Hawaii 2010

Ray Goldenberg wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:42:26 -0600, BikeRider50
wrote:

But I can read English and what she said was "What I wanted to know,
which neither of you has answered is -- are there any other cruises in
or around or to Hawaii scheduled for the summer of 2010"?

Hi old friend,

I guess you missed this part of her post:

"I do know about the Pax Services Act as applied to Hawaii. I don't
care about extra days at sea. I would be OK with leaving from Mexico
or Canada."

I am sure you know the old PSA and it's affect on sailing from the US.
Have a wonderful evening and it was nice chatting with you again. :+)


Best regards,
Ray

I'm not your friend, old or otherwise and doubt I would want to be one.
I don't like people who skirt rules and hold themselves out to be better
then others of the same profession. I also don't like people who pretend
to be something that they are not as you do. Still, it was nice to see
that on a Saturday night, Valentines day you had nothing better to do
but to patiently scan incoming articles on this newsgroup to be able to
respond to same within 15 minutes of the post. Impressive in a very
lonely and sad sort of way.

Rosalie said she was looking for cruises that went to Hawaii, not
cruises specifically leaving from a "US" port. It was only your smug,
know it all attitude that implied such.It's that same smug know it all
attitude that feels the need to correct any other travel agent or non
travel agent poster that posts here for the slightest error or minutia
if only to get in one more post with your agency advertising in it. Just
as you will following this post and likely within 15 minutes, since it
appears you have nothing else to do with your time but post to the
message board.

As to Rosalies question, another Google search shows that Carnival has 2
cruises to Hawaii in 2010, 1 leaving from Ensenada (with most passengers
being bussed to Ensenada from San Diego) on April 11 and the other
leaving Hawaii and returning to Vancouver (Seattle) on April 23. So too
do HAL, Princess, Celebrity and Royal Caribbean.

Once again, I a non travel agent who doesn't make my living from selling
cruises like you do, found an answer to a message boards member in 30
seconds on Google. Yet you, a supposedly trained professional could not.
Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your expense. I'm glad I took my
wife out to a nice Valentines day dinner last night, but at least I'll
have a great story to tell her tonight. It's all about this travel agent
on a cruise newsgroup who holds himself out as a cruise expert and yet
couldn't manage to find something so simple as a cruise to Hawaii for
someone looking for one. That is a pretty pathetic excuse for a travel
agent if you ask me.

"Cruise Crazy" wrote in message
...
Rosalie posted;

I have also thought about Iceland, but
either the cruises are repositioning
type cruises during the school year
(like Sept 6th) or else on something
like SilverSea which didn't seem like a
cruise that most children would enjoy.
Although this one might - his mother
says he is an 80 year old man in an 11
year old body. He is verbal and travels
well.
---

There is a Princess cruise that goes to Iceland this summer. It is on
the Tahitian/ Ocean Princess. Leaves July from New York and returns on
another Northern Atlantic cruise out of Dover, England in August. I'm
not sure which one or if both stop at Iceland, but the itinerary is
unusual. Also don't know about 2010.

From what you say about your Grandson, I think he would like this trip.
The Princess ship is one they bought from Renn and I know you like those
ships.

~~DORIS~~



There is also the Crown Princess sailing on July 31 this summer that goes to
Iceland. It's a round trip from the UK, not a repo.

http://www.princess.com/pb/itinerary...finition_name=

--Tom

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:08:14 -0600, BikeRider50
wrote:


As to Rosalies question, another Google search shows that Carnival has 2
cruises to Hawaii in 2010, 1 leaving from Ensenada (with most passengers
being bussed to Ensenada from San Diego) on April 11 and the other
leaving Hawaii and returning to Vancouver (Seattle) on April 23. So too
do HAL, Princess, Celebrity and Royal Caribbean.
..

Hi Good Buddy,

Unfortunately in your haste you failed to see her question
specifically asking for a "summer" cruise for her grandson. April is
not usually considered summer. BTW, we had a wonderful Valentine's
dinner & celebration last night. I thank you for your concern. :+)

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
--

BikeRider50 wrote:

Ray Goldenberg wrote:

What I wanted to know, which neither of you has answered is -- are
there any other cruises in or around or to Hawaii scheduled for the
summer of 2010?

Hi Rosalie,

With a few exceptions the cruise lines do not sail from the US
mainland to Hawaii during the summer. I just did a quick check for
you and do not see any during this time period for the 2010 summer.
All cruise lines have not posted their summer 2010 schedules yet. As
I said it is rare that they do these sailings in the summer as they
have their ships in Alaska. I suggest that you ask your travel agent
to watch for one of these exceptions for you.

