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Elder-unfriendly Philippine Airlines
Greetings!
I am Rodolfo D. Aniceto (72 years old) from Pampanga. I am related to his Most Rev. Paciano B. Aniceto, DD. We are holding GUM/MNL/GUM ticket. Ako po ay na off load last 28 July 2007 from Manila. My wife and I traveled together. She is a handicap passenger and on wheelchair with catheter. She underwent cataract surgery two weeks back. My It's about experience started when I check-in at 730pm for GUM and your staff NING said that I cannot be boarded because I hold a non- revenue ticket as they are only accepting revenue passengers without any other reason but that. I told her what PAL Guam office told me that I will not encounter any problem and my booking was ok and confirmed with seat assignments but she would not hear me as she said they do not honor anything from Guam. I even have it my booking reconfirmed. I asked for her complete name but she refused to answer me. She just told me that I cannot be boarded that's all. She was affront rude and disrespectful. She asked me to get out of the line and wait if I want. She can check-in my incapacitated wife can be boarded without any problem. Why is your staff overly rude and disrespectful? We waited until the closure of the counter for Guam. Unfortunately, we were not taken in for consideration and compassion. We were not minded at all. The porter brought us to counter 13 for the reschedule for the following day. They gave us a gift of rebooking NUF free. Was it my problem to get into this dilemma? Your staff at counter 13 shouted and told me that her transaction will be long and we cannot wait for her. It was good thing that the guy occupying counter 11 observed what has happened and called us to assist and help. He gave us sorry head shake when I said I was off-loaded for no valid explanation except that I am a non-revenue ticket holder. That was already 10pm. We did not have our dinner and my pitiful wife was so stressed out and hungry. My problem was where the hell will we stay and rest until your 10:20pm flight for the following day? Throbbing pain and anger ang feeling ko for the inconsideration you gave my wife and me. We finally ate at 2am. I did not ask and begged for the ticket. I won the promo and in our excitement we decided to buy another for my wife and what a presumably happy homecoming experience turned out be a miserable incident. Had I known that I will be overly bothered using the ticket they awarded me - I will refuse the free travel outright. We do not deserve your appalling treatment. The following day your customer relations officers (duty officer should be helping pax like me at 6am)but was never available. Only the guards were there. Where are they? The Guards are your customer relations officers as they feed and keep giving me numbers to call (879-5698/5916/5918/5917/5920/8558000) that are neither working or a fax phone or just ringing. Finally at 930am, someone answered and handed it to a certain Rene Reyes, who talked to me and said that I cannot be boarded as the flight was over booked and my priority is PD8 meaning that my ticket is bookable but can be off loaded anytime without any notice. If I want to be boarded I need to change my priority code to N with the VP and that will be very hard, she said. And will still wait til Monday. I was also advise that my wife was off-loaded due to an immigration problem and the counter people were the only ones who knew about it. How can that be possible, we never had the chance to reach the Immigration due to my outright bumped off. She was not off-loaded in the first place. She is incapacitated and will need someone to assist her to go the Immigration. Why all these problems cropped up and presumed when it was just a plain classic case of an unexplained off-loading a promo winner of a non-rev ticket? Very good Advertisement. FYI, we are green card holders and her passport expires in 2011 and our documents are inorder. We are poor elderly passengers but we are not beggars to be push around the way you did to my wife and me. This is a pitiful and deplorable experience for someone who housed and accommodated your staff out of kindness for months (Agnes Buenaventura and another male person from your PAL Sales office in Manila) from an unknown environment years ago when they were assigned in Guam without any compensation. Why is respect for elders out-dated and obsolete? Are your staff foreign to compassion and consideration? Are these the kind of high-tech training they get now? The slogan "It's about experience" that you are very proud to claim was made sure was done to us. Mine will be My Pal's Pathetic Experience (MYPalPAc EX). I know you will do nothing about my My Pal's Pathetic Experience. Now I know that your airline represents mga PINOY na mayabang at bastos and your airline is elder-unfriendly. You made us feel that we are nothing. That you do not need our business. Ayaw ninyo ng bother na walang monetary na kapalit. You all do not believe in respect and sincerity. Kaya nga "It's about experience". Good or bad it's still about experience. Bastos kayo! Wala kayong respect. You have no regard for the elderly. May you experience the extreme thoughtlessness and insensitivity you provided my wife. CAPITAL BASTOS kayo MGA TAGA PHILIPPINE AIRLINES. I REFUSE TO BE A FILIPINO KUNG KASAMA KO KAYO MGA TAGA PHILIPPINE AIRLINES. NAKAKAHIYA KAYO! I will refuse PAL TICKET UNTIL I die. Thank you and GOD Bless! Rodolfo D. Aniceto I am listed in Guam directory. Promo Winner / Whiner |
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Thank you for sparing your time.
