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Old February 28th, 2004, 09:18 AM
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Stress simply is resisting what is.

Built up stress effects the prana flow of the body, which if prolonged can
result in weakness, illness and disease.

There are ways for resolving things to relieve the cause of stress.

One way is to give all your worries to a higher power such as God, Buddha,
Kali, Shakti etc.

r





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I Seek


What causes disease and pain? What causes

respiratory disorders, cancer, high blood

pressure, heart disease, headaches, digestive

disorders and arthritis? After reading about

Qigong I am inclined to believe that this is the

result of prolonged stress.




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Old February 28th, 2004, 09:49 AM
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Stress simply is resisting what is.

Built up stress effects the prana flow of the body, which if prolonged can
result in weakness, illness and disease.

There are ways for resolving things to relieve the cause of stress.

One way is to give all your worries to a higher power such as God, Buddha,
Kali, Shakti etc.

r





"Seeker" wrote in message
...
I Seek


What causes disease and pain? What causes

respiratory disorders, cancer, high blood

pressure, heart disease, headaches, digestive

disorders and arthritis? After reading about

Qigong I am inclined to believe that this is the

result of prolonged stress.




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Old February 29th, 2004, 01:48 PM
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Let's bring back the days
when we were really known as squeeky clean Singapore.


What do you mean by "good old days"? Vice activities were here as early as
the first immigrants.


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Old March 1st, 2004, 04:32 AM
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Singaporization of Thailand?

OrangeMan wrote:
Closing early in Thailand
Seth Mydans/NYT
Midnight's the limit for clubs and bars

BANGKOK Imagine a city where bars, nightclubs and even movie theaters
shut down early, where young people are off the streets by curfew,
where universities stage surprise drug tests and where a woman cannot
enter a restaurant without a male escort.
.


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Old March 1st, 2004, 10:04 PM
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Good to know. Not that I planned to party until 4 a.m. every night, or spend
all my money on prostitutes and illegal drugs-- I don't. But if the
government of Thailand wants to turn its greatest city into a convent, I'll
be sure to spend as little time as possible there and spread my tourist
dollars around in another city.


"OrangeMan" wrote in message
om...
Closing early in Thailand
Seth Mydans/NYT
Midnight's the limit for clubs and bars

BANGKOK Imagine a city where bars, nightclubs and even movie theaters
shut down early, where young people are off the streets by curfew,
where universities stage surprise drug tests and where a woman cannot
enter a restaurant without a male escort.
.
That would not be the racy, all-night Bangkok that people like to call
"fun city."
.
But it is Bangkok - and the rest of Thailand - as imagined by powerful
government reformers who have already begun to put a crimp in the fun.
.
Nearly three years ago, they began what they call a "social order"
campaign, enforcing a 2 a.m. closing time that nobody had ever
bothered about and raiding nightspots and testing customers for drugs.
.
To almost everyone's surprise, the politically popular campaign has
persisted despite the resistance of powerful businessmen and the
complaints of Western tourists.
.
Now the screws are beginning to tighten.
.
On March 1, most nightclubs, bars and discos will have their closing
times moved back to midnight, one of the most stringent curfews in
Asia. After March 29, under another new regulation, all youngsters
under 18 will have to be off the streets by 10 p.m. unless they are
with their parents.
.
This month, the Interior Ministry announced a 100-fold increase in
license fees that, if put into effect, is sure to put scores of
restaurants, ballrooms, massage parlors and other entertainment places
out of business.
.
With Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra intimidating the press; packing
the courts, the police and the military; and all but eliminating
political opposition, and with social order added to the mix, Thailand
could begin to be a somewhat different place.
.
There are those, indeed, who warn of a creeping dictatorship as the
popular and powerful prime minister moves systematically to bring the
country into his grip.
.
"There is a very troubling hint of a yearning to gradually turn
Thailand into a police state," wrote Pravit Rojanaphruk, a political
commentator, in the English-language daily The Nation last week.
.
Government officials are not shy about saying pretty much the same
thing.
.
"I want my children to grow up in a polite, peaceful and orderly
society," said Purachai Piemsomboon, a former interior minister who
instituted the crackdown, in a television interview last year.
.
As soon as it was started, Thailand's campaign was widely popular,
with polls showing that 70 percent of the public backed it. For the
moment, Purachai has become the most popular politician in the
country.
.
"Students are reveling without a limit," he said. "Dancing is not
dirty, but how they behave matters. They must not have sex in lifts or
toilets. That's pathetic."
.
This is a time of wrenching change in Thailand as traditional social
and family structures give way to the modern world. Purachai was
voicing the fears of many people who see their country, and their
children, running out of control.
.
On the other hand, there are critics who say Purachai and his fellow
reformers have gotten a bit out of control themselves.
.
At one point, a police district in Bangkok, resurrecting a
long-forgotten law, ordered entertainment places to turn away any
women who tried to enter without a male escort.
.
Early last year, the police raided movie theaters in a shopping mall
and ordered them to close at midnight, citing an old martial law
curfew that was still on the books.
.
"Although the law was established 30 years ago, it is still practical,
especially for today's generation, who face too many temptations,"
said Somchai Petprasert, a police colonel working as an adviser to the
Education Ministry.
.
It has only been a little more than a decade since Thailand was ruled
by generals, and the rights and freedoms of its democracy are still
fragile. It was only at the end of 1997 that these were codified in a
new Constitution.
.
Thaksin's six-year-old government has been systematically rolling back
those reforms, weakening safeguards against corruption and electoral
fraud, muzzling government critics and using economic pressure to
stifle the press.
.
Public morals and social behavior may prove to be a greater challenge,
though.
.
"We are helping them keep their virginity," explained Nikhom
Jarumanee, an Education Ministry official, when an experimental curfew
was tried on Valentine's Day two years ago.
.
Plenty of people here think this is balderdash.
.
The Bangkok Post, an English-language daily, summed up the mood in a
sarcastic headline last week: "Lock Up the Young, This Is Thailand."
.
The New York Times

