best Asian country to stay long term

" wrote:

Most of you have not even listed the Philippines. I believe Philippines rates very high although its one very beautiful place that has been ignored on the asian scene. First of all almost anyone you meet will at least speak some english. That on its own makes a big difference. The country is beutiful and you have a variety of climates to choose from. You will be surprised how it can be nice dry sunny and hot here and cool rainy wet on the other side of the mountain. The people are the friendliest i have seen in Asia and very welcoming. I know short stay visa are not even required for most people but not sure about long stay permits. If you are married to Filipina its very easy to get residency but one thing i found can be a problem is finding work in Philippines.

" wrote:

Related to my previous post i just want to say just go over and check out the philippines for yourself. Manila is a big Happy Busy City and to get a place to stay the night look for the listing of hotels on http://www.assortedinformation.com/manilahotels/

So why do you live in Germany instead?

Shouldn't you show us a good example?

Lol....

"Alfred Molon" wrote in message
...
In article t,
Crouching Tiger says...

Plus I don't stay in Malaysia, Burma, Hong Kong, Taiwan, this is unstable
region, Tsunami, War is supposed to show up next few years.

Malaysia is very stable: no earthquakes, no tsunamis, no wars, low
criminality levels, good health system.
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

On Feb 20, 10:49 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:


Nonsense. Any American can start a business as 100% owner. All other
foreigners can start a business if they have majority Thai partners.
Being married to a Thai is irrelevant.

Your stereotypes are outdated.

what is the best country for working as a foreigner?
In some countries, they just pay you in cash and the government
never finds out you're working.

And when they do you go to jail. If you want to work somewhere get a
work permit.

these are not "stereotypes." they are realities.

to start a business in thailand and work in it you have to get a work
permit in addition to buying the business.

For a foreigner to work in Thailand you have to show you have 2
million baht in the bank. This is why most foreigners who own
businesses in thailand, have thai partners who own the business "on
paper." But the money really comes from the foreigner.

And the foreigner in all these businesses can never be seen "working,"

that is why at all expat bars, the foreign owner sits at the end of
the bar but never behind the bar.

Cost for work permit depends on the lawyer but look at between
anywhere up to 15,000 baht for processing your work permit.

You must have a work permit to open a bank account.
__________________________________________________ _______________

http://www.thailandguru.com/infra-property.html

The Thai wife of a foreigner can own property (a recently changed
legal status due to gender equality in the new 1997 constitution
revision), in her name only. This is fine as long as you don't have
marital problems. (The same, of course, goes for a Thai husband, but
the law was changed recently for Thai wives due to the new
constitution guaranteeing equal rights.)

Foreigners can buy some things outright. Other things must be leased
or bought properly. The most common methods of properly securing
property a


Be the largest shareholder of a domestic company, and have the company
own the property (see details below, as you will own less than 50%,
usually 39%); or


Sign a 30-year (or less) lease with a domestic company or Thai
individual, with an automatic option to renew for another 30 years.
This is called the 2x30 ("two times 30") way.

__________________________________________________ ___________________

http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate...nting-property

Finally, due to the severe restrictions in place on foreigners owning
property in Thailand, the Thai rental market is both large and health

Thanouxay and all,

No doubt about that, Luangphrabang is one of the most unique and
beautiful cities in the world. But don't forget the fact that it is
the heritage of our Lao Lanexang kingdom and her peace loving people
who created it, and not the product of this current Lao commu people
and their new regime.

When talking about LP, at least some credits should be given to the
ones (our Lao ancestors) who sacrificed their live to run, protect and
build the city and the kingdom to become a beautiful and proud nation.
Some credits should be given to the ones who actually built the city
and country to becoming at same level of our neighbor countries at
that time.... And not just bragging and giving credit to the new regime
and its pak-salat-songsai, who only know to "Potpoy" the country, but
don't know how to build anything.

