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Christmas Markets (2009)
Trying to pick which city or two...open to suggestions:
Munich Nuremberg Salzburg, Austria. Been to this sort of venue before (Koln, Trier, Bamburg, etc) .. want to try a different region. Open to other places as well...the above is merely the current short list. Would hopefully be geographically nearby, to minimize relative travel times between. -hh |
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Christmas Markets (2009)
aLL OF THEM ARE WORTHWHILE AND YOU WOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN CHOOSING ANY OF
THEM. NURNBERG IS THE MOST FAMOUS. "-hh" a écrit dans le message de ... Trying to pick which city or two...open to suggestions: Munich Nuremberg Salzburg, Austria. Been to this sort of venue before (Koln, Trier, Bamburg, etc) .. want to try a different region. Open to other places as well...the above is merely the current short list. Would hopefully be geographically nearby, to minimize relative travel times between. -hh |
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On Oct 5, 4:13*am, -hh wrote:
Trying to pick which city or two...open to suggestions: Munich Nuremberg Salzburg, Austria. Been to this sort of venue before (Koln, Trier, Bamburg, etc) *.. want to try a different region. Open to other places as well...the above is merely the current short list. *Would hopefully be geographically nearby, to minimize relative travel times between. -hh Stuttgart ( www.stuttgart-tourist.de ) has one of Europe's largest, oldest, most visited and most beautiful Christmas Markets ( www.stuttgarter-weihnachtsmarkt.de only in German). All the stalls are highly decorated and the setting is lovely by the Old Palace, New Palace and Stiftskirche (old church). It take up many contiguous squares and streets in the center of town, and has about twice the number of visitors as Nuremberg's. Then there is the World Christmas Circus ( www.weltweihnachtscircus.de ) with famous circus acts from throughout the world. There's lots of other things to do in Stuttgart including the excellent museums (Stuttgart is where the automobile was invented, and has the Mercedes Benz and Porsche Museums), three large mineral baths associated with western Europe's largest mineral waters, Wilhelma ( www.wilhelma.de ) which is Europe's largest combined zoo- botanical garden, the world's first modern TV tower, world-reknown ballet, excellent opera, many musical performances many of which will be seasonally related, etc. 15 minutes away by S-bahn are two other large themed Christmas markets: Esslingen ( www.esslingen.de ) Medieval & Christmas Market set in the well preserved medieval center of this town particularly nice at night when lit up by torches; and Ludwigsburg ( www.ludwigsburg.de ) Baroque Christmas Market in this Baroque town set near Germany's largest perfectly preserved Baroque palace (in www.schloesser-und-gaerten.de ), the Swabian Versailles, with several days' worth of things to see and do. Although Stuttgart has excellent shopping, there is also Metzingen ( www.metzingen.de ) nearby, which has Germany's most factory outlets for some inexpensive shopping. By visiting Stuttgart, you get three excellent large Christmas markets that are different from one another. Stuttgart is a hub for several airlines such as GermanWings ( www.germanwings.com ), TUIfly ( www.tuifly.com ), and AirBerlin ( www.airberlin.com ). |
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"-hh" wrote in message ... Trying to pick which city or two...open to suggestions: Munich Nuremberg Salzburg, Austria. Been to this sort of venue before (Koln, Trier, Bamburg, etc) .. want to try a different region. Open to other places as well...the above is merely the current short list. Would hopefully be geographically nearby, to minimize relative travel times between. -hh Typical = http://www.christmasmarkettours.com/ City comparisons: http://www.travelandleisure.com/slid...ts-in-europe/1 so for Dresden : "Look For: The best crafts Germany has to offer." Here's Munich info: http://www.travelandleisure.com/slid...ts-in-europe/5 Not sure if you're a visitor or a local / want to do it to "buy stuff" or the atmosphere, but if you want to be driven around, we've done the Christmas Markets tour down the Romantic road with DER tours. I'm sure local companies do the same thing. Yeah it's only 5-6 hours in each place, but was very nice way to see the most. As part of the escorted tour we stayed a week in Berlin prior and a few days in Munich after the tour. I thought Berlin markets better than Munich. The Marienplatz square in Munich is nice but if you're gonna stay a few days/week it's the same everyday. Berlin had many different areas. Also, if you DO stay in Munich, with several churches nearby - ringing bells on the hour, it is noisy if you stay near Marienplatz. At 23:00 / midnight you'll here 22 ,24 BONG - BONGs - so if a light sleeper be aware. |
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Christmas Markets (2009)