Back to Start of Article Midnight's the limit for clubs and bars

BANGKOK Imagine a city where bars, nightclubs and even movie theaters
shut down early, where young people are off the streets by curfew,
where universities stage surprise drug tests and where a woman cannot
enter a restaurant without a male escort.
.
That would not be the racy, all-night Bangkok that people like to call
"fun city."
.
But it is Bangkok - and the rest of Thailand - as imagined by powerful
government reformers who have already begun to put a crimp in the fun.
.
Nearly three years ago, they began what they call a "social order"
campaign, enforcing a 2 a.m. closing time that nobody had ever
bothered about and raiding nightspots and testing customers for drugs.
.
To almost everyone's surprise, the politically popular campaign has
persisted despite the resistance of powerful businessmen and the
complaints of Western tourists.
.
Now the screws are beginning to tighten.
.
On March 1, most nightclubs, bars and discos will have their closing
times moved back to midnight, one of the most stringent curfews in
Asia. After March 29, under another new regulation, all youngsters
under 18 will have to be off the streets by 10 p.m. unless they are
with their parents.
.
This month, the Interior Ministry announced a 100-fold increase in
license fees that, if put into effect, is sure to put scores of
restaurants, ballrooms, massage parlors and other entertainment places
out of business.
.
With Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra intimidating the press; packing
the courts, the police and the military; and all but eliminating
political opposition, and with social order added to the mix, Thailand
could begin to be a somewhat different place.
.
There are those, indeed, who warn of a creeping dictatorship as the
popular and powerful prime minister moves systematically to bring the
country into his grip.
.
"There is a very troubling hint of a yearning to gradually turn
Thailand into a police state," wrote Pravit Rojanaphruk, a political
commentator, in the English-language daily The Nation last week.
.
Government officials are not shy about saying pretty much the same
thing.
.
"I want my children to grow up in a polite, peaceful and orderly
society," said Purachai Piemsomboon, a former interior minister who
instituted the crackdown, in a television interview last year.
.
As soon as it was started, Thailand's campaign was widely popular,
with polls showing that 70 percent of the public backed it. For the
moment, Purachai has become the most popular politician in the
country.
.
"Students are reveling without a limit," he said. "Dancing is not
dirty, but how they behave matters. They must not have sex in lifts or
toilets. That's pathetic."
.
This is a time of wrenching change in Thailand as traditional social
and family structures give way to the modern world. Purachai was
voicing the fears of many people who see their country, and their
children, running out of control.
.
On the other hand, there are critics who say Purachai and his fellow
reformers have gotten a bit out of control themselves.
.
At one point, a police district in Bangkok, resurrecting a
long-forgotten law, ordered entertainment places to turn away any
women who tried to enter without a male escort.
.
Early last year, the police raided movie theaters in a shopping mall
and ordered them to close at midnight, citing an old martial law
curfew that was still on the books.
.
"Although the law was established 30 years ago, it is still practical,
especially for today's generation, who face too many temptations,"
said Somchai Petprasert, a police colonel working as an adviser to the
Education Ministry.
.
It has only been a little more than a decade since Thailand was ruled
by generals, and the rights and freedoms of its democracy are still
fragile. It was only at the end of 1997 that these were codified in a
new Constitution.
.
Thaksin's six-year-old government has been systematically rolling back
those reforms, weakening safeguards against corruption and electoral
fraud, muzzling government critics and using economic pressure to
stifle the press.
.
Public morals and social behavior may prove to be a greater challenge,
though.
.
"We are helping them keep their virginity," explained Nikhom
Jarumanee, an Education Ministry official, when an experimental curfew
was tried on Valentine's Day two years ago.
.
Plenty of people here think this is balderdash.
.
The Bangkok Post, an English-language daily, summed up the mood in a
sarcastic headline last week: "Lock Up the Young, This Is Thailand."
.
The New York Times Midnight's the limit for clubs and bars

