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Old August 22nd, 2004, 09:17 PM
Jim
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:35:20 -0400, Howie
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The post above has sparked an entrepreneurial idea. Wouldn't it be cool
if one the the HAL ships that is registered in the Netherlands, were to
offer a marijuana lounge on board when on the open sea.

Howie



Do you *really* want DEA to board every ship when it reaches the U.S.?


Opinions as to marijuama being harmfuil or not or whatever aside,
there's no way the U.S. would allow such a ship to dock. Never mind
that fact that there's few and far between coutnries that are as
tolerant as Holland about this.

But I suppose itineraries wouldn't matter...participants would not
notice they had only gone out to sea three miles and come back:

"Say dude, this place looks just like home." "Yeah, really cool of
them to fix it up so we'd feel like we never left."

Jim P.
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Old August 23rd, 2004, 01:47 PM
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Jim wrote in
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:35:20 -0400, Howie
wrote:

The post above has sparked an entrepreneurial idea.
Wouldn't it be cool if one the the HAL ships that is
registered in the Netherlands, were to offer a marijuana
lounge on board when on the open sea.

Howie



Do you *really* want DEA to board every ship when it reaches
the U.S.?


Opinions as to marijuama being harmfuil or not or whatever
aside, there's no way the U.S. would allow such a ship to
dock. Never mind that fact that there's few and far between
coutnries that are as tolerant as Holland about this.

But I suppose itineraries wouldn't matter...participants
would not notice they had only gone out to sea three miles
and come back:

"Say dude, this place looks just like home." "Yeah, really
cool of them to fix it up so we'd feel like we never left."

Jim P.


Territorial limit is 12 NM not 3. Changed a long time ago.
Limited control out to 70 NM (pollution control) and Economic
explotation (minerals and fish) to 200 NM.

Right to stop and search a ship is restricted.
If the vessel is owned by a government the US is not allowed to
search it; even if within US territorial limits. The most they
can do is demand that the ship leave US waters (weather and
seaworthyness permitting).
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Old August 24th, 2004, 03:50 AM
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Territorial limit is 12 NM not 3. Changed a long time ago.
Limited control out to 70 NM (pollution control) and Economic
explotation (minerals and fish) to 200 NM.

Right to stop and search a ship is restricted.
If the vessel is owned by a government the US is not allowed to
search it; even if within US territorial limits. The most they
can do is demand that the ship leave US waters (weather and
seaworthyness permitting).


However, they do have the right to stop and search a ship if it is headed
for a US port.

Tom Smith


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Old August 24th, 2004, 05:17 AM
Earl
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"Thomas Smith" -NO-SPAM wrote
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Territorial limit is 12 NM not 3. Changed a long time ago.
Limited control out to 70 NM (pollution control) and
Economic explotation (minerals and fish) to 200 NM.

Right to stop and search a ship is restricted.
If the vessel is owned by a government the US is not
allowed to search it; even if within US territorial limits.
The most they can do is demand that the ship leave US
waters (weather and seaworthyness permitting).


However, they do have the right to stop and search a ship if
it is headed for a US port.

Tom Smith




No, UN treaties specify that a government owned ship is not to
be searched.

They can deny entry, and demand that the ship leave US waters
(subject to traditional rights of safe harbor etc) but they are
not allowed to stop and search. If a government really wanted
to play games it could own/operate a hospital ship that provides
medical MJ to patients on board. All would be legal and the most
that could be demanded would be to up anchor and move to the 12
NM limit, where patients can visit with cabin cruisers. Customs
and Immigration for people returning to shore after visiting the
ship could be interesting however.

There are 3 classes of ships considered.

Naval vessels -- thou shalt not touch except with weapons, but
which are not to visit without prior permission

Government owned -- (oceanographic research, fishing research,
hospitals, etc) -- they are the equivilent of politicians and
diplomats. Free to come and go but may be expelled as persona
non gratia.

Civilians -- Heave to!!! bilateral treaties, UN treaties, and
when in doubt cite stopping for suspicion of engaging in the
African Slave Trade.
 




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