It's shameful to brag and just mention that Luang Phrabang is the
world heritage city without telling the world the people who actually
built it before and the left-over people who still live there.

thanouxay, i don't think the LP people want your quater of Chinese
people come to their beautiful city. it's far toooo many for them to
handle, don't you think so? please don't be too greedy on tourists
maney. there're many things else to do to make money if you're really
salad-songsai.

Hakpheng
pizone


On Feb 20, 8:56 pm, "thanouxay" wrote:
Kaws and all,

Kaws is so upset to notice that Laos and Luang Prabang is rated among
the top ten for tourist destination that he needs to paintbrush it
with prostitution.

You may wonder why Luang Prabang has topped the list of ten most
attractive destination in the world which included: Luang Prabang,
Varanasi (India), Cordoba (Spain), Siena (Italy), San Francisco (USA),
Lucca (Italy), Sydney (Australia), Seville (Spain), Siem Reap
(Cambodia) and New York (USA).

Why Luang Prabang?
Although not Laos' capital, Luang Prabang is the country's cultural
capital, a living museum that well derserves its world heritage
status. Nestled on the bank of the upper Mekong, this is a place you
visit for days but want to stay for weeks. A place where life slows
down. But change is coming. The city is on a crossroads between
Thailand and China. The Thai love Luang Prabang and view it like
Chiang Mai before developpers destroyed it. As for Chineses, imagine
when a quarter of them get passports. that is the biggest influx of
tourists since Kublai Khan came marauding through with his Mongol
hordes in the 13th century.

This is a good new for all Laotian who will work hard to promote a
good image of their honeland.

You see Kaws that there is nothing to do with prostitution even if you
want to paint a bad image for Laos.

Sok dee

On Feb 21, 1:16 am, wrote:



Mr Spokesperson,

People rated Laos not for a long term visitation. They visit Laos
because Laos has the best young Lao girls for sexual exploitation. The
following article prove it to be true.

http://www.speroforum.com/site/artic...rvey+shows+gri...

Kaws

On Feb 20, 12:51 am, "thanouxay" wrote:

Dear Sir,

Laos is the best place to visit, according to the article below:

Laos is best place to visit
05 February 2007
Laos has been voted as one of the best places in the world to take a
holiday.

The south-east Asian country topped a poll carried out by travel
magazine Wanderlust, which sought the opinions of over 3,000 of its
readers.

Luang Prabang was the destination specifically highlighted in the
poll, with a 96.36% satisfaction rating.

Laos was closely followed by Varanasi, India, which received a 96%
satisfaction rating.

India's inclusion in the top five has been welcomed by many, with
Wanderlust's editor-in-chief describing the country as a 'world class
destination'.

'It is terrific to see an Indian city in one of the winning spots for
the first time,' said Lyn Hughes.

'It has always been a popular destination with our readers but this
year's result proves that it is a world class destination. It is a
place that exceeds expectations and leaves an indelible impression.'

The remainder of the top five best destinations to visit is made up of
Cordoba in Spain, Siena in Italy and San Francisco in the US.

© Adfero Ltd

On Feb 20, 3:58 am, " wrote:

what is the best country in asia to stay long term...
India, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Burma, Hong Kong,
Taiwan ......?

Which country has the most generous visa policy?
For example: India gives you 6 month tourist visa for 60 USD.
Thailand gives a 60 day tourist visa for 25
USD.
Taiwan is strict about visas, so you have to
register at a fake Chinese school to get a student visa.

What is the best asian country for starting a business as a foreigner?
For example-- a foreigner can start a business in India, but not
in Thailand unless he contributes a lot of money or has a Thai wife.

what is the best country for working as a foreigner?
In some countries, they just pay you in cash and the government
never finds out you're working.

In which country are the people the nicest?
I would say Thailand wins this one.

Which country is the most relaxing, or the most fun to be in --- long
term, not just two weeks at a beach.

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Sabaidee ai Thanouxay and all .

