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Seasickness question
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:55:04 -0500, Thumper
wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:02:55 -0500, MAS wrote: On 3/13/2010 10:57 AM, Thumper wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:54:54 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:45:22 -0500, (Joyce) wrote: As for the ginger...I love crystalized ginger...can eat a lb. at a time but can no longer have it because I am on coumadin, plavix and aspirin for a-fib and stent. That's a real bummer for me but know that ginger, liver and all leafy greens can cause blood to get too thin...... I take Plavix and aspirin and my mother takes coumadin. Her food requirements are much stricter than mine. I'm not familiar with someone taking all three drugs at once. Wow, I didn't think that most doctors want you to take Aspirin and Coumadin together. Thumper He's not taking aspirin and Coumadin. He's taking Plavix and aspirin, which is not uncommon. There are also situations where you can be taking aspirin and Coumadin. I was reading the post that you responded to by mistake. Thumper I was going to respond and say that I don't but someone else did it first. This has gone pretty far afield but there was an article yesterday that said 2-14% (pretty big range) of people can't utilize Plavix because of an enzyme deficiency. |
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Seasickness question
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:52:21 -0800, "Marcia R."
wrote: That's kind of how I feel now. My beloved is so relieved we are going to have the wrist bands and ginger for him, they're already working as far as I'm concerned. Marcia I think ginger may actually help but there was an interesting Ziggy today. The pharmacist asked him, "We're out of the regular stuff. Will placebo generics be OK?" |
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Seasickness question
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:11:42 -0500, Tom K
wrote: Ships behave very differently from small boats. The majority of movement in small boats is up and down from front to back. The majority of movement in large cruise ships is side-to-side rolling. It can actually be somewhat relaxing, especially while in bed. But when it gets bad because of strong winds... it can become somewhat uncomfortable. Particularly INSIDE. The reason? Simple. When a person walks or even runs, you follow a similar motion with your steps (side to side). But your eyes tell your brain that the motion your inner ear is experiencing is not a problem, and your brain compensates. On a ship, if you can see the ship move in relation to the horizon, your brain can (it MAY not always, but it can) compensate. However, inside you lose that ability to judge the motion against a stable background. Your eyes and brain can't correct for the motion. That's why seasickness is usually worse inside, even in jet planes where you can't compensate. If he, or even you, find you need a Bonine, I'd suggest trying to take it in the evening, just before bed. Why? Simple. It's a once a day tablet. The dose indicates 1 or 2 tablets. I've never needed more than 1 except once, sailing through a Nor-Easter storm in the Atlantic. Then I needed a second one. But they can make you a bit groggy. Just like Benedryl or any antihistamine. That's why it's best to take it at night. Peak (highest) blood levels occur shortly after you take a drug. By the next dose (next evening), your blood levels have declined to the point of needing another dose. So think of blood level as a saw tooth pattern. If your peak levels are at night, you'll be sleeping anyway. By the next morning, blood levels will already be declining, and with the ability to see the horizon or even be in port, you won't need a high level of drug in your blood stream. And you won't be groggy. The next good news... your ship will sail toward the evening. So if he's uncomfortable, you can take it later that evening. So the timing kind of fits the "take it in the evening" pattern. --Tom We were on a ship at dinner when it was leaving port. All of a sudden the ship started rolling to the side to the point that the dishes started sliding down the table and there were a lot of crashing dishes. We were told that a boat crossed suddenly in front of our ship and our ship had to suddenly maneuver away from it. |
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Seasickness question
Brian wrote:
I think ginger may actually help but there was an interesting Ziggy today. The pharmacist asked him, "We're out of the regular stuff. Will placebo generics be OK?" A few years ago I decided to put the meclizine aside and try ginger capsules, after all they are natural so what can it hurt? I do not get sick on cruise ships, but I will on dive boats or ferries. The ginger did not help me or my dive partner in the least, we both fed the fish that day. It was back to meclizine for me. If anyone has problems with motion sickness, ask your doctor and your pharmacist, but meclizine works for me. Try it at home when you have time off, but do try it before you take off on vacation. Becca |
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Seasickness question
Seehorse Video plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On
3/11/2010 5:29 AM: mal de mere. ROFL!!! mal de mere translated from the French means "sore mother". I think what you wanted to write is: "le mal de mer". -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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FYI Seasickness and natural remedies was ( Seasickness question
Rosaly Z. Greenberger plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and said On
3/12/2010 5:39 PM: Marcia R. wrote: My fiance is a little concerned about getting seasick on our cruise. I've been looking around the internet for those wrist bands, but I can't seem to find a store that sells them. Does anyone know where I can buy a pack in an actual store and not online? I'm kind of hoping to return them after the cruise if we don't need to open the package. Thanks. Marcia Marcia: I found those bands of no use. You can buy them in any chain drugstore. My preference us Meclizine (generic for Bonine) It works wonders if you take one every morning. and I am a truly seasick sufferer. rosaly FYI - The "Mythbusters" tested a whole battery of "natural" remedies for seasickness. The only one that worked was ginger. But, they found that it worked for only very mild cases of seasickness. I question the notion that natural remedies are somehow "safer" then OTC or prescription medications? Natural dietary supplements are not tested by the Food and Drug Administration for purity. Also, there are no clinical trials to determine side effects. Ginger interacts with prescription medications increasing bleeding and sometimes causing fatality. (see http://www.personalhealthzone.com/ginger.html) -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Pages: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 My Shutterfly Page http://photosbybrianmk.shutterfly.com/ |
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Seasickness question
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:08:57 -0600, Becca wrote:
A few years ago I decided to put the meclizine aside and try ginger capsules, after all they are natural so what can it hurt? I do not get sick on cruise ships, but I will on dive boats or ferries. The ginger did not help me or my dive partner in the least, we both fed the fish that day. It was back to meclizine for me. If anyone has problems with motion sickness, ask your doctor and your pharmacist, but meclizine works for me. Try it at home when you have time off, but do try it before you take off on vacation. Becca I suspect one thing may work better for one person and something else for others. I have taken Bonine with me on cruises but have never used it. It would be a good idea to try it ahead of time. |
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Seasickness question...Thumper
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:30:53 -0500, (Joyce) wrote:
I have 2 cardiologists and this is what they prescribe....I have blood tests every 4 weeks and maintain an inr reading of between 2 & 3.....I do have to be careful. Same here but my cardiologists told me that I don't need two medicines that do what one will do. Thumper |
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