I have sent a lot of messages to PAL executives in Manila and with their GSA here in Guam. Let me share with you their emails that are far and between for just an explanation on my case 1) date Aug 1, 2007 8:38 AM subject Fwd: Aniceto/Rodolfo PAL Record / BM63P2 GUM/MNL/GUM mailed-by pal.com.ph Dear Mr. Aniceto, We apologize for the incident . Our Customer Relations Office is now investigating this matter. Please expect their further communication. Again our apologies, Gigi D. Mediarito WEBSITE MANAGEMENT Corporate E-Business Department Philippine Airlines http://www.philippineairlines.com 2) On 8/1/07, wrote: First of all, allow us to thank you for sharing with us and bringing to our attention the ordeal of our passenger, Mr. Rodolfo Aniceto. We sincerely apologize to what transpired during his trip back to Guam. I have endorsed your email to our Customer Relations, Manila Airport Services and Office of the President of Philippine Airlines. We will certainly look into this matter and secure the handling details of this case. Our apology to Mr. Aniceto. Very truly yours, POCHOLO M. AZUCENA Manager GSA Relations and Charter Services Philippine Airlines 7th Floor, PAL Center, Legazpi Street Legaspi Village, Makati City, Philippines Phone: (632) 818 7193 Fax : (632) 893 2216 3) from " date Aug 3, 2007 3:45 PM subject Fw: Aniceto/Rodolfo R/BM63P2 GUM/MNL/ GUM mailed-by pal.com.ph Dear Mr. Aniceto, As promised in our acknowledgement email sent last July 31st, we shall correspond with you again the soonest we receive all the handling reports from the offices concerned. Thank you for your further patience. Sincerely, SARAH MA. SARAH S. REYES Customer Management Officer Customer Relations Tel. no: (632) 8172844 Fax no: (632) 8943930 It's been a week but all I get was sorry and further patience. WHY IS PAL TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER ME? They are most likely trying to lose/mislay all pertinent records about my complain. The next we knew the records were all washed out by the computer and have forgetten all about it. And nothing more is heard from PAL. What are they are covering and washing out? Or was there ever an investigation being done in first place? Was there ever a looking out and securing of the handling details being made? Mother of the maybes was the staff relative to the owners or politicians or high people? Or may I ask what I am expecting? A poor old man should not anticipate anything from the Giants. Their staff shoo the old dogs and that's it. PAL THINKS THAT no matter what clarification you need if you are poor and nobody you will never get anything practically NOTHING! I need explanation on the terrible dilemma we went through. Winning a PAL Ticket back home is such a joy but had left us dreadful memories hard to forget. We have earned respect in our lives somehow. Respect is our pride how can we pride ourselves now? WHY MUST THIS BE DONE TO US IN OUR RIPEN YEARS? Had I know this will happen... I should have thrown my award PAL ticket or could have donated it to the dogs instead. I should have considered Hawaii for my wife cataract surgery than my country. I could have refrain and have spared us from this bad experience. I could have not subjected my wife with that miserable and depressing experience. Or I should have taken Continental Airlines. Maybe until now I have high regards for my country's airline. |
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On Aug 6, 8:27 am, mrtravel wrote:
wrote: It's been a week but all I get was sorry and further patient. WHY IS PAL TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER ME? You really need to RELAX When they denied you boarding due to the oversell, did they compensate you? You seem to think someone has singled you out. This is untrue. Airlines overbook in order to fly as full as possible. When more people show up than there are seats available, the airline becomes oversold. Usually enough people don't show up or accept voluntary denied boarding compensation. Sometimes, this doesn't free up enough seats. This means that they now have to deny boarding to someone. Airlines have an order of priority for who gets denied. Unfortunately, since you were on a non-rev ticket, you were selected. Having been selected, you would normally be given compensation, as long as you met the conditions required for check-in. Overbooking is an efficient way of filling as many seats as possible. I suspect the rudeness you feel you received was mainly you feeling that you were entitled to be boarded, and at some point being agressive enough in your demands that you encountered some firmness from employees. You took it personal, when there really was nothing personal about it. Thank you for sparing your time. I am asking anything but an explanation for my denied boarding. We were never compensated for being off-loaded. I am a promo winner of PAL in Guam last March 2007. We made sure everything will be ok and PAL assured us. So how can they deny me? Secondly, I traveled with my wife. She is a handicap passenger and on wheelchair with catheter. She underwent cataract surgery two weeks back. PAL staff outright rude said she is denying my boarding without any explanation. I checked in at 730pm for their 1020pm flight They have subjected us to a very difficult situation hard to comprehend. Please tell in my your heart the kind of reaction I should feel and act. |