You are talking about the best place to visit is Laos . Mr. Pizone
want the world to know who built it . Most people knew that world
heritage is usely
involve with an old city with hundred of year . Why Luangprabang is
not world heritage before 1975 ? Who promote it ? We are talking about
the beauty of Luangprabang as a whole . We are not talking about the
construction of Luangprabang who built it and how .
Even if you names who build it , how many people used to build and
listed all their names and how many wives , kids and grand kids do
they have some people still won't be happy . Better yet have your
secretary type the whole history of Luangprabang to post it here too .
Mr. Pizone may still not happy and most of us know why .

Amitaphout buddah please help konelao .

PXL4LIFE.








On Feb 21, 8:10 am, "pizone" wrote:
Thanouxay and all,

No doubt about that, Luangphrabang is one of the most unique and
beautiful cities in the world. But don't forget the fact that it is
the heritage of our Lao Lanexang kingdom and her peace loving people
who created it, and not the product of this current Lao commu people
and their new regime.

When talking about LP, at least some credits should be given to the
ones (our Lao ancestors) who sacrificed their live to run, protect and
build the city and the kingdom to become a beautiful and proud nation.
Some credits should be given to the ones who actually built the city
and country to becoming at same level of our neighbor countries at
that time.... And not just bragging and giving credit to the new regime
and its pak-salat-songsai, who only know to "Potpoy" the country, but
don't know how to build anything.

It's shameful to brag and just mention that Luang Phrabang is the
world heritage city without telling the world the people who actually
built it before and the left-over people who still live there.

thanouxay, i don't think the LP people want your quater of Chinese
people come to their beautiful city. it's far toooo many for them to
handle, don't you think so? please don't be too greedy on tourists
maney. there're many things else to do to make money if you're really
salad-songsai.

Hakpheng
pizone

On Feb 20, 8:56 pm, "thanouxay" wrote:



Kaws and all,

Kaws is so upset to notice that Laos and Luang Prabang is rated among
the top ten for tourist destination that he needs to paintbrush it
with prostitution.

You may wonder why Luang Prabang has topped the list of ten most
attractive destination in the world which included: Luang Prabang,
Varanasi (India), Cordoba (Spain), Siena (Italy), San Francisco (USA),
Lucca (Italy), Sydney (Australia), Seville (Spain), Siem Reap
(Cambodia) and New York (USA).

Why Luang Prabang?
Although not Laos' capital, Luang Prabang is the country's cultural
capital, a living museum that well derserves its world heritage
status. Nestled on the bank of the upper Mekong, this is a place you
visit for days but want to stay for weeks. A place where life slows
down. But change is coming. The city is on a crossroads between
Thailand and China. The Thai love Luang Prabang and view it like
Chiang Mai before developpers destroyed it. As for Chineses, imagine
when a quarter of them get passports. that is the biggest influx of
tourists since Kublai Khan came marauding through with his Mongol
hordes in the 13th century.

This is a good new for all Laotian who will work hard to promote a
good image of their honeland.

You see Kaws that there is nothing to do with prostitution even if you
want to paint a bad image for Laos.

Sok dee

On Feb 21, 1:16 am, wrote:

Mr Spokesperson,

People rated Laos not for a long term visitation. They visit Laos
because Laos has the best young Lao girls for sexual exploitation. The
following article prove it to be true.

http://www.speroforum.com/site/artic...rvey+shows+gri...

Kaws

On Feb 20, 12:51 am, "thanouxay" wrote:

Dear Sir,

Laos is the best place to visit, according to the article below:

Laos is best place to visit
05 February 2007
Laos has been voted as one of the best places in the world to take a
holiday.

The south-east Asian country topped a poll carried out by travel
magazine Wanderlust, which sought the opinions of over 3,000 of its
readers.

Luang Prabang was the destination specifically highlighted in the
poll, with a 96.36% satisfaction rating.

Laos was closely followed by Varanasi, India, which received a 96%
satisfaction rating.

India's inclusion in the top five has been welcomed by many, with
Wanderlust's editor-in-chief describing the country as a 'world class
destination'.

