Cruise ship passengers admitted to hospital 'with Legionnaires' symptoms'

Okay this appears to be a little more than the 24-48 hour bug we keep
reading about.

http://tinyurl.com/3bnx2v

Phil


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Okay this appears to be a little more than the 24-48 hour bug we keep
reading about.

http://tinyurl.com/3bnx2v

Phil


Legionella: will it grow in salt water? Or, where the pools freshwater and
heavily chlorinated? My bet is on the airconditioning HVAC system
being the cause. But, this could happen anywhere, including homes with
the DHW turned below 120 degrees.

Phil of Shaw Residential Internet wrote:

Okay this appears to be a little more than the 24-48 hour bug we keep
reading about.

Eek! We are sailing on the Black Watch around the Baltic on 28 August. I'm
a regular swimmer at home so was planning on daily use of the pools.
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I still think the virus comes from the hot tubs,and the swimming
pools,why else would they at the first sign of the illness close down
the hot tubs,and even tho they chlorinate the water,it still takes time
for the chemicals to work


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"Surfer E2468" wrote in message
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I still think the virus comes from the hot tubs,and the swimming
pools,why else would they at the first sign of the illness close down
the hot tubs,and even tho they chlorinate the water,it still takes time
for the chemicals to work



cruise lover


Could be, the water certainly isn't hot enough to kill the bacteria..
I don't know if chlorine has an effect on it or not... It would
be nice to have more info, since we use the spas alot.

Pete

On 7/29/2007 4:42 PM Surfer E2468 exclaimed:
I still think the virus comes from the hot tubs,and the swimming
pools,why else would they at the first sign of the illness close down
the hot tubs,and even tho they chlorinate the water,it still takes time
for the chemicals to work


cruise lover



Legionella drew it's name from it's first outbreak at a Legionnaire's
convention. This was not on a cruise ship or near hot tubs or swimming
pools. The contagion was isolated in the hotel's ventilating system.
Unless cruise ships keep their heating and air conditioning ventilating
systems dry and clean, they will provide a perfect growing medium for
legionella.

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(Surfer E2468) wrote in
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I still think the virus comes from the hot tubs,and the swimming
pools,why else would they at the first sign of the illness close down
the hot tubs,and even tho they chlorinate the water,it still takes
time for the chemicals to work

Even if it doesn't originate there one certainly wants to close down
places and sources of passing things along. Norovirus et al do not
originate in the buffet lines, but unclean hands on spoons certainly do
help the virus move about.



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"Surfer E2468" wrote in message
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I still think the virus comes from the hot tubs,and the swimming
pools,why else would they at the first sign of the illness close down
the hot tubs,and even tho they chlorinate the water,it still takes time
for the chemicals to work



cruise lover


Could be, the water certainly isn't hot enough to kill the bacteria..
I don't know if chlorine has an effect on it or not... It would
be nice to have more info, since we use the spas alot.

Pete

Pete and Annie,
The common denominator is water contaminated with the bacteria that causes
the disease.
Most often, people develop Legionnaires' disease after they inhale bacteria,
called legionella, which flourish in large air conditioning systems,
showers, whirlpool spas and hot tubs. So that is why they shut down the
pools and hot tubs. It happens in nursing homes, hotels and prisons as well
as on cruise ships. The elderly, smokers and people with suppressed immune
systems are most vulnerable...

--Jean

In article .net,
Brian K wrote:

Legionella drew it's name from it's first outbreak at a Legionnaire's
convention. This was not on a cruise ship or near hot tubs or swimming
pools. The contagion was isolated in the hotel's ventilating system.
Unless cruise ships keep their heating and air conditioning ventilating
systems dry and clean, they will provide a perfect growing medium for
legionella.

There was a case where the Legionnaires occurred on a cruise ship and
the cause tracked to a faulty filter in a hot tub. That was on the
Celebrity Horizon. Back in the 90's. A bunch got it and one passenger
died. Celebrity originally won a 190 million dollar lawsuit against the
manufacturer of the filter but that was recently reduced by a court to
15 million.

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In article , Surfer
E2468 wrote:

I still think the virus comes from the hot tubs,and the swimming
pools,why else would they at the first sign of the illness close down
the hot tubs,and even tho they chlorinate the water,it still takes time
for the chemicals to work

Whirlpools and hot tubs are possible culprits but not the swimming
pools. Water at swimming pool temperature is too cool for the bacteria.
Hot tub temperature which is around 100 degrees is perfect for the
bacteria.

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Charles