New aircraft design has rows of passengers sitting face-to-face

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:57:14 +1000, Alan S

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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:44:12 +0200, Martin wrote:


Travel from the UK to Holland and you spend three hours in
security/lounge/gate being sold overpriced bottled water because you
can't bring your own.

I have never needed or wanted to buy water at an a airport.
According to BBC 1 Local London News today bottled water is so passe.

Dehydration can be fairly passe too.

In London drinking fountains are back in fashion.

I haven't heard of anybody suffering from dehydration during a European
flight.

30-40 years ago you couldn't buy plastic bottles of water, how do you
think
people survived?

the airline gave you stuff to drink

tim

In article ,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

A great trip from the technology point of view would be the mainland
Europe high speed services. I recommend the superfast Paris-Marseilles
and Madrid-Seville- there are others though...

Well, one of the reasons I like trains is being able to sightsee without
running off the road, so the high speed trains that go into tunnels just
when the scenery gets interesting aren't really my first choice unless
I'm really going a long distance.

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"JohnT" wrote:

"William Black" wrote in message
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I would be very surprised indeed if any transatlantic flights didn't give
out free food and booze.



You are years out of date. American Airlines, United, Delta all charge for
alcoholic drinks.

I don't usually WANT alcoholic drinks on long flights, but I don't
recall being charged for wine on Lufthansa last time I was in the mood
for it. That was not in the last year, however.

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habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in excess.

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ngr.vans.vg,
Giovanni Drogo wrote:

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, erilar wrote:

Personally, I much prefer trains, but ...

Me too, I prefer trains, but prefer those with seats face-to-back
airplane style, while most train operators insist in face-to-face.

I enjoy conversations with total strangers, though, and there's more
variety of possible conversations with face to face seating 8-)

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habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in excess.

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"Martin" wrote in message
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I don't buy bottles of water. I am quite capable of surviving a European
flight
without drinking water.

Some people seem incapable of surviving a 30 minute train journey without
slurping every two minutes from huge bottles of water! You'd think they were
crossing the Sahara instead of going from Balham to Leicester Square on the
tube!

Ian

On Sep 25, 8:27*pm, "Ian F." wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message

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I don't buy bottles of water. I am quite capable of surviving a European
flight
without drinking water.

Some people seem incapable of surviving a 30 minute train journey without
slurping every two minutes from huge bottles of water! You'd think they were
crossing the Sahara instead of going from Balham to Leicester Square on the
tube!

Ian

aquaholics....

Ian wrote on Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:27:25 +0100:

I don't buy bottles of water. I am quite capable of surviving
a European flight without drinking water.

Some people seem incapable of surviving a 30 minute train
journey without slurping every two minutes from huge bottles
of water! You'd think they were crossing the Sahara instead of
going from Balham to Leicester Square on the tube!

There seems to be a belief among younger women that you have to keep
irrigated while exercising. I'm not sure which guru is responsible for
the directive but you see them taking a slug every 100 steps or so. I've
never felt any need to drink during my 45 minute morning walk but "to
each their own".

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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William Black wrote:
James Silverton wrote:
William wrote on Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:29:45 +0100:

Hatunen wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:06:41 +0100, William Black
wrote:

Tofu wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...el-option.html

No lap straps, no TV, no way to deliver food or drinks, no
way to get to a sick passenger...

Food? Drinks? You haven't been paying attention to the latest
developments,
have you?

I just fly in them...

If I don't get offered free food and drink I find another
airline...

Unfortunately, you may have to travel first-class to do that on many
routes.

Then I'll get on a boat or a train.

I like saving money as much as anyone but is that the only thing
that matters? The arrangement does not look particularly safe for
turbulence or an emergency landing.


They're painfully obviously what happens when an economist is allowed to
talk to a graphic designer without either of them being allowed access
to an engineer or anyone who knows anything about aircraft.



All I can say to that is: :-)

This looks like the lobby of a hotel, not a plane. Run it by an engineer
first.


M
http://cannes-or-bust.com/

erilar wrote:
It's bad enough getting out of a non-aisle seat to go to the toilet;
think about getting across that many legs!!!!!

Toilet? Where did you read about toilets?


M
http://cannes-or-bust.com/

erilar wrote:

In article ,
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

A great trip from the technology point of view would be the mainland
Europe high speed services. I recommend the superfast Paris-Marseilles
and Madrid-Seville- there are others though...

Well, one of the reasons I like trains is being able to sightsee without
running off the road, so the high speed trains that go into tunnels just
when the scenery gets interesting aren't really my first choice unless
I'm really going a long distance.

Those particular high speed lines don't have _so_ many tunnels as I
recall. The Paris-Marseilles line is partcularly impressive, as you can
clearly see the scenery change as you go south, or north. But that said,
they are going so quickly that it's a different kind of sightsee...

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