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Qantas Web Fare Specials to Australia & NZ from US.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:11:07 +1000, Dave Proctor
wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:52:08 +0930, "Freda" wrote: Then perhaps you are NOT the right person for the job???????????????? I have been reading this group for about two years now - rarely contribute, but have been reading for that long - and have NEVER thought that Cath was the appropriate person. It's a free world and you are entitled to your opinion Dave. Rarely contribute? Dave, you have been quite a contributor over the past 3 years. Even before you started replying using "Whilst undoubtedly under the effects of alcohol" which I note you have now stopped using. As you have not been around since the ng's inception, the first RFD was made on 12/Sept/1995 by Bill Rogers, then you are not familiar with what happened to this newsgroup in the past and the reasons why this newsgroup lost so many excellent contributors. If you want to change the wording of the Charter/FAQ, then you are welcome to go through the Usenet protocol to do enable a vote to be taken. Don't forget, some people have to pay to receive Usenet! Usenet is *not* the internet. If I had to pay additional charges to receive Usenet, you bet I'd be a pretty peeved off person if I was having to download advertising! Earlier this year, there was a query about how I became Keeper of the Charter/FAQ, which I answered publicly on the newsgroup. I have checked that thread and do not find any objections from you. I can recall another instance earlier this year when you had every opportunity to voice your opinions against me but you did not bother to do so. You do not realise just the diversity of the email I receive from people who lurk on this newsgrup. In most cases, I can only guide them to either watchng the threads, posting to the ng, finding an archived thread that may be of interest to them or sometimes, I post a request on their behalf. I have been [pleasantly] surprised at the number of 'lurker's of this group. I would NOT hestitate to do what we did in the above case if a similar posting appeared again. Frankly I don't give a dam what you think of me, publicly or privately. I doubt if you would likely find, in your eyes, anyone would be appropriate. Try and be a little less pedantic and be lighter in your assessing. Anyway, this is not a moderated group. Sure, she can forward complaints to ISP's, but considering the level of disagreement that this thread has generated, it is clear there is no consensus as to where the line should be drawn, and any such complaints will be dismissed. Dave The first RFD posted on 12 Sept 1995 clearly stated: "All advertising is inappropriate and should be directed to the group rec.travel.marketplace." which is still in force to this day. Again, if you wish to have the wording changed, then you are welcome to go for it. Usually, one or two adverts get overlooked however when someone continues or there is a blantant disregard for Usenet ie: posted/spammed to several ng's, then it is a different matter. Believe me, ISP's *do* take Usenet abuse whether it be a posting on the newsgroup or an email to me, very seriously. Many have specific reference to Usenet in their TOS. Australia does have an Internet Code [though off hand, I cannot remember the actual name of it but sure you are aware of it]. Cath |
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... My sister-in-law recently flew Singapore Airlines from Heathrow to Singapore then Qantas to Australia and onto NZ. I believe the Singapore flight was a QF code share. Doesn't happen Cath, -- Tony Bailey Mercury Travel Books |
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Qantas Web Fare Specials to Australia & NZ from US.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:47:52 +1000, "Tony Bailey"
wrote: wrote in message .. . My sister-in-law recently flew Singapore Airlines from Heathrow to Singapore then Qantas to Australia and onto NZ. I believe the Singapore flight was a QF code share. Doesn't happen Cath, Thanks for that info Tony. I was under the impression from what she said, it was a codeshare. Went back and found the following which makes sense now and which you are probably very aware of. Cath Qantas wants to lock up LA route by Scott Rochfort http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...478064455.html September 15, 2003 Qantas is pushing the Federal Government to "ring fence" its golden Los Angeles route from increased competition for at least another two years as fresh talks about an open-sky agreement between Australia and Singapore get under way next week. Just six days after a proposed $NZ550 million ($490 million) alliance with Air New Zealand was shot down by the competition watchdog, Qantas is pushing for any open-sky agreement to bar Singapore Airlines flying from Australia to the US. Federal Transport Minister John Anderson is due to meet his Singapore counterpart, Yeo Cheow Tong, next Monday. Qantas public affairs manager Michael Sharp said the talks should "let the time-frame take into consideration the crisis that we're recovering from". Qantas has warned several times this year of weakening demand caused by the SARS outbreak and Iraq invasion, which, if anything, hit Singapore Airlines harder. "It's a timing issue, not a blanket ban," Mr Sharp said, adding