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  #11  
Old November 15th, 2004, 05:37 AM
Alan
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:25:11 +1300, "Elizabeth"
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What a lot of arrogant bs!

You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays. As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


Hi Elizabeth

I'm glad I waited. You said it so much more diplomatically than I would
have :-)


Cheers, Alan
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Old November 15th, 2004, 05:37 AM
Alan
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:25:11 +1300, "Elizabeth"
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What a lot of arrogant bs!

You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays. As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


Hi Elizabeth

I'm glad I waited. You said it so much more diplomatically than I would
have :-)


Cheers, Alan
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Old November 15th, 2004, 05:39 AM
Darren G
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Charles Eggen wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:28:46 +1000, windsor wrote:

Why do European and American travellers feel it necessary to visit both
Australia and NZ? As if Australia&NZ is one country.

I think people look at a map and see an opportunity to tick off another
country on their list of places they have been.

If you have always dreamed of visiting Australia, why not spend the
extra time and money there instead of going to NZ as well? Australia is
a huge country with much to see.

I'm not against going to NZ at all... but I wonder how many visitors
have really haboured a real desire to go there. Ask yourself... would
you go to NZ if you weren't going to Australia? Only if the answer is
"yes" should you go to NZ. Otherwise it will just be a stupid, shallow
appendage to your trip.


I have spent a total of 8 weeks visiting New Zealand and have yet to
spend a day in Australia. I could spend another 8 weeks in NZ, with
little duplication of places visited, and still not feel it necessary
to spend time in Australia. I prefer New Zealand, but I also do not
care to take trips that are little more than "bragging" visits (Oh,
yes I passed through there in '99). I prefer to get to know a place a
bit and spend time meeting people, walking around and taking it easy.
Australia is a very large place that I feel would take up to a year to
fully experience properly. I also prefer green to brown, mountains
instead of hills, not having to worry about snakes and a cooler
climate. Frankly, although I have had pleasant enough short visits
with Australians, I prefer the company of New Zealanders. Different
Strokes, etc.

Charles
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Charles

Wow! Um, I think you should check out Australia. We have more green,
more mountains (green or brown), a cool climate in the southern areas,
and personally I dont worry about snakes all that much (although Crocs
and sharks do bother me a bit). As if that wasn't good enough, we
probably have more New Zealanders than they have in New Zealand -
you'd love it!

Darren G
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Old November 15th, 2004, 07:46 AM
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Thank you Alan... (a bad day at work helps me to express myself).

Elizabeth

"Alan" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:25:11 +1300, "Elizabeth"
wrote:


What a lot of arrogant bs!

You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays.

As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


Hi Elizabeth

I'm glad I waited. You said it so much more diplomatically than I would
have :-)


Cheers, Alan
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Old November 15th, 2004, 10:24 AM
windsor
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As soon as I saw that it was you responding, I chose to ignore the post.
I'm sure it just your usual bot-like ****.

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Old November 15th, 2004, 10:29 AM
windsor
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You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays. As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


If you mention the name Australia to a Euro or American person, they can
probably mention 10 images it evokes. The Opera house, Ayers Rock etc.
Even if they are just stereotypical images of Australia, at least it's
something.

Until Lord of the Rings, the average person in EU or America would not
have a single image of New Zealand. Not one. ZERO.

The desire to visit NZ is not strong within the hearts of most visitors
to this region. But Australia is Australia - it's very name evokes imagery.

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Old November 15th, 2004, 10:29 AM
windsor
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You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays. As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


If you mention the name Australia to a Euro or American person, they can
probably mention 10 images it evokes. The Opera house, Ayers Rock etc.
Even if they are just stereotypical images of Australia, at least it's
something.

Until Lord of the Rings, the average person in EU or America would not
have a single image of New Zealand. Not one. ZERO.

The desire to visit NZ is not strong within the hearts of most visitors
to this region. But Australia is Australia - it's very name evokes imagery.

  #18  
Old November 15th, 2004, 08:49 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"windsor" wrote in message
u...
You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays.
As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


If you mention the name Australia to a Euro or American person, they can
probably mention 10 images it evokes. The Opera house, Ayers Rock etc.
Even if they are just stereotypical images of Australia, at least it's
something.

Until Lord of the Rings, the average person in EU or America would not
have a single image of New Zealand. Not one. ZERO.


As a european I beg to differ.

The all blacks in full cry and a Maori Haka both spring
to mind.

Keith


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Old November 15th, 2004, 08:49 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"windsor" wrote in message
u...
You dare to say what people should or should not do on their holidays.
As
for "shallow experiences". Not everyone desires to know a country in
"depth" . And it's fairly obvious why people like to see both countries
just as it's common knowledge that travellers do NOT always visit both.


If you mention the name Australia to a Euro or American person, they can
probably mention 10 images it evokes. The Opera house, Ayers Rock etc.
Even if they are just stereotypical images of Australia, at least it's
something.

Until Lord of the Rings, the average person in EU or America would not
have a single image of New Zealand. Not one. ZERO.


As a european I beg to differ.

The all blacks in full cry and a Maori Haka both spring
to mind.

Keith


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Old November 17th, 2004, 02:18 AM
Dave Proctor
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:49:17 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
wrote:

Until Lord of the Rings, the average person in EU or America would not
have a single image of New Zealand. Not one. ZERO.


As a european I beg to differ.

The all blacks in full cry and a Maori Haka both spring
to mind.


A Septic would probably ask what happened to the Old Zealand and why
they had to replace it.

Dave

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