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Old March 24th, 2013, 09:08 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

In article ,
Christine Cruiser wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:27:10 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their breakdowns.
With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their profit margins
must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into essential maintenance in
order to defray operational costs?


Do dogs bark? LOL


Does Kohlenberg regularly have to fight lawsuits against him? LOL
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Old March 31st, 2013, 09:07 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

On 3/18/2013 9:13 PM, Charles wrote:
In article ,
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Free cruise, heh? I've always wondered about those. Don't you have to pay
tax on that? Ordinary income? Taxed on the suggested retail price, not
heavily discounted price everyone else pays, right? How much do you figure
this free trip costs?


That would be if the cruise was won in a contest. A coworker won such a
contest and the cruise tax was based on brochure rate which meant he
ended up paying two thirds as much in taxes that he would have paid if
he had booked the cruise at the actual going fare. He came out a little
ahead. In Brian's case I think it is a gift. She can probably gift him
up to $11,000.


Carnival is picking up the entire tab because they've invited travel
agents and their guests on the cruise. I guess it's kind of a marketing
thing. The only thing we have to pay is excursions, and the usual on
board stuff.

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Old April 1st, 2013, 01:01 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

In article , Brian K
wrote:

On 3/18/2013 9:13 PM, Charles wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

Free cruise, heh? I've always wondered about those. Don't you have to pay
tax on that? Ordinary income? Taxed on the suggested retail price, not
heavily discounted price everyone else pays, right? How much do you figure
this free trip costs?


That would be if the cruise was won in a contest. A coworker won such a
contest and the cruise tax was based on brochure rate which meant he
ended up paying two thirds as much in taxes that he would have paid if
he had booked the cruise at the actual going fare. He came out a little
ahead. In Brian's case I think it is a gift. She can probably gift him
up to $11,000.


Carnival is picking up the entire tab because they've invited travel
agents and their guests on the cruise. I guess it's kind of a marketing
thing. The only thing we have to pay is excursions, and the usual on
board stuff.



In that case there would not be any taxes involved. Carnival won't be
sending a 1099 to the IRS. They are familiarizing sales agents with
their product.

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Old April 1st, 2013, 07:40 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their breakdowns.
With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their profit margins
must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into essential maintenance in
order to defray operational costs?


No.
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Old April 1st, 2013, 07:41 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Nooffa Subject
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

Ray Goldenberg wrote:

In article
,
Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their
breakdowns. With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their
profit margins must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into essential
maintenance in order to defray operational costs?


Why is this even in question?

Of course they are.

And the suckers keep on coming.


You are the sucker to believe that.
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Old April 1st, 2013, 07:42 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

Christine Cruiser wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:27:10 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their
breakdowns. With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their
profit margins must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into essential
maintenance in order to defray operational costs?


Do dogs bark? LOL


Does your mama?
  #18  
Old April 2nd, 2013, 02:18 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Orval Fairbairn
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

In article ,
Nooffa Subject wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their breakdowns.
With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their profit margins
must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into essential maintenance in
order to defray operational costs?


No.


I just read in the Wall Street Journal that they just upped their annual
maintenance budget from $400 million to $800 million, so the answer has
been "yes."
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 02:24 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Nooffa Subject
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Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
Nooffa Subject wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their
breakdowns. With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their
profit margins must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into
essential maintenance in order to defray operational costs?


No.


I just read in the Wall Street Journal that they just upped their
annual maintenance budget from $400 million to $800 million, so the
answer has been "yes."


No. It means they just spent $300 Million on rehabbing a ship, are
planning to do several others, and are assuming more of the maintenance
tasks on some of their port facilities to improve guest experiences.
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 04:11 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Orval Fairbairn
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Default Is Carnival Cutting Corners on Maintenance?

In article ,
Nooffa Subject wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
Nooffa Subject wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It seems that Carnival ships are making headlines with their
breakdowns. With the cruise industry so hungry for customers, their
profit margins must be pretty thin. Are they cutting into
essential maintenance in order to defray operational costs?


No.


I just read in the Wall Street Journal that they just upped their
annual maintenance budget from $400 million to $800 million, so the
answer has been "yes."


No. It means they just spent $300 Million on rehabbing a ship, are
planning to do several others, and are assuming more of the maintenance
tasks on some of their port facilities to improve guest experiences.


So they will just let the rest of the fleet deteriorate.
 




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