Time to stop flying?

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
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Mike.... wrote:

Following up to vid Horne, _the_ chancellor

Yes- and it can all be worked on, improved upon, and unlocked in the
right envirnoment for many people who otherwise would considfer
themselves not to have those skills.

that's a different thing altogether.

I said
work + poor aptitude = mediocre
work + good aptitude = success

I didnt say anything about people not knowing they had aptitude.

I'm rejecting your fuzzy notion of aptitude.

Are you saying
these prodigies who master the violin or maths at improbable ages are
doing
it just be work rate?

Not all concert violinists (or pianists for that matter) were child
prodigies,

I didnt say they were. I said did those who were do it just by work
effort.

Quite possibly.

and the ones that were generally came from backgrounds where
they were encouraged to play the instrument at a very early age. And
work on it!

would *any* child given the opportunity and doing the work do as well?

Many would.

clearly a child with an obvious learning difficulty or physical
imparement
would not. The same must be true of less obvious lack of ability by
degree.

This is quite obvious.

that I have happened upon a new brand of PCness?

What's PC about it?

I think it's rather un-PC in fact, the view I'm taking. That is, people
aren't lacking ability- but they often lack the other valuable assets
required- such as a penchant for hard work.

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(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Maybe not penchant for hard work, but a love of the music. Both my
daughters played the piano from a young age. The youngest loved it and the
older one was not inspired. Both could play well at a young age. The
younger one went on to get a couple of degrees in music. One in piano
performance. So she if she wanted she could be a concert pianist. She is
extremely good at it. But her primary degree is in Music Therapy and makes
a pretty decent living with that part of the education.

"Mike...." wrote in message
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Following up to Calif Bill

But they may be able to steer a large ship to a berth, and still be a
pilot.

or even be a whale
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"Mike....."(not "Mike")
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True.

"Mike...." wrote in message
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Following up to Calif Bill

that last thing is one thing I *have* found in MSFS, you cant see where
you
are going! (in appropriate aircraft)
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"Mike....."(not "Mike")
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Interesting in the loops and rolls, is you did not notice any increase in
G
force.

Of course not, where did I say it simulated G forces? I dont understand
why
so many people cant accept MSFS for what it is. It isnt a game, its a
simulation. It doesnt simulate physical forces. It isnt a pro simulator.
Why is that so hard to accept?

My statement was in a normal loop or roll in the real AT-6 you did not
notice a change in the G force. Pretty much stays 1 G for the complete
maneuver.

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:21:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"Mr. Travel" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Mr. Travel writes:


The FAA doesn't care what toys pilots when they are not getting OFFICIAL
FAA approved training.


The FAA doesn't fly the plane; the pilot does.

In the US, not without FAA approval.

Been a couple of cases where a plane was flown without FAA approval. Been a
few joyrides by people in stolen planes.

Your name isn't really San Quentin Bill is it?

Following up to Calif Bill

My statement was in a normal loop or roll in the real AT-6 you did not
notice a change in the G force. Pretty much stays 1 G for the complete
maneuver.

right, it was unrelated to MSFS,
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"John Kulp" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:21:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Mr. Travel" wrote in message
m...
Mxsmanic wrote:

Mr. Travel writes:


The FAA doesn't care what toys pilots when they are not getting
OFFICIAL
FAA approved training.


The FAA doesn't fly the plane; the pilot does.

In the US, not without FAA approval.

Been a couple of cases where a plane was flown without FAA approval. Been
a
few joyrides by people in stolen planes.

Your name isn't really San Quentin Bill is it?

Not me doing the airplane joyriding. Only car I use to steal was my older
brother's.