BANGKOK Imagine a city where bars, nightclubs and even movie theaters
shut down early, where young people are off the streets by curfew,
where universities stage surprise drug tests and where a woman cannot
enter a restaurant without a male escort.
.
That would not be the racy, all-night Bangkok that people like to call
"fun city."
.
But it is Bangkok - and the rest of Thailand - as imagined by powerful
government reformers who have already begun to put a crimp in the fun.
.
Nearly three years ago, they began what they call a "social order"
campaign, enforcing a 2 a.m. closing time that nobody had ever
bothered about and raiding nightspots and testing customers for drugs.
.
To almost everyone's surprise, the politically popular campaign has
persisted despite the resistance of powerful businessmen and the
complaints of Western tourists.
.
Now the screws are beginning to tighten.
.
On March 1, most nightclubs, bars and discos will have their closing
times moved back to midnight, one of the most stringent curfews in
Asia. After March 29, under another new regulation, all youngsters
under 18 will have to be off the streets by 10 p.m. unless they are
with their parents.
.
This month, the Interior Ministry announced a 100-fold increase in
license fees that, if put into effect, is sure to put scores of
restaurants, ballrooms, massage parlors and other entertainment places
out of business.
.
With Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra intimidating the press; packing
the courts, the police and the military; and all but eliminating
political opposition, and with social order added to the mix, Thailand
could begin to be a somewhat different place.
.
There are those, indeed, who warn of a creeping dictatorship as the
popular and powerful prime minister moves systematically to bring the
country into his grip.
.
"There is a very troubling hint of a yearning to gradually turn
Thailand into a police state," wrote Pravit Rojanaphruk, a political
commentator, in the English-language daily The Nation last week.
.
Government officials are not shy about saying pretty much the same
thing.
.
"I want my children to grow up in a polite, peaceful and orderly
society," said Purachai Piemsomboon, a former interior minister who
instituted the crackdown, in a television interview last year.
.
As soon as it was started, Thailand's campaign was widely popular,
with polls showing that 70 percent of the public backed it. For the
moment, Purachai has become the most popular politician in the
country.
.
"Students are reveling without a limit," he said. "Dancing is not
dirty, but how they behave matters. They must not have sex in lifts or
toilets. That's pathetic."
.
This is a time of wrenching change in Thailand as traditional social
and family structures give way to the modern world. Purachai was
voicing the fears of many people who see their country, and their
children, running out of control.
.
On the other hand, there are critics who say Purachai and his fellow
reformers have gotten a bit out of control themselves.
.
At one point, a police district in Bangkok, resurrecting a
long-forgotten law, ordered entertainment places to turn away any
women who tried to enter without a male escort.
.
Early last year, the police raided movie theaters in a shopping mall
and ordered them to close at midnight, citing an old martial law
curfew that was still on the books.
.
"Although the law was established 30 years ago, it is still practical,
especially for today's generation, who face too many temptations,"
said Somchai Petprasert, a police colonel working as an adviser to the
Education Ministry.
.
It has only been a little more than a decade since Thailand was ruled
by generals, and the rights and freedoms of its democracy are still
fragile. It was only at the end of 1997 that these were codified in a
new Constitution.
.
Thaksin's six-year-old government has been systematically rolling back
those reforms, weakening safeguards against corruption and electoral
fraud, muzzling government critics and using economic pressure to
stifle the press.
.
Public morals and social behavior may prove to be a greater challenge,
though.
.
"We are helping them keep their virginity," explained Nikhom
Jarumanee, an Education Ministry official, when an experimental curfew
was tried on Valentine's Day two years ago.
.
Plenty of people here think this is balderdash.
.
The Bangkok Post, an English-language daily, summed up the mood in a
sarcastic headline last week: "Lock Up the Young, This Is Thailand."
.
The New York Times Midnight's the limit for clubs and bars