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wrote in message ps.com... It's been a week but all I get was sorry and further patient. WHY IS PAL TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER ME? Let's try it really slowly, so that perhaps it will sink in..... Thank you for sparing your time. I am asking anything but an explanation for my denied boarding. We were never compensated for being off-loaded. I am a promo winner of PAL in Guam last March 2007. Yours was an "Award Ticket", a "Promo" as you put it which cost you nothing, and gave you a lower priority than the paying pax. Nothing in life is free, and when it seems to be, things may change not always for the better. PAL (as is routine among ALL airlines), oversold the flight, confident that "x" number of pax would not show up. Everybody showed up. Your "free" ticket made you the first to get "bumped". We made sure everything will be ok and PAL assured us. So how can they deny me? Look on the old Spanish nautical charts of the region. The Philipines are named, often in big curlicued letter, the Islas de Ladrones, the Isles of Thieves. Along with baluts and adobo, the natives have only modest moral compunctions, having had to live so long under the heel of foreign rulers. Independene has not improved their habits. Why, sailors will tell you that whether in Cavite or Olongapo, someone's was always getting f*cked. This was your day in the barrel. Secondly, I traveled with my wife. She is a handicap passenger and on wheelchair with catheter. She underwent cataract surgery two weeks back. PAL didn't deny your wife's boarding (although given her condition, she likely should not have been flying that soon). They would have apparently let her fly (on a ticket upon which a "fare" has been paid). PAL staff outright rude said she is denying my boarding without any explanation. My God, how fortunate you were that it wasn't United or USAir. Their staff would have probably beaten you soundly, then called the police to haul you away in irons. ;-P I checked in at 730pm for their 1020pm flight The time of check in didn't matter, given the type ticket you were holding They have subjected us to a very difficult situation hard to comprehend. Please tell in my your heart the kind of reaction I should feel and act. Well, having been in the Philippines, I'll tell you that a "week" is far too soon to worry. Filipinos are charter members of the "Manana" club, a fraternity of many former Spanish dependencies/colonies. I wouldn't expect much in the way of compensation, but you'll likely receive a written apology, and maybe a six pack of San Miguel and a free pass on somebody's cousin's jitney. Que lastima! TMO |
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On Aug 6, 11:30 pm, "TMOliver" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... It's been a week but all I get was sorry and further patient. WHY IS PAL TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER ME? Let's try it really slowly, so that perhaps it will sink in..... Thank you for sparing your time. I am asking anything but an explanation for my denied boarding. We were never compensated for being off-loaded. I am a promo winner of PAL in Guam last March 2007. Yours was an "Award Ticket", a "Promo" as you put it which cost you nothing, and gave you a lower priority than the paying pax. Nothing in life is free, and when it seems to be, things may change not always for the better. PAL (as is routine among ALL airlines), oversold the flight, confident that "x" number of pax would not show up. Everybody showed up. Your "free" ticket made you the first to get "bumped". We made sure everything will be ok and PAL assured us. So how can they deny me? Look on the old Spanish nautical charts of the region. The Philipines are named, often in big curlicued letter, the Islas de Ladrones, the Isles of Thieves. Along with baluts and adobo, the natives have only modest moral compunctions, having had to live so long under the heel of foreign rulers. Independene has not improved their habits. Why, sailors will tell you that whether in Cavite or Olongapo, someone's was always getting f*cked. This was your day in the barrel. Secondly, I traveled with my wife. She is a handicap passenger and on wheelchair with catheter. She underwent cataract surgery two weeks back. PAL didn't deny your wife's boarding (although given her condition, she likely