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under what circumstances do us passports get us stamps?
mrtravel blabbles: John Levine wrote: Why would a US citizen need proof of when they entered the US? If you spend 330 days out of 365 outside of the US, there are some favorable expatriate tax provisions that kick in. Passport stamps are an easy way to establish where you were. Given that information, I would think you wouldn't want to prove that you actually came back. *You* should leave the country, ace...*no* one would miss a drivelling puke like you... -- Best Greg " I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that we are some kind of comedy team turns my stomach." - "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking |
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under what circumstances do us passports get us stamps?
DevilsPGD wrote:
In message mrtravel wrote: DevilsPGD wrote: My point is that paying for a flight and printing a receipt and boarding pass is not the same thing as actually taking the flight, especially not when dealing with insurance, gov't for tax purposes, or similar. What would you use to deduct a flight as a business expense? My company takes the fact that I showed up at the office or at a client's site as evidence that I did something to earn my reimbursement, so little to no verification is needed if the expense is reasonable. (My company doesn't even require actual receipts to be submitted, I'm a contractor and I simply invoice the total amount, the proof is that I physically arrived) When it comes to tax deductions at the end of the year, the gov't is more concerned with how you spent the money then whether you actually flew, even an unflown flight is a valid business deduction. My point was that if IRS will take a home printed receipt as proof of the expense, then why wouldn't they require a passport stamp as evidence of you time out of country, rather than other records? |
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under what circumstances do us passports get us stamps?
In message mrtravel
wrote: DevilsPGD wrote: In message mrtravel wrote: DevilsPGD wrote: My point is that paying for a flight and printing a receipt and boarding pass is not the same thing as actually taking the flight, especially not when dealing with insurance, gov't for tax purposes, or similar. What would you use to deduct a flight as a business expense? My company takes the fact that I showed up at the office or at a client's site as evidence that I did something to earn my reimbursement, so little to no verification is needed if the expense is reasonable. (My company doesn't even require actual receipts to be submitted, I'm a contractor and I simply invoice the total amount, the proof is that I physically arrived) When it comes to tax deductions at the end of the year, the gov't is more concerned with how you spent the money then whether you actually flew, even an unflown flight is a valid business deduction. My point was that if IRS will take a home printed receipt as proof of the expense, then why wouldn't they require a passport stamp as evidence of you time out of country, rather than other records? Depending on your need, any record will probably do. In terms of a tax deduction, the IRS is usually more concerned about the expense then the actual trip, so a passport stamp would be of less value then a receipt. If you need to prove you spent a certain number of days in or out of the country, a boarder stamp is far more likely to be convincing that you actually traveled, rather then simply purchased transportation. |
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under what circumstances do us passports get us stamps?
Rightly or wrongly, most people will accept something official from a
government office as more "genuine" or having more "mana" than something from a private comnpany. Thus a state-issued I.D. which can be easily obtained with false documents is far more accepted than say a security pass from a defence contractor for which the person was vetted sixteen ways, had a polygraph and maybe an FBI background check. People just "feel' trusting of one from the government...but even then, if it's unusual they get edgy: I show my official credentials from my agency and get funny looks and intent scrutiny...I whiip out a drvier's license for a state on the far end of the continent and they just glance at it. Jim P. (Sort of how TSA looks at your I.D. like someone appraising a diamond...they are looking to see if it's altered..it could be bogus as hell but so long as it isn't altered and looks real, why they are as happy as a clam. You could show them a passport for the (not a real country) Conch Republic and so long as it hasn't been altered they'll probably smile and wave you onto the airplane.) On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:59:53 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote: In message mrtravel wrote: DevilsPGD wrote: In message mrtravel wrote: DevilsPGD wrote: In message mrtravel wrote: I assumed by by the desire to have proof that you weren't a US citizen. Why would a US citizen need proof of when they entered the US? I'm Canadian, but my travel insurance is based on consecutive days out of the country. I have been advised by my insurance company that if I have back to back trips out of the country but touch Canada in the middle, to ensure I retain proof that I entered the country. A passport stamp is one such method. I can imagine other cases where you may need to prove when you entered or exited your own country, taxes come to mind. I travel to the US a dozen times a year, and have been doing so for several years, I've been stamped once. I've never requested it. Wouldn't documentation from an airline be sufficient? What documentation? I can print receipts for a flight, and even the boarding pass at home. I can print hotel, charity, and other deduction/expense receipts at home too, what's your point? My point is that paying for a flight and printing a receipt and boarding pass is not the same thing as actually taking the flight, especially not when dealing with insurance, gov't for tax purposes, or similar. For my most recent flight, I used an entirely electronic boarding pass, absolutely no paper was generated at all, save for the luggage tag, and only that because I wanted to bring more shampoo then would fit in a baggie. I have nothing that would be considered proof of travel for an insurance company. A stamp on a passport may not actually be much harder to forge, but they're more or less considered trusted. |
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In message mrtravel
wrote: wrote: (Sort of how TSA looks at your I.D. like someone appraising a diamond...they are looking to see if it's altered..it could be bogus as hell but so long as it isn't altered and looks real, The ID can be a real as it needs to be. The boarding pass is much easier to fake. When you book the reservation your name is checked against the no fly list. This isn't something that is checked at the security checkpoint for a domestic flight, so people on the no fly list can easily get through security. Why even bother with fake ID? http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19...ist/index.html | Denise Robinson says she tells the skycaps her son is on the list, |tips heavily and is given boarding passes. And booking her son as |"J. Pierce Robinson" also has let the family bypass the watch list hassle. Seriously. Some random kid's name is on the no-fly list, and mom has figured out how to get around it without any pain at all. Good thing terrorists don't have access to using initials. |
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