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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
Raffi Balmanoukian wrote: in article , matt weber at wrote on 3/2/04 11:36 PM: It is up to the building owner. Most don't have it, but most is considerably different than none. Another option I have seen it make the 13th floor a machinery area, so it has no rentable space... I don't know this for a fact.....but does one order elevators "with" and "without" a number 13 for shafts above that number of floors/levels (depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or "first" floor, to come full circle to another discussion) Yes, the elevators are ordered that way. Otis understands. |
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
To make a very long story short, I got a first class QF seat LHR-SYD in 2000 which is a bit longer than LAX-SYD but might compare for the purposes of this example. I later found out that on a last-minute basis, it was an AUD$12,000 ticket which, thankfully, was on Air Canada's tab, not mine. I doubt they pay the full rate for this. |
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in article pan.2004.03.03.04.34.03.281688@TRACKER, Lennier at
lid wrote on 3/3/04 12:34 AM: On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:56:06 +0000, Raffi Balmanoukian wrote: Most policies (not all) not after the first two years. Most, however, DO have a "death in the commission of an offence" exception which could very well apply. Which most definitely does apply - because suicide is a criminal offence. Not for many years (at least not here - dunno about elsewhere). In the past, attempted suicide was a crime........punishable by death. |
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
I don't know this for a fact.....but does one order elevators "with" and "without" a number 13 for shafts above that number of floors/levels (depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or "first" floor, to come full circle to another discussion) Thankfully, on aircraft, the numbering os clear: cargo deck, main deck, upper deck. Cruise ships tend to use names for each deck (Promenade, Sun etc). On many cruise ships, there is a 13th deck. It may not be named "13", but it still it. Consider an airline that names first coach row "7" even though there are only 4 rows of business class. This means that the 13th row is really numbered 16, and the row labeld "13" is really the 10th row. |
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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide
"Terry Russell" wrote in message . au...
"CollectorNZ" wrote in message ... Just how many people jump of Motorway Bridges in LA Try finding the figures don't know, don't actually want to know probably near http://www.cdc.gov/ http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm or local coroners reports They do usually try not to hype it too much, media attention is like an advertisement. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00031539.htm It does have some fascination, evidence this thread. People are not fundamentally logical and not machines no matter how much we try to cast ouselves as such or try to mould others to that imaginary ideal. Yet, even machines break. Too many! |
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"mtravelkay" wrote in message om... Yes, the elevators are ordered that way. Otis understands. While Schindler's Lift has the 13. |
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In message , mtravelkay
writes (depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or "first" floor, to come full circle to another discussion) Yes, the elevators are ordered that way. Otis understands. Lots of elevators in the UK have been installed with "1" as the "ground floor". Whether that was to appease American visitors, or just an ordering gremlin I don't know. So you always have to be on the lookout; ground level can be any of: L - lobby G - ground 0 - UK 1 - American -- Roland Perry |
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nobody muttered....
Raffi Balmanoukian wrote: I don't know this for a fact.....but does one order elevators "with" and "without" a number 13 for shafts above that number of floors/levels (depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or "first" floor, to come full circle to another discussion) Thankfully, on aircraft, the numbering os clear: cargo deck, main deck, upper deck. Which is borrowed from the maritime trade, as are most things including air miles/gnauts (and very few a/c come with full decks other than the "main", so officially the cargo/lower "deck" is no deck, but a platform, as the abbreviated length upper "deck" is also a platform). Cruise ships tend to use names for each deck (Promenade, Sun etc). Which navies avoid because of the potential confusion for those fighting fires or performing other damage control evolutions.... USN - "Main Deck", the highest full deck, and down from there, 2nd, 3rd, 4th decks, etc., while going up in the superstructure, O1, O2, O3, O4, etc. "Levels". The Royal Navy's a bit different and merchant practice has evolved greatly, since most of todays merchantmen have only a single "deck". On many cruise ships, there is a 13th deck. It may not be named "13", but it still it. Not many cruise ships (except the very largest) would have 13 "decks". Consider an airline that names first coach row "7" even though there are only 4 rows of business class. This means that the 13th row is really numbered 16, and the row labeld "13" is really the 10th row. Some airlines adhere to the custom of numbering base on a space allocation for a single "economy" class cabin, with your Row 7 being about where it would be if 6 rows of economy seating were installed forward of it. TMO |
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