should not have been flying that soon). They would have apparently let her fly (on a ticket upon which a "fare" has been paid). PAL staff outright rude said she is denying my boarding without any explanation. My God, how fortunate you were that it wasn't United or USAir. Their staff would have probably beaten you soundly, then called the police to haul you away in irons. ;-P I checked in at 730pm for their 1020pm flight The time of check in didn't matter, given the type ticket you were holding They have subjected us to a very difficult situation hard to comprehend. Please tell in my your heart the kind of reaction I should feel and act. Well, having been in the Philippines, I'll tell you that a "week" is far too soon to worry. Filipinos are charter members of the "Manana" club, a fraternity of many former Spanish dependencies/colonies. I wouldn't expect much in the way of compensation, but you'll likely receive a written apology, and maybe a six pack of San Miguel and a free pass on somebody's cousin's jitney. Que lastima! TMO Thanks for sparing your time. I wanted fast explanation from PAL I won the ticket at the Micronesia Mall. I made sure before I bought my wife's that we will not have any problem and we were assured. I hope you will understand my predicament. Thank you ans GOD Bless! |
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On 9 Aug, 04:13, Banty wrote:
In article .com, says... On Aug 6, 11:30 pm, "TMOliver" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... It's been a week but all I get was sorry and further patient. WHY IS PAL TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER ME? Let's try it really slowly, so that perhaps it will sink in..... Thank you for sparing your time. I am asking anything but an explanation for my denied boarding. We were never compensated for being off-loaded. I am a promo winner of PAL in Guam last March 2007. Yours was an "Award Ticket", a "Promo" as you put it which cost you nothing, and gave you a lower priority than the paying pax. Nothing in life is free, and when it seems to be, things may change not always for the better. PAL (as is routine among ALL airlines), oversold the flight, confident that "x" number of pax would not show up. Everybody showed up. Your "free" ticket made you the first to get "bumped". We made sure everything will be ok and PAL assured us. So how can they deny me? Look on the old Spanish nautical charts of the region. The Philipines are named, often in big curlicued letter, the Islas de Ladrones, the Isles of Thieves. Along with baluts and adobo, the natives have only modest moral compunctions, having had to live so long under the heel of foreign rulers. Independene has not improved their habits. Why, sailors will tell you that whether in Cavite or Olongapo, someone's was always getting f*cked. This was your day in the barrel. Secondly, I traveled with my wife. She is a handicap passenger and on wheelchair with catheter. She underwent cataract surgery two weeks back. PAL didn't deny your wife's boarding (although given her condition, she likely should not have been flying that soon). They would have apparently let her fly (on a ticket upon which a "fare" has been paid). PAL staff outright rude said she is denying my boarding without any explanation. My God, how fortunate you were that it wasn't United or USAir. Their staff would have probably beaten you soundly, then called the police to haul you away in irons. ;-P I checked in at 730pm for their 1020pm flight The time of check in didn't matter, given the type ticket you were holding They have subjected us to a very difficult situation hard to comprehend. Please tell in my your heart the kind of reaction I should feel and act. Well, having been in the Philippines, I'll tell you that a "week" is far too soon to worry. Filipinos are charter members of the "Manana" club, a fraternity of many former Spanish dependencies/colonies. I wouldn't expect much in the way of compensation, but you'll likely receive a written apology, and maybe a six pack of San Miguel and a free pass on somebody's cousin's jitney. Que lastima! TMO Thanks for sparing your time. I wanted fast explanation from PAL I won the ticket at the Micronesia Mall. I made sure before I bought my wife's that we will not have any problem and we were assured. I hope you will understand my predicament. Thank you ans GOD Bless! Was there a date limitation on the ticket? Did you have to use it when you did? Banty Greetings! Thank you for sparing your time. I am sure there was limitations but I have no changes in anything. I have done what I have requested PAL in the first place. Had I known that I will encounter such dilemma with PAL we would have never consider of claiming it. I have used Continental Airlines all the time. Regrets are always at the end of all decisions. Thank you and GOD Bless! |
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