Best regards,
Ray

I'm not a travel agent, let alone a cruise specialist like Ray
Goldenberg claims to be, but a simple search of Google finds that NCL
has quite a few cruises which do Hawaii in 2010.

I meant OTHER THAN the Pride of America which is what I think you've
listed here. In the first post, I said that the Pride of America was
the only one I saw and was there anything else.

Jan 23, Oct 9, Nov 6
Jan 2, Jan 9, Jan 16, Jan 30, Feb 6, Feb 13, Feb 20, Feb 27, Mar 6, Mar
13, Mar 20, Mar 27, Apr 3, Apr 10, Apr 17, May 8, May 15, May 22, May
29, Jun 5, Jun 12, Jun 19, Jun 26, Jul 3, Jul 10, Jul 17, Jul 24, Jul
31, Aug 7, Aug 14, Aug 21, Aug 28, Sep 4, Sep 11, Sep 18, Sep 25, Oct 2,
Oct 16, Oct 23, Oct 30, Nov 13, Nov 20, Nov 27, Dec 4, Dec 11, Dec 18,
Dec 25

BikeRider50 wrote:

Ray Goldenberg wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:42:26 -0600, BikeRider50
wrote:

But I can read English and what she said was "What I wanted to know,
which neither of you has answered is -- are there any other cruises in
or around or to Hawaii scheduled for the summer of 2010"?

Hi old friend,

I guess you missed this part of her post:

"I do know about the Pax Services Act as applied to Hawaii. I don't
care about extra days at sea. I would be OK with leaving from Mexico
or Canada."
snip
I'm not your friend, old or otherwise and doubt I would want to be one.
I don't like people who skirt rules and hold themselves out to be better
then others of the same profession. I also don't like people who pretend
to be something that they are not as you do. Still, it was nice to see
that on a Saturday night, Valentines day you had nothing better to do
but to patiently scan incoming articles on this newsgroup to be able to
respond to same within 15 minutes of the post. Impressive in a very
lonely and sad sort of way.

Rosalie said she was looking for cruises that went to Hawaii, not
cruises specifically leaving from a "US" port. It was only your smug,
know it all attitude that implied such.It's that same smug know it all
attitude that feels the need to correct any other travel agent or non
travel agent poster that posts here for the slightest error or minutia
if only to get in one more post with your agency advertising in it. Just
as you will following this post and likely within 15 minutes, since it
appears you have nothing else to do with your time but post to the
message board.

As to Rosalies question, another Google search shows that Carnival has 2
cruises to Hawaii in 2010, 1 leaving from Ensenada (with most passengers
being bussed to Ensenada from San Diego) on April 11 and the other
leaving Hawaii and returning to Vancouver (Seattle) on April 23. So too
do HAL, Princess, Celebrity and Royal Caribbean.

OK - once again

I want to go between June 4th and August 15th - i.e. during summer
vacation. So the cruises you have mentioned will NOT do. I already
investigated and found only Pride of America doing that itinerary
during that time period. I wanted to know if there was anything else
that I had missed. Ray kept the actual question in mind and answered
that there was not anything else.

I don't really care whether they leave from San Diego or Seattle or
Vancouver or where (although I'd think a good bit before flying to
Australia) as long is the cruise was to (or from) Hawaii.

And for John - The question of boredom is one that I and the child's
mother can deal with. I went on a HAL transatlantic when I was that
age, and I was far from bored. My 13 year old daughter went on the
QE2 with my mom transatlantic and she WAS bored and thought it was
stuffy. But she's easily bored, and I'm not. So when she sent her
son traveling with me she provided him with a multitude of new
electronic toys which he used when waiting in airports. Airports and
airplanes are way more likely to be boring than a ship, even if the
ship is full of "stuffy old people" like your grandmother.

Once again, I a non travel agent who doesn't make my living from selling
cruises like you do, found an answer to a message boards member in 30

It's a good thing too - you didn't find the answer to the question
because you didn't keep in mind what the question was.

seconds on Google. Yet you, a supposedly trained professional could not.
Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your expense. I'm glad I took my
wife out to a nice Valentines day dinner last night, but at least I'll
have a great story to tell her tonight. It's all about this travel agent
on a cruise newsgroup who holds himself out as a cruise expert and yet
couldn't manage to find something so simple as a cruise to Hawaii for
someone looking for one. That is a pretty pathetic excuse for a travel
agent if you ask me.

Rosalie B.,

You would obviously know your own grandchild better than I would, and
likewise feel boredom would not be a problem, so that obviously opens more
options for a Hawaii cruise for you. However, it does seem that your most
pressing question really is, are there any other cruise lines, besides NCL,
who will do summer cruises around the islands NCL style? That answer is no!

