one of the breads in France do you consider to be boring? The only one I was offered. On that basis you could think that all French wine is rubbish too. On the contrary, I had some excellent wine there. They didn't keep serving the same one every time, as they did the "bread". Blame the tour you took not the French. I spent my very first night in Greece in an awful hotel where everybody else was on a package holiday with the food included. The food was near inedible and had little semblance to normal Greek food. Conversations with the other guests resembled talking to inmates of Colditz. I half expected there to be an escape committee. Actually, I've had excellent food on other Elderhostel trips I've taken. In other countries they included better bread. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad |
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Am 18.06.2013 00:01, schrieb Martin:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:23:20 +0200, Josef Kleber wrote: Here in my home area, there are still a few municipal breweries. Citizen with brew rights are able to use them for a fee to brew Zoigl. Are there still places in villages where you can get stuff distilled too? I'm not sure about 'Schnaps'. I know it's possible for juices. You bring your apples and get apple juice. But there are for sure people with so called 'Streuobstwiesen' (meadow with old fruit trees), who sell the fruits to these small distilleries. I don't know if it's possible to get your private "brand". EU forced Germany to give up its monopoly on pure alcohol and the subsidies for these small distilleries by 2017. So most of them will die, i assume. The last time i was involved in producing Schnaps was in school in practical chemistry! ;-) Josef |
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