BANGKOK Imagine a city where bars, nightclubs and even movie theaters
shut down early, where young people are off the streets by curfew,
where universities stage surprise drug tests and where a woman cannot
enter a restaurant without a male escort.
.
That would not be the racy, all-night Bangkok that people like to call
"fun city."
.
But it is Bangkok - and the rest of Thailand - as imagined by powerful
government reformers who have already begun to put a crimp in the fun.
.
Nearly three years ago, they began what they call a "social order"
campaign, enforcing a 2 a.m. closing time that nobody had ever
bothered about and raiding nightspots and testing customers for drugs.
.
To almost everyone's surprise, the politically popular campaign has
persisted despite the resistance of powerful businessmen and the
complaints of Western tourists.
.
Now the screws are beginning to tighten.
.
On March 1, most nightclubs, bars and discos will have their closing
times moved back to midnight, one of the most stringent curfews in
Asia. After March 29, under another new regulation, all youngsters
under 18 will have to be off the streets by 10 p.m. unless they are
with their parents.
.
This month, the Interior Ministry announced a 100-fold increase in
license fees that, if put into effect, is sure to put scores of
restaurants, ballrooms, massage parlors and other entertainment places
out of business.
.
With Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra intimidating the press; packing
the courts, the police and the military; and all but eliminating
political opposition, and with social order added to the mix, Thailand
could begin to be a somewhat different place.
.
There are those, indeed, who warn of a creeping dictatorship as the
popular and powerful prime minister moves systematically to bring the
country into his grip.
.
"There is a very troubling hint of a yearning to gradually turn
Thailand into a police state," wrote Pravit Rojanaphruk, a political
commentator, in the English-language daily The Nation last week.
.
Government officials are not shy about saying pretty much the same
thing.
.
"I want my children to grow up in a polite, peaceful and orderly
society," said Purachai Piemsomboon, a former interior minister who
instituted the crackdown, in a television interview last year.
.
As soon as it was started, Thailand's campaign was widely popular,
with polls showing that 70 percent of the public backed it. For the
moment, Purachai has become the most popular politician in the
country.
.
"Students are reveling without a limit," he said. "Dancing is not
dirty, but how they behave matters. They must not have sex in lifts or
toilets. That's pathetic."
.
This is a time of wrenching change in Thailand as traditional social
and family structures give way to the modern world. Purachai was
voicing the fears of many people who see their country, and their
children, running out of control.
.
On the other hand, there are critics who say Purachai and his fellow
reformers have gotten a bit out of control themselves.
.
At one point, a police district in Bangkok, resurrecting a
long-forgotten law, ordered entertainment places to turn away any
women who tried to enter without a male escort.
.
Early last year, the police raided movie theaters in a shopping mall
and ordered them to close at midnight, citing an old martial law
curfew that was still on the books.
.
"Although the law was established 30 years ago, it is still practical,
especially for today's generation, who face too many temptations,"
said Somchai Petprasert, a police colonel working as an adviser to the
Education Ministry.
.
It has only been a little more than a decade since Thailand was ruled
by generals, and the rights and freedoms of its democracy are still
fragile. It was only at the end of 1997 that these were codified in a
new Constitution.
.
Thaksin's six-year-old government has been systematically rolling back
those reforms, weakening safeguards against corruption and electoral
fraud, muzzling government critics and using economic pressure to
stifle the press.
.
Public morals and social behavior may prove to be a greater challenge,
though.
.
"We are helping them keep their virginity," explained Nikhom
Jarumanee, an Education Ministry official, when an experimental curfew
was tried on Valentine's Day two years ago.
.
Plenty of people here think this is balderdash.
.
The Bangkok Post, an English-language daily, summed up the mood in a
sarcastic headline last week: "Lock Up the Young, This Is Thailand."
.
The New York Times
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Old March 2nd, 2004, 03:08 AM
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Yeah, good for you. Bangkok and for that matter, Singapore don't need
your kind of tourist to corrupt our young and sully our asian cities
with your "filthy" dollars. Maybe we prefer eco tourists and those who
can appreciate the natural beauty of a place or region rather than
those sex hungry tourists after lust.

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:04:59 -0500, "Matt Kelly"
wrote:

Good to know. Not that I planned to party until 4 a.m. every night, or spend
all my money on prostitutes and illegal drugs-- I don't. But if the
government of Thailand wants to turn its greatest city into a convent, I'll
be sure to spend as little time as possible there and spread my tourist
dollars around in another city.



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Old March 2nd, 2004, 03:25 AM
Ewan
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wrote in message
...

Yeah, good for you. Bangkok and for that matter, Singapore don't need
your kind of tourist to corrupt our young and sully our asian cities
with your "filthy" dollars. Maybe we prefer eco tourists and those who
can appreciate the natural beauty of a place or region rather than
those sex hungry tourists after lust.


In that case, why are there so many Thais and other asian nationalities (so
I'm told) working on the game in Singapore?
Ewan



On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:04:59 -0500, "Matt Kelly"
wrote:

Good to know. Not that I planned to party until 4 a.m. every night, or

spend
all my money on prostitutes and illegal drugs-- I don't. But if the
government of Thailand wants to turn its greatest city into a convent,

I'll
be sure to spend as little time as possible there and spread my tourist
dollars around in another city.





 




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