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-hh wrote: Trying to pick which city or two...open to suggestions: Munich Nuremberg Salzburg, Austria. Been to this sort of venue before (Koln, Trier, Bamburg, etc) *.. want to try a different region. Open to other places as well...the above is merely the current short list. *Would hopefully be geographically nearby, to minimize relative travel times between. Stuttgart (www.stuttgart-tourist.de) has one of Europe's largest, oldest, most visited and most beautiful Christmas Markets ...* and has about twice the number of visitors as Nuremberg's....* Interesting point, as part of the reason why Nuremberg is on the list is because of its "famous" reputation. There's lots of other things to do in Stuttgart including the excellent museums (Stuttgart is where the automobile was invented, and has the Mercedes Benz and Porsche Museums)... I've been thinking about Stuttgart ... the MB Museum is great (which my wife hasn't seen) and the Porsche Museum has opened since my last visit there (which happened to be during a fall wine festival). Of course, the ideal Holiday gift to bring home would be from one of those car factories ...or better yet, one from each :-) 15 minutes away by S-bahn are two other large themed Christmas markets: Esslingen (www.esslingen.de) Medieval & Christmas Market set in the well preserved medieval center of this town particularly nice at night when lit up by torches; and Ludwigsburg (www.ludwigsburg.de) Baroque Christmas Market in this Baroque town set near Germany's largest perfectly preserved Baroque palace (inwww.schloesser-und-gaerten.de), the Swabian Versailles, with several days' worth of things to see and do. Interesting...I'll have to track these down. FWIW, part of the reason why Salzburg was on the list was because that region's other items ... Lake Konigsee's chapel of St. Bartholomew, and other things that I've seen, but that the Mrs has not: http://www.huntzinger.com/photo/2007/germany/ konigssee_st_bartholomew5977.jpg -hh |
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote in post :
: which happened to be during a fall wine festival Ah, the Weindorf. I remember it. Vaguely. :-) -- Tim C. |
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On Oct 5, 5:36*pm, "tim...." wrote:
----snipped---------------- But there are visitors and visitors. Nuremberg *is full of "foreigners" visiting the Market. *The Stuttgart figures are probably made up of the locals visiting 30 times each. When I went Nuremberg the market was completely full. *It would have been absolutely impossible to get any more people in the main square, so I don't see that raw numbers matter Let's see, I believe that it's about 3,600 buses full of people that come to the Christmas Market every year in Stuttgart. Many of the visitors are from all parts of Switzerland, lots from Austria, France and Italy also. Stuttgart is very popular because of the excellence of the Christmas Market coupled with less expensive good shopping for some of these countries. Large numbers of people willing to board a bus at 3-4AM in the morning for a very long day trip speaks about the quality of the Stuttgart Market. Now you're also saying that the Nuremberg Christmas Market is more crowded than Stuttgart's, which I can believe although Stuttgart gets about twice the number of visitors, as Stuttgart's is spread over a good part of the center of town and not just a few more limited areas. Last year I deliberately visited at peak times in Stuttgart to see how bad the crowding could get, and was able to move about the market freely which is a change from a few years ago when it was still possible to get trapped in the center of it, especially on the Marktplatz in front of the Rathaus. I believe that they achieved this by removing some stalls, but most remains. |
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So ?
"Tim C." a écrit dans le message de news On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote in post : : which happened to be during a fall wine festival Ah, the Weindorf. I remember it. Vaguely. :-) -- Tim C. |
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:36:46 +0100, tim.... wrote in post :
: But there are visitors and visitors. Nuremberg is full of "foreigners" visiting the Market. The Stuttgart figures are probably made up of the locals visiting 30 times each. In much the same way as the Munich Oktoberfest is "full" of foreigners while the Cannstatter Wasen (Stuttgart) equivalent may be smaller but is more "German" and "authentic". -- Tim C. |
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Tim C. wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:36:46 +0100, tim.... wrote in post : : But there are visitors and visitors. Nuremberg is full of "foreigners" visiting the Market. The Stuttgart figures are probably made up of the locals visiting 30 times each. In much the same way as the Munich Oktoberfest is "full" of foreigners while the Cannstatter Wasen (Stuttgart) equivalent may be smaller but is more "German" and "authentic". A bar a few minutes walk from where I teach serves an excellent selection of German beers on tap and bottled, so I just go there. Had a Paulaner Salvator earlier today for the first time. hic... -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009) |
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