NCL America, is the only American flagged cruise line, and hence has the
so-called home-port advantage. No other cruise line can do exactly what NCL
can do. However, as BikeRider50 pointed out, Carnival, Holland American,
Princess, Celebrity and Royal Caribbean, all offer Hawaii cruises as well,
but from the West Coast (and/or Ensenada or Vancouver) either one-way or
round-trip to/from the islands. They do not start and end in Honolulu as NCL
does.

Likewise, BikeRider50 was at least kind enough to list all the NCL "Pride of
America" dates, which is this particular case should be helpful. Even though
not every one of the other cruise lines have announced their full 2010
schedules yet, for the most part, and taking 2009 as an example, not one of
these other cruise lines will offer summer Hawaii cruises. I know that you
are looking Between June 4th and August 15th, but even a quick perusal on
the search engine on my own website, shows that these other cruise lines
sail Hawaii up to April, then picking up again in September.

Happy sailing...
John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:50:34 -0500, Rosalie B.
wrote:


My sister did a trip to Hawaii this past spring and she did the
islands on her own, but she was using mileage and that kind of thing.
They stayed in hotels and flew from island to island and rented a car
etc. I don't think I would want to do that, but I worry that we won't
really get the full experience on a ship's excursion. How good are
the excursions to volcanoes from a cruise ship in Hawaii? Which ones
would be best for us? Is there a better way to do it?

The first time we went to Hawaii, I asked our travel agent about
taking a cruise there. She recommended that we not do that and see the
islands on our own. We were very glad she did.

We have used mileage for the air travel to and from Hawaii.

There is so much to see that I can't possibly see doing it on
excursions.

We have been twice and are going back this fall. Going from island to
island isn't that difficult. There is also a ferry from Oahu to Maui
which we investigated but we decided on a different itinerary.

Between our first two trips we have spent nights on all of the islands
tourists can normally visit.

Brian wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:50:34 -0500, Rosalie B.
wrote:


My sister did a trip to Hawaii this past spring and she did the
islands on her own, but she was using mileage and that kind of thing.
They stayed in hotels and flew from island to island and rented a car
etc. I don't think I would want to do that, but I worry that we won't
really get the full experience on a ship's excursion. How good are
the excursions to volcanoes from a cruise ship in Hawaii? Which ones
would be best for us? Is there a better way to do it?

The first time we went to Hawaii, I asked our travel agent about
taking a cruise there. She recommended that we not do that and see the
islands on our own. We were very glad she did.

We have used mileage for the air travel to and from Hawaii.

I don't really have that many airline miles that I can use. When I
was working, my agency made me turn in my work related mileage to
them. I didn't get to keep them. My sister's husband traveled on
business so he has a lot of miles. My sister did a lot of research
and made a bunch of reservations. I can do the research and make the
reservations, but I still have the problem of having to deal with
stuff on my own which my husband usually does when I travel with him.

He's not going BTW - he refuses to travel anymore.

There is so much to see that I can't possibly see doing it on
excursions.

We have been twice and are going back this fall. Going from island to
island isn't that difficult. There is also a ferry from Oahu to Maui
which we investigated but we decided on a different itinerary.

The problem I have is not really with getting from island to island.
It is the packing and unpacking and schlepping the luggage and
figuring out where to take the kid to eat and most important - I don't
like to drive myself around because I want to take photos of things,
and it's really not safe for me to drive AND take pictures while I'm
doing it. Normally on a ship excursion I take about 300 pictures. I
think it would be difficult to do that if I was driving myself.

Also I tend to get lost.

IMHO, it is better to see some of what there is and be comfortable
doing it rather than try to see it all and get stressed or injured
trying.


Between our first two trips we have spent nights on all of the islands
tourists can normally visit.

My mother was younger than I am when she started taking her
grandchildren on trips, and also she was in better physical shape than
I am. She was only 65 when she took my oldest child to Australia, and
she went with a group. She was traveling into her 90s - she went to
England when she was 91. But by then she went with a companion who
could handle the luggage and the driving etc. (They wouldn't rent her
a car anymore anyway)

I have to weigh what I want to see against whether I'm going to be
able to manage to actually do it. I prioritize. I know I will not be
able to see everything. I ration my energy so that I can do the
things that are most important to me. For instance when we went to
Tikal, I did not climb any of the pyramids. When I went on a tour in
Trujillo I did go with the guide up to the temple site, and that was a
mistake. I thought I wasn't going to make it and that they were going
to have to roll me back down to the bus. I'm not going to be able to
hike to the top of a volcano to see the sunrise. If I really want to
do that, I'm going to have to figure out another way to do it.

