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Deceptive flight numbering by United Airlines (sham on them)!
Hey all
My wife has booked us a package deal through United Vacations to Hawaii. When first looking at our flight information it looks like we have a nonstop flight from Denver to Hawaii, but after doing some research to see if my wife really go us the best deal it becomes apparent that is not the case. Looks like we have to change planes in San Francisco. I think this is very deceptive and I have mind to call United an ear-full. My daughter tells me that many airlines do this all the time. I think, as these are two separate flights they should be numbered that way and not just UA77. Anyone else's thoughts on this very deceptive practice? Sam Smith |
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Deceptive flight numbering by United Airlines (sham on them)!
Hmmmm
Maybe your wife mistook "Direct" as "Non Stop" For the most part, trying to get the lowest price or "best deal" using packages involves a stop at an airlines Hub. Perhaps next time, you, and not your wife, need to do the travel planning and buying. One nice thing is that SFO is a pretty nice airport to hang out at. Try the Boudin Sourdough Bread there.(the best IMO) Pick some up and bring with you to Hawaii. United 43 is a nonstop from DEN to HNL. I didn't look to see if thats a seasonal or limited scheduled nonstop. Maybe United doesnt fly Nonstop on your day of travel. Who knows? |
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Deceptive flight numbering by United Airlines (sham on them)!
Hawaii. When first looking at our flight information it looks like we
have a nonstop flight from Denver to Hawaii ... I think, as these are two separate flights they should be numbered that way and not just UA77. Hmmn. On what date do you think you have a ticket from Denver on UA 77? I spot checked a bunch of dates between now and Christmas, and it only flies SFO-HNL. |
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When I did a spot check on United Vacations in January 08
This flight number popped up 77 when you click on the 77, this comes up Flight Details Denver to Hawaii, Oahu United Airlines 77 Flight#: United Airlines 77 Departs: Denver (DEN) 1:23 PM - 19 Jan '08 Arrives: Hawaii, Oahu (HNL) 7:46 PM - 19 Jan '08 Type: Change of Aircraft Enroute Class: T Meals: L Departure Terminal: Not Available Arrival Terminal: M Flight Duration: 08HR 21MIN Trip Duration: 09HR 20MIN Miles: 3351 Trip Miles: 4318 Hidden Stop: San Francisco (SFO) So It appears your wife didnt click on that. It clearly shows a change of aircraft @ SFO so u have an hour layover..not bad EasySchedule results Depart: Denver, CO (DEN) Arrive: Honolulu, HI (HNL) Distance: 3364mi / 5382km Duration: 9h23m Date: January 18, 2008 Printable Version Back Leg 1 - United Airlines 77 Departure Denver, CO (DEN) Departure Time 13:23 Arrival San Francisco, CA (SFO) Arrival Time 15:03 Aircraft Type 735 Meal No Meals Served Distance 966mi / 1545km Duration 2h40m Operated By United Airlines Leg 2 - United Airlines 77 Departure San Francisco, CA (SFO) Departure Time 16:05 Arrival Honolulu, HI (HNL) Arrival Time 19:46 Aircraft Type 763 Meal Food for Purchase Distance 2399mi / 3838km Duration 5h41m Operated By United Airlines |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:37:18 -0500, Nobody
wrote: wrote: apparent that is not the case. Looks like we have to change planes in San Francisco. I think this is very deceptive and I have mind to call There are a couple of advantages to having the multiple flights under a single number. If there is a snafu, United has greater responsability to accomodate you than if you had booked the trip on the same planes but with two separate flight numbers. From a marketing point of view, the USA airlines are very big on making their schedules compete to appear first on reservation systems, so the ability to market that denver-hawaii as a single flight increases the odds that someone would book it (and yes, this is deceptive advertising). From a capacity planning point of view, it allows UA to provide booking classes that are available to only those booking the den-hnl flight. Say UA wants to do a seat sale DEN-HNL with 20 available seats. It can put 20 seats in V class on the flight 77, and none on the actual real flights. This way, those flying DEN-SFO or SFO-HNL will not be eating up on the inventory of V seats reserved for DEN-HNL. The two legs might not even be truly on the same airline; one leg may be a code share flight. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Deceptive flight numbering by United Airlines (sham on them)!
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:09:40 -0700, Louis Krupp
wrote: wrote: Hey all My wife has booked us a package deal through United Vacations to Hawaii. When first looking at our flight information it looks like we have a nonstop flight from Denver to Hawaii, but after doing some research to see if my wife really go us the best deal it becomes apparent that is not the case. Looks like we have to change planes in San Francisco. I think this is very deceptive and I have mind to call United an ear-full. My daughter tells me that many airlines do this all the time. I think, as these are two separate flights they should be numbered that way and not just UA77. Anyone else's thoughts on this very deceptive practice? As others have said, it's direct, but it's not nonstop. Relax and enjoy your flight(s). The only possible problem is that when they issue frequent flier miles, you'll get credit for a hypothetical nonstop from Denver to Honolulu and not for the sum of the routes you actually flew. So if you're hoarding miles, plan accordingly... And keep your boarding passes |
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