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Old June 13th, 2005, 02:50 PM
Graeme Miller
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Default "Ciao" - acceptable or what?

Conversational Italian now...

The older language tapes suggest that "Ciao" is only for use between friends
of if you're talking to children. The more modern BBC late night programmes
sprinkle the greeting around quite liberally as if its got the same status
as "Hi" in English.

Lots of perfect strangers say "Hi" to each other in the English speaking
world, but would an Italian I don't know be affronted if I said "Ciao" to
them on first meeting?



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Old June 13th, 2005, 08:23 PM
tile
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Ciao would be used among young people or among people that are well
acquainted with each other.
It would be funny to use it with people that you do not know or older than
you are.
"Graeme Miller" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Conversational Italian now...

The older language tapes suggest that "Ciao" is only for use between
friends
of if you're talking to children. The more modern BBC late night
programmes
sprinkle the greeting around quite liberally as if its got the same status
as "Hi" in English.

Lots of perfect strangers say "Hi" to each other in the English speaking
world, but would an Italian I don't know be affronted if I said "Ciao" to
them on first meeting?





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Old June 13th, 2005, 08:35 PM
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An easy solution is "salve" wihich is more formal than "ciao" and less
formal than "Buongiorno" etc.
"Ciao" is fine in an equal status situation like friend/friend or same
age relationship, but it would be a little strange in a situation like
shop assistant/customer or in case of age gap, whereas "salve" passes
in almost all cases.
Try "salve" and see how it goes.
Peace
Cris

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Old June 14th, 2005, 12:06 AM
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John Bermont ha scritto
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How do you pronounce "salve?"


SAL' - vay

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Old June 14th, 2005, 02:37 AM
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ElaineBenes wrote:
John Bermont ha scritto
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How do you pronounce "salve?"



SAL' - vay



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Old June 14th, 2005, 06:02 AM
tile
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i have never used salve in my life..
Buongiorno or Buonasera is the greeting..
when you part from somebody use

arrivederci..
ha scritto nel messaggio
ps.com...
An easy solution is "salve" wihich is more formal than "ciao" and less
formal than "Buongiorno" etc.
"Ciao" is fine in an equal status situation like friend/friend or same
age relationship, but it would be a little strange in a situation like
shop assistant/customer or in case of age gap, whereas "salve" passes
in almost all cases.
Try "salve" and see how it goes.
Peace
Cris



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Old July 5th, 2005, 09:53 AM
B Vaughan
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:02:58 GMT, "tile" wrote:

i have never used salve in my life..


Many other Italians use it liberally, especially when they can't
decide whether "ciao" or "buon giorno" would be more appropriate, or
when they want to avoid being too informal yet don't want to feel
servile. (For instance employees to their boss.)

"Arrivederci" is likewise neutral in formality.

Buongiorno or Buonasera is the greeting..
when you part from somebody use

arrivederci..
ha scritto nel messaggio
ups.com...
An easy solution is "salve" wihich is more formal than "ciao" and less
formal than "Buongiorno" etc.
"Ciao" is fine in an equal status situation like friend/friend or same
age relationship, but it would be a little strange in a situation like
shop assistant/customer or in case of age gap, whereas "salve" passes
in almost all cases.
Try "salve" and see how it goes.
Peace
Cris



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Old July 6th, 2005, 02:04 AM
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In ,
B Vaughan typed:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:02:58 GMT, "tile"
wrote:

i have never used salve in my life..


Many other Italians use it liberally, especially when they
can't
decide whether "ciao" or "buon giorno" would be more
appropriate, or
when they want to avoid being too informal yet don't want to
feel
servile. (For instance employees to their boss.)

"Arrivederci" is likewise neutral in formality.



Barbara, how about "arrivederla"? Am I right that it's more
formal than "arrivederci" and used less frequently?


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Old June 14th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Graeme Miller
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"tile" wrote in message
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Ciao would be used among young people or among people that are well
acquainted with each other.
It would be funny to use it with people that you do not know or older than
you are.


Thanks.

So, ageism is built-in! Oh dear, Well I'm 50 this year, so I guess that
means I should act my age and stick with 'Buon Giorno'. But on the other
hand, from what you say I'll get loads of respect from the younger folk. ;-)


 




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