My mother's trip with my third child had a layover in Hawaii (on the
way to China) and they saw the Arizona memorial. I don't think they
saw much else
..

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:01:14 -0500, Rosalie B.
wrote:

IMHO, it is better to see some of what there is and be comfortable
doing it rather than try to see it all and get stressed or injured
trying.

I agree, but apparently lots of people don't. I have a friend who
says he wouldn't go to Paris for less than two weeks - there's so much
to see and do, he wouldn't be happy with only one week. Seems silly
to me - one week in Paris is better than no weeks in Paris - but
that's the way he thinks.

I'm not going to be able to
hike to the top of a volcano to see the sunrise. If I really want to
do that, I'm going to have to figure out another way to do it.

The Haleakala trip is mostly on a bus - not much hiking involved. The
NCL tour says "not recommended for guests with respiratory or heart
problems", and the pickup is very early - perhaps 3 or 4 am. I
haven't been on that trip - I don't get up at 4 am when I'm on
vacation. There's another NCL tour that's not at sunrise, and it's
wheelchair accessible (and also not recommended for guests with
respiratory or heart problems, probably because of the altitude).

I'd look into the Iceland cruises, though - you probably won't see
molten lava (though you might) but you'll see much more in the way of
bubbling mud baths, the original Geyser, etc. And now's the time to
see Greenland, before all the ice melts.

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
Brian wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:50:34 -0500, Rosalie B.
wrote:


My sister did a trip to Hawaii this past spring and she did the
islands on her own, but she was using mileage and that kind of thing.
They stayed in hotels and flew from island to island and rented a car
etc. I don't think I would want to do that, but I worry that we won't
really get the full experience on a ship's excursion. How good are
the excursions to volcanoes from a cruise ship in Hawaii? Which ones
would be best for us? Is there a better way to do it?

The first time we went to Hawaii, I asked our travel agent about
taking a cruise there. She recommended that we not do that and see the
islands on our own. We were very glad she did.

We have used mileage for the air travel to and from Hawaii.

I don't really have that many airline miles that I can use. When I
was working, my agency made me turn in my work related mileage to
them. I didn't get to keep them. My sister's husband traveled on
business so he has a lot of miles. My sister did a lot of research
and made a bunch of reservations. I can do the research and make the
reservations, but I still have the problem of having to deal with
stuff on my own which my husband usually does when I travel with him.

He's not going BTW - he refuses to travel anymore.

There is so much to see that I can't possibly see doing it on
excursions.

We have been twice and are going back this fall. Going from island to
island isn't that difficult. There is also a ferry from Oahu to Maui
which we investigated but we decided on a different itinerary.

The problem I have is not really with getting from island to island.
It is the packing and unpacking and schlepping the luggage and
figuring out where to take the kid to eat and most important - I don't
like to drive myself around because I want to take photos of things,
and it's really not safe for me to drive AND take pictures while I'm
doing it. Normally on a ship excursion I take about 300 pictures. I
think it would be difficult to do that if I was driving myself.

Also I tend to get lost.

IMHO, it is better to see some of what there is and be comfortable
doing it rather than try to see it all and get stressed or injured
trying.


Between our first two trips we have spent nights on all of the islands
tourists can normally visit.

My mother was younger than I am when she started taking her
grandchildren on trips, and also she was in better physical shape than
I am. She was only 65 when she took my oldest child to Australia, and
she went with a group. She was traveling into her 90s - she went to
England when she was 91. But by then she went with a companion who
could handle the luggage and the driving etc. (They wouldn't rent her
a car anymore anyway)

I have to weigh what I want to see against whether I'm going to be
able to manage to actually do it. I prioritize. I know I will not be
able to see everything. I ration my energy so that I can do the
things that are most important to me. For instance when we went to
Tikal, I did not climb any of the pyramids. When I went on a tour in
Trujillo I did go with the guide up to the temple site, and that was a
mistake. I thought I wasn't going to make it and that they were going
to have to roll me back down to the bus. I'm not going to be able to
hike to the top of a volcano to see the sunrise. If I really want to
do that, I'm going to have to figure out another way to do it.

My mother's trip with my third child had a layover in Hawaii (on the
way to China) and they saw the Arizona memorial. I don't think they
saw much else
.

Rosalie, it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I parked beside several
volcano fields and walked out into the smoke with no climbing needed.
Others can speak to this, and also, driving a rental car is easy enough. I
don't recall any difficulties pulling over or parking to snap the camera. I
sure have a lot of snapshots. At each island, I had a rental waiting by the
dock. Do recent travelers know if this is still the case? I hope this
trip works out for you. Planning is a large part of the fun.

Harry Cooper