AA 1586 LAX-YYX: blown tire. Emergency landing at LAX

AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

CNN entertainment network is carrying the story.

John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

Landed safely at 12:52 local LAX time.

"John Doe" wrote in message
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John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

Landed safely at 12:52 local LAX time.

I'm wondering what the rule id for burning off fuel. On my flight from ORD
to IAH last Friday, we took off, and the landing gear jammed. We just
circled around and landed again. We were in the air for a total of about 45
minutes.

"John Doe" wrote in message
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John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

Landed safely at 12:52 local LAX time.

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"Jim Davis" wrote in message
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"John Doe" wrote in message
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John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

Landed safely at 12:52 local LAX time.

I'm wondering what the rule id for burning off fuel. On my flight from
ORD to IAH last Friday, we took off, and the landing gear jammed. We just
circled around and landed again. We were in the air for a total of about
45 minutes.

It's generally not a concern with fuel per se, but the maximum
weight at take off quite often exceeds the maximum landing
weight, so you burn off fuel until you get down below the limit.
Of course, if it were truly a get-this-thing-back-on-the-ground-
soonest sort of emergency, they'd go ahead and do that and
to hell with the weight limits - but you don't do that unless you
have to.

Bob M.

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John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

Landed safely at 12:52 local LAX time.

I'm wondering what the rule id for burning off fuel. On my flight from ORD
to IAH last Friday, we took off, and the landing gear jammed. We just
circled around and landed again. We were in the air for a total of about 45
minutes.


A blown tire may be different then landing gear which won't retract in
terms of landing weight, stability, and odds of catastrophic failure.

The big thing though, is that even under ideal circumstances, maximum
take-off weight is likely higher then the maximum landing weight, so the
difference in weight must be handled. Since passengers would complain
if they and their cargo were unloaded before landing, fuel is the
easiest solution.

John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

CNN entertainment network is carrying the story.

This isn't that uncommon. Must be a slow news day.

Jim Davis wrote:

I'm wondering what the rule id for burning off fuel. On my flight from ORD
to IAH last Friday, we took off, and the landing gear jammed. We just
circled around and landed again. We were in the air for a total of about 45
minutes.

Depends on how much fuel had been loaded on the plane (and how much
cargo/passengers). If it was for a short haul, the plane likely wouldn't
have full tanks and might be able to land right away because its total
weight would be below the allowable langing weight.

But for LAX-Toronto, this would be a fair distance for a 737 and likely
that its tanks were nearly full.

On a 737 (considering it doesn't have landing gear doors for the main
gears), would it have hurt to retract the gear with a possibly blown
tire and then continue to Toronto and make the dangerous landing there
with low fuel, instead of circling around for 3 hours going nowhere at
LAX ?

John Doe wrote:
Jim Davis wrote:


I'm wondering what the rule id for burning off fuel. On my flight from ORD
to IAH last Friday, we took off, and the landing gear jammed. We just
circled around and landed again. We were in the air for a total of about 45
minutes.


Depends on how much fuel had been loaded on the plane (and how much
cargo/passengers). If it was for a short haul, the plane likely wouldn't
have full tanks and might be able to land right away because its total
weight would be below the allowable langing weight.

But for LAX-Toronto, this would be a fair distance for a 737 and likely
that its tanks were nearly full.

On a 737 (considering it doesn't have landing gear doors for the main
gears), would it have hurt to retract the gear with a possibly blown
tire and then continue to Toronto and make the dangerous landing there
with low fuel, instead of circling around for 3 hours going nowhere at
LAX ?

Don't AA have a big maintenance facility at LAX?

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John Doe wrote:
AA 1586 from LAX to Toronto blew a tire on take off. Currently circling
LAX to burn fuel and will attempt emergency landing at LAX.

Landed safely at 12:52 local LAX time.

I'm wondering what the rule id for burning off fuel. On my flight from
ORD to IAH last Friday, we took off, and the landing gear jammed. We
just circled around and landed again. We were in the air for a total of
about 45 minutes.

It's generally not a concern with fuel per se, but the maximum
weight at take off quite often exceeds the maximum landing
weight, so you burn off fuel until you get down below the limit.
Of course, if it were truly a get-this-thing-back-on-the-ground-
soonest sort of emergency, they'd go ahead and do that and
to hell with the weight limits - but you don't do that unless you
have to.

Bob M.


A few years ago on a return flight from SJU, shortly after takeoff, there
was smoke in the galley. We
have an emergency "heavy" landing with this NW Airbus 320. It ends up that
it was the pizza oven causing
the cardboard pizza to start burning..Looks like they cook like my wife!!

Joe