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donovan enjoys having the evleths bundled against him
"Donna Evleth" a écrit dans le message de ... From: "PJ O'Donovan" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,rec.travel.europe Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:17:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7914542.stm Mentality of the European??? You are talking about one Irish budget airline. Us ground-bound folks here in Europe would have to hunt long and hard to find a pay toilet. It's amazing how much you think you know about Europe speaking from small town Georgia. Donna Evleth |
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That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfacesagain. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee
From: "P J O'donovan" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,rec.travel.europe Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:48:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee Should I copy/paste more of those posts to usenet and respnses to our "pay to pee" experiences in Europe way back then, Ms Donna? "Way back then" are the operative words here, Mr. O'Donovan. We are not in 2004 anymore. Nor is France Austria. And I have already talked about people now picking up after their dogs here. You persist in believing that your experience is the only experience. Donna Evleth Donna Evleth |
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That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfacesagain. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee
From: "P J O'donovan" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,rec.travel.europe Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee Pay toilets are not uncommon in Europe. Paris, in particular, makes heavy use of them; the streets of the city are forested with self- cleaning, coin-op booths (landmarks like Sacre-Coeur generally have several). Riders on the Metro may encounter coin-op toilets in the underground stations; and even non-mechanized toilets occasionally have attendants who expect tips...." Okay, I give up. I just haven't seen any for a very long time. I must not go to the right places, not being a tourist. I certainly have not seen them on the freeways. Donna Evleth |
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That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee
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Donna Evleth wrote: Pay toilets are not uncommon in Europe. Paris, in particular, makes heavy use of them; the streets of the city are forested with self- cleaning, coin-op booths (landmarks like Sacre-Coeur generally have several). Poor ****head O'Donovan gets it wrong again. The 'pay toilets' he mentions in Paris, are in fact free. Y. -- Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein | 'gu-ay hey lihyote yehoudi' 'AADP's Left-Wing Jewish Intellectual' Zionist and Fiercely Proud of That Fact Long Live Israel! http://minilien.fr/a0k7p5 |
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That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfacesagain. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee
The truth is you don't go out of the sanitized richer places where all the
anglos congegate. So you don't know much of the country where you took refuge. "Donna Evleth" a écrit dans le message de ... From: "P J O'donovan" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,rec.travel.europe Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee Pay toilets are not uncommon in Europe. Paris, in particular, makes heavy use of them; the streets of the city are forested with self- cleaning, coin-op booths (landmarks like Sacre-Coeur generally have several). Riders on the Metro may encounter coin-op toilets in the underground stations; and even non-mechanized toilets occasionally have attendants who expect tips...." Okay, I give up. I just haven't seen any for a very long time. I must not go to the right places, not being a tourist. I certainly have not seen them on the freeways. Donna Evleth |
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What is your problem, anyway?
What is the problem with a pay to use the toilet system anyway? It creates
jobs, keeps public toilets clean, provides a necessary service, and eliminates time-wasting hunts for other toilets. People who use these facilities do not have to slink into a department store or a restaurant trying to look unobtrusive while seeking the toilet. In fact, most of Europe is ahead of the U.S. in this respect of providing easily available toilet facilities. When I visited Ireland in 2005, the public toilets in Ennis were a godsend. There I was, in an unfamiliar city and not knowing where to find a toilet until I saw the public ones. Thank you, citizens of Ennis! PatTX |
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The idiot is now a racist bigot, too.