'It is terrific to see an Indian city in one of the winning spots for
the first time,' said Lyn Hughes.

'It has always been a popular destination with our readers but this
year's result proves that it is a world class destination. It is a
place that exceeds expectations and leaves an indelible impression.'

The remainder of the top five best destinations to visit is made up of
Cordoba in Spain, Siena in Italy and San Francisco in the US.

© Adfero Ltd

On Feb 20, 3:58 am, " wrote:

what is the best country in asia to stay long term...
India, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Burma, Hong Kong,
Taiwan ......?

Which country has the most generous visa policy?
For example: India gives you 6 month tourist visa for 60 USD.
Thailand gives a 60 day tourist visa for 25
USD.
Taiwan is strict about visas, so you have to
register at a fake Chinese school to get a student visa.

What is the best asian country for starting a business as a foreigner?
For example-- a foreigner can start a business in India, but not
in Thailand unless he contributes a lot of money or has a Thai wife.

what is the best country for working as a foreigner?
In some countries, they just pay you in cash and the government
never finds out you're working.

In which country are the people the nicest?
I would say Thailand wins this one.

Which country is the most relaxing, or the most fun to be in --- long
term, not just two weeks at a beach.

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On Feb 21, 5:25 pm, "Ian Chelada" wrote:
On Feb 20, 10:49 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:

Nonsense. Any American can start a business as 100% owner. All other
foreigners can start a business if they have majority Thai partners.
Being married to a Thai is irrelevant.

Your stereotypes are outdated.

what is the best country for working as a foreigner?
In some countries, they just pay you in cash and the government
never finds out you're working.

And when they do you go to jail. If you want to work somewhere get a
work permit.

these are not "stereotypes." they are realities.

Wrong. Don't forget, I live and work in Thailand.

to start a business in thailand and work in it you have to get a work
permit in addition to buying the business.

Wrong. To start a business you must meet certain requirements. Work
Permit is not one. However if you want to work you have to have a Work
Permit regardless of who owns the business. The 2 aren't related.

BTW, this is the same as virtually any country in the world.

For a foreigner to work in Thailand you have to show you have 2
million baht in the bank.

Blithering nonsense. For a foreigner to work in Thailand you have to
have a valid job and a Work Permit. Bank deposits are *not* required.
I don't have 2 million baht in a Thai bank (or any bank, for that
matter; deposits that size I keep in brokerage funds and not in
Thailand).

This is why most foreigners who own
businesses in thailand, have thai partners who own the business "on
paper." But the money really comes from the foreigner.

Again, not true. Unless you are an American (US has a special "Amity"
treaty with Thailand), foreigners are not allowed to own a majority
share in a business. Foreigners who own businesses in Thailand have
Thai partners because it's the law. Nothing to do with bank deposits.

And the foreigner in all these businesses can never be seen "working,"

Nonsense. All you need is a Work Permit.

that is why at all expat bars, the foreign owner sits at the end of
the bar but never behind the bar.

And these guys are all scamming the system. Don't use bar owners as an
example. Unless you are trying to show a "bad" example.

Cost for work permit depends on the lawyer but look at between
anywhere up to 15,000 baht for processing your work permit.

This just keeps getting worse. I didn't have to see a lawyer and I
didn't pay 15,000 baht for my Work Permit or anything close to that.

You must have a work permit to open a bank account.

Wrong again. As a perfect example, retirees are required to have Thai
bank accounts but are forbidden to have Work Permits.

http://www.thailandguru.com/infra-property.html

The Thai wife of a foreigner can own property (a recently changed
legal status due to gender equality in the new 1997 constitution
revision), in her name only. This is fine as long as you don't have
marital problems. (The same, of course, goes for a Thai husband, but
the law was changed recently for Thai wives due to the new
constitution guaranteeing equal rights.)

Foreigners can buy some things outright. Other things must be leased
or bought properly. The most common methods of properly securing
property a

Be the largest shareholder of a domestic company, and have the company
own the property (see details below, as you will own less than 50%,
usually 39%); or

This is ridiculously bad advice.

