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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:26 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:

"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:


Craig Welch wrote:


One can be a Permanent Resident of more than one country, as Permanent
Resident is a *legal status*, not an indication of where you are on any
given day.


We've covered that point!

And you still can't seem to understand it




You regularly fail to define whether you're refering to the US (legal)
term(s) or the dictionary definitions.
The fall-back assumption must be that you are using the dictionary
definitions of the words 'permanent resident'.


I thought we were talking about legal restrictions, so I think the legal
definitions would be the ones that matter. For a moment, forget the
equivalent terms "green card holder" and "permanent resident. I am sure
you would also be just as confused with "Resident Alien"
The law cited actually refers to "Resident Alien".


Let's get this straight - when you were talking about "Permanent
Resident" you actually meant permanent resident???
Or did you actually mean "Resident Alien" like the funny little guy with
the bicycle in one of those Hollywood films?


I quoted the section on jurisdiction that includes "Resident Aliens" as
falling under the jurisdiction of the CFR that was cited. If you want
the legal definition of the term, it is listed elsewhere in the
document. That is where you would look it up, not in the dictionary.


Any time you make the distinction between US legal status and dictionary
definition I read it as such. Otherwise I go with the dictionary
definition.

A couple of posts back you used the US legal term and/or the dictionary
definition three times in one sentence to explain something. I have a
suspicion your explanation wandered from reality.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:26 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:


What happens when the foreign tax is higher than the US tax level.


You wouldn't owe US tax.


"some credits" doesn't indicate that.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:28 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:

"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:


Yes, Craig, that's telling me that the US taxes US citizens and US PRs
on moneys earned outside the US, particularly "... and there are also
some credits for foreign taxes paid. "

No, you still don't get it.

From my understanding of this, but it was a few years ago when I was
thinking about transferring to Brussels, so research it if you really
want the info.

If the foreign tax rate is higher than the US rate, no additional tax
will be due.

IF the foreign rate is lower than the US rate, you would pay
(approximatelly) the difference up to the US rate, after deducting the
excluded income amount.



So when you said "some credits" you meant "full credits"?


No, I meant some credits.
There is not just one credit you could obtain
It is possible you might have more tax credits than you would owe in
taxes. In some cases, this would give you a refund that is higher than
the taxes paid.

If you have additional question go to irs.gov or your nearest US tax
specialist. I am sure there is at least one in nz



US tax specialist? With the number of yanks seeking asylum here I'm sure
there are oodles of them.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:46 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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Greg Procter wrote:

I'm sure no-one cares that you have your own weird and non-standard
measurements, just give them unique names and stop pretending that they
are proper imperial measures.


This is interesting, coming from a person in a country without a
currency called "dollar" until 1967. Since the Kiwi dollar is worth less
than a US dollar, do you think NZ is short changing people?


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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:53 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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Greg Procter wrote:

"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:


"Mr. Travel" wrote:


Greg Procter wrote:


Yes, I've done that - you're effectively saying that a person can be a
permanent resident in two countries at once. That's obviously not
possible, and it has nothing at all to any distinction between the term
and the words.

It has to do with how countries define the term, not the dictionary.


If it's a "term" then you write it capitalized or within quotation
marks, so that it is not confused with the dictionary meaning. This
isn't rocket science.
You could alternatively write "(has) permanent ressidence status".


You sometimes write the abbreviation for NZ in lower case.



I probably had a tired finger that day, or I was using the other hand to
keep the cat off the keyboard - did you get all confused between the
nation and the Urdu word for 'golden dung beetle'?


You seem to be confused, despite previously explaining it, there is no
difference in meaning whether I type "permaent resident" or "Permanent
Resident". if I am discussing immigration status. You seem confused by
this, but we are not confused by meaning when you type "nz"
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:55 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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Greg Procter wrote:

"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:


What happens when the foreign tax is higher than the US tax level.


You wouldn't owe US tax.



"some credits" doesn't indicate that.


It is also possible you would get money back from the government than
you paid in taxes, but I didn't indicate that either. I left it at "some
credits"

Do you want me to write an FAQ for the entire US Tax Code?
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:58 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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Greg Procter wrote:

US tax specialist? With the number of yanks seeking asylum here I'm sure
there are oodles of them.


I was under the impression you might live in an asylum.
If they have computers with free internet access at the K-Marts,
putting them in asylums isn't an impossible task.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 08:14 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa,nz.politics
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Larry in AZ wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, "Mr. Travel" said:

Greg Procter wrote:


What happens when the foreign tax is higher than the US tax level.


You wouldn't owe US tax.


What's this ... the fourth time you've told him that..?



Larry, old idiot, Mr Travel can spout irrelevant nonsense as many times
as he likes, it's still irrelevant.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 08:15 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa,nz.politics
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Larry in AZ wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, "Mr. Travel" said:

Greg Procter wrote:
"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:


"Mr. Travel" wrote:


Greg Procter wrote:


Well, K-mart wasn't active in New Zealand pre-1970. I would guess,
based on the fact that a K-mart opened about 2km from my then home
around 1993-4 that they started in NZ about 1991-2. At that time
they could not have sold "quarts" of oil. As to what is "relevant",
you've consistantly come out of 'left-field' or 'cloud-cuckoo-land'
with what you consider to be relevant, so I need to cover all the
bases. At this stage, based on your past efforts I fully expect you
to start an argument about the number of carats I claim to be in a
chaldron!

Whether K-Mart existed in NZ pre-1970 has NOTHING to do with you
understanding approximately what a quart of oil is. The imperial
quart and US quart are close enough in size for you determine I was
referring to a small quanity of oil.



Well the US measure is short change - typical of cheating yanks.

So, NZ short changes it's citizens by using narrow gauge tracks.



Nahh, they're standard here.


Just as the US gallon is standard here.

See, no one is getting short changed.


Groggy as only half a brain.



Sure, that's all I could extract from your skull.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 08:18 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.nuke.the.usa
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"Mr. Travel" wrote:

Greg Procter wrote:

I'm sure no-one cares that you have your own weird and non-standard
measurements, just give them unique names and stop pretending that they
are proper imperial measures.


This is interesting, coming from a person in a country without a
currency called "dollar" until 1967. Since the Kiwi dollar is worth less
than a US dollar, do you think NZ is short changing people?



You're surely not mistaking the NZ Dollar for the US dollar??? Ours has
just one line through it ($)
Five years ago our dollar was worth US 49c, now it's US78-80c. I guess
by the end of the year they will be equal.
 




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