Jean O'Boyle wrote:
:: :: And just think about it, Pat...why are the Hispanics voting for :: Obama? What has been promised to the illegals who are in this :: country by the Democratic party? They are getting drivers licenses :: and using them to vote. I've worked at a voting place and you would :: be amazed at how many try to vote illegally...Who floods the :: hospitals here in Texas to get free medical care because things are :: so bad in Mexico?...How many pregnant women flee over the border to :: have their babies here at tax payer expense so that they can :: automatically become US citizens? Look at California...the state has :: gone bankrupt because of this...Same is happening in "sanctuary :: cities" all over the US. :: It's not the matter of what party is losing or winning...it's what is :: happening in this country...so many not wanting to work but get a :: free meal...work ethic has gone out the window. It's more profitable :: to be lazy, stay at home, and get on the welfare rolls than to go to :: work. :: :: --Jean Are you ready to go on record as claiming to be a bigot and racist? I would just like to know. Your post is so full of inaccuracies, not the leasst of which is blaming everything and anything on illegal Hispanic immigrants. So, let's have it: Are you a bigot and racist? Pat in TX |
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That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfacesagain. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee
Donna Evleth wrote:
From: "P J O'donovan" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,rec.travel.europe Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee Pay toilets are not uncommon in Europe. Paris, in particular, makes heavy use of them; the streets of the city are forested with self- cleaning, coin-op booths (landmarks like Sacre-Coeur generally have several). Riders on the Metro may encounter coin-op toilets in the underground stations; and even non-mechanized toilets occasionally have attendants who expect tips...." Okay, I give up. I just haven't seen any for a very long time. I must not go to the right places, not being a tourist. I certainly have not seen them on the freeways. Donna Evleth What on earth are you on about? I live in the UK and a small amount of public toilets (in council-run places such as markets) are free but the vast majority of public toilets need money to gain entry. Every year for the last 16 years, our main summer holiday (vacation for our american cousins) has seen us leave our home in the north-west of England, jump on a ferry Dover - Calais, drive up the coast to Oostende, and then follow a route that takes us through Belgium, Germany and on to the final destinations of Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia, where we tour around for about 4 weeks before returning home again. Almost *all* of the public toilets on the motorways/autobahns/highways/freeways or whatever you want to call them, throughout the entire route, make you pay to use them - as do the majority of public toilets in the towns we stay in or pass through, and have done so for the last 16 years that we know of. |
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Once again, PJ proves he's an idiot
PatTX wrote: PJ O'Donovan wrote: :: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free :: health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee :: There are so many things wrong with those two sentences that I wouldn't know where to begin. Do you not think that the "free" health care is not paid from their taxes? Indeed! It was the fact that Medicare does not cover Americans overseas, and that there are thus no reciprocal agreements between the U.S. and countries with universal medical care (therefore I had not "paid my dues" while employed) that prevented my trying to retire to Vienna or Paris. (I have a fair aptitude for languages, so the fact I am not fluent in either German or French didn't bother me - I knew I'd learn quickly enough, living where I was expected to speak it daily, so that was really not a deterrent.) Of course, that was a few years before the Dollar began its catastrophic slide (my retirement income is all in U.S. funds) so the main factor for remaining in the U.S. was medical care costs. |
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That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again.Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee
Donna Evleth wrote: From: "P J O'donovan" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,rec.travel.europe Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: That oxymoron in the mentality of the European surfaces again. Free health care is an innate right but one must pay to pee Pay toilets are not uncommon in Europe. Paris, in particular, makes heavy use of them; the streets of the city are forested with self- cleaning, coin-op booths (landmarks like Sacre-Coeur generally have several). Riders on the Metro may encounter coin-op toilets in the underground stations; and even non-mechanized toilets occasionally have attendants who expect tips...." Okay, I give up. I just haven't seen any for a very long time. I must not go to the right places, not being a tourist. I certainly have not seen them on the freeways. Donna Evleth I certainly have not seen them in restaurants, nor in museums and concert halls! (It's true the latter often have a woman "attendant" with a prominently displayed saucer containing money - a hint that "donations" are welcome - but only with a tour group in Budapest did I encounter a public lavatory that asked for money. (That was in Hero's Square, and what one actually PAID for was a length of toilet tissue - since I generally carry my own, in case of shortages, I chose not to pay.) Actually, I've encountered more coin-operated public loos in the U.S. than abroad. |
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