On Feb 22, 7:23 am, "Tchiowa" wrote:
On Feb 21, 5:25 pm, "Ian Chelada" wrote:

On Feb 20, 10:49 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:
Nonsense. Any American can start a business as 100% owner. All other
foreigners can start a business if they have majority Thai partners.
Being married to a Thai is irrelevant.

Your stereotypes are outdated.

what is the best country for working as a foreigner?
In some countries, they just pay you in cash and the government
never finds out you're working.

And when they do you go to jail. If you want to work somewhere get a
work permit.

these are not "stereotypes." they are realities.

Wrong. Don't forget, I live and work in Thailand.

to start a business in thailand and work in it you have to get a work
permit in addition to buying the business.

Wrong. To start a business you must meet certain requirements. Work
Permit is not one. However if you want to work you have to have a Work
Permit regardless of who owns the business. The 2 aren't related.

BTW, this is the same as virtually any country in the world.

For a foreigner to work in Thailand you have to show you have 2
million baht in the bank.

Blithering nonsense. For a foreigner to work in Thailand you have to
have a valid job and a Work Permit. Bank deposits are *not* required.
I don't have 2 million baht in a Thai bank (or any bank, for that
matter; deposits that size I keep in brokerage funds and not in
Thailand).

This is why most foreigners who own
businesses in thailand, have thai partners who own the business "on
paper." But the money really comes from the foreigner.

Again, not true. Unless you are an American (US has a special "Amity"
treaty with Thailand), foreigners are not allowed to own a majority
share in a business. Foreigners who own businesses in Thailand have
Thai partners because it's the law. Nothing to do with bank deposits.

And the foreigner in all these businesses can never be seen "working,"

Nonsense. All you need is a Work Permit.

that is why at all expat bars, the foreign owner sits at the end of
the bar but never behind the bar.

And these guys are all scamming the system. Don't use bar owners as an
example. Unless you are trying to show a "bad" example.

Cost for work permit depends on the lawyer but look at between
anywhere up to 15,000 baht for processing your work permit.

This just keeps getting worse. I didn't have to see a lawyer and I
didn't pay 15,000 baht for my Work Permit or anything close to that.

You must have a work permit to open a bank account.

Wrong again. As a perfect example, retirees are required to have Thai
bank accounts but are forbidden to have Work Permits.



http://www.thailandguru.com/infra-property.html

The Thai wife of a foreigner can own property (a recently changed
legal status due to gender equality in the new 1997 constitution
revision), in her name only. This is fine as long as you don't have
marital problems. (The same, of course, goes for a Thai husband, but
the law was changed recently for Thai wives due to the new
constitution guaranteeing equal rights.)

Foreigners can buy some things outright. Other things must be leased
or bought properly. The most common methods of properly securing
property a

Be the largest shareholder of a domestic company, and have the company
own the property (see details below, as you will own less than 50%,
usually 39%); or

This is ridiculously bad advice.

Hey Titchy: what ever happened to you? One of the very few articles
from you that are even correct - going to change in your age, are
you???

Chabby

On Feb 21, 4:23 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:

You have addressed the issue of an american working as an employee in
thailand but not that of an american starting a business.

I am aware of the special condition that Americans have regarding
business ownership in Thailand. And I know that "on paper" the fees
are negligible. I think the Thais may have a way of getting a lot more
"fees" out of a foreing business owner, even if he is american,
however.

This still leaves open the issue of the property on which the business
operates. A foreigner can own a structure but not the land.

So do you know if the American business owner can own the structure
outright 100% or only a percent?

If not, it would be better for an American to rent the premises of his
business.

sarp

Its very exiting to hear that our Lao country is one of the most
enjoyable place to live.

I've been in Luang Prabang couple of times and I really like it.
My only wish is that I could live in a longer term.

If any body could share the knowledge of getting a long term visa to
stay in Laos, please let me know.

Huck Paeng Der.