that Qantas was "one of the few airlines that is having to compete [with government-owned airlines] while delivering a return to shareholders". With only one direct competitor to the US - the financially strapped United - Qantas enjoyed load factors of up to 90 per cent on the route even at the height of the SARS crisis. Analysts estimate the Flying Kangaroo makes about one-third of its profits from the route. Qantas is able to tightly control capacity from the US. The Australian Tourism Commission blamed a lack of capacity on the route in May, June and July for a fall in tourist numbers. Under the current air-services agreement between Singapore and Australia, Singapore Airlines only has "through rights" to fly from Australia to New Zealand. Australian airlines can operate beyond Singapore to not more than two of Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea and the Philippines and any one point in Japan. Meanwhile, analysts say it could take until early next year for the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission to decide whether to renew Qantas's eight-year-old joint-services agreement (JSA) with major shareholder British Airways. With Qantas and British Airways competing with another 20 airlines on the so-called kangaroo route, Macquarie Equities analyst Ian Myles said: "It's a highly competitive route. It's very hard to sit there and say [the JSA] is going to be rejected." If the JSA is renewed, British Airways and Qantas expect to save a collective $43 million in "real terms" in the next five years. In a joint submission to the ACCC, Qantas and British Airways said rejection of the JSA would cut the number of foreigners carried by Qantas and cost Australia $418 million in lost exports over five years. The only airline to lodge a submission against the JSA is Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic, which says it is a barrier to entry for European airlines hoping to fly the kangaroo route. Talk of Virgin Atlantic commencing services to Australia has been reignited with the UK and Hong Kong governments set to discuss their respective air-services agreements this month. The tough trading conditions took a toll not only on Qantas's profits in the year to June 30 but also management pay packets. No executives received a bonus. The annual report said CEO Geoff Dixon was paid $1.6 million and CFO Peter Gregg almost $1 million. #### |
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Qantas Web Fare Specials to Australia & NZ from US.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:47:52 +1000, "Tony Bailey"
wrote: wrote in message .. . My sister-in-law recently flew Singapore Airlines from Heathrow to Singapore then Qantas to Australia and onto NZ. I believe the Singapore flight was a QF code share. Doesn't happen Cath, My apologies - does British Airways sound better? Cath |
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Qantas Web Fare Specials to Australia & NZ from US.
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:44:17 -0500, pinkbikin wrote:
Well you've certainly been busy. You've also been somewhat economical with the truth. Fact: your website does contain self advertising ie: for your own softwear development company. Quotes from your website: "All the photographs were taken by Jason Poynting and it's obvious why he's a professional programmer and not a photographer." "In this time our clients have included EDS, Deloitte & Touche and British Telecom." "This means that you only pay to upload your images once, giving big savings on costly mobile phone data calls." None of the above quotes appear on the Scuba Addict website, which is the site with my trip reports and other scuba information on. They do appear on a separate site that I also have. There is a link from a handful of pages from one site to the other. These links are obvious that you are going from one site to another. They're not blind links. There's no sneaky redirects or use of frames. I have links to many commercial sites on my pages. I have never posted the url of my other site to a non-commercial Usenet group and never will. And quite how the first quote is a self advert, I don't know. It's meant to be a slightly humourous explanation for the amateur nature of my photographs. "A commercial posting account costs £35." This is on the Scuba Addict site. I added it last week. It's a database for UK dive boat skippers to advertise their free spaces on their boats. Again, I have not posted an advert for this commercial service on any Usenet group. I fail to see how my postings to this newsgroup could remotely constitute an advert for this. It is very unlikely to be of any interest to anyone on here at all. I have never advertised a product or service in which I have any interest on this newsgroup. All I do is include a short randomly generated byline in my signature pointing to my trip reports which I have been doing for years. And over the years, many people have thanked me for writing them. On my last trip to the Maldives, I actually met some people who chose the island based on my report. It was a bit scary really, fortunately they appeared to be enjoying themselves. The more people that read my reports, the more money it costs me in bandwidth. This is not a business. It's about sharing my experiences and getting to publish my own articles. Of course they are not on your front page but one does not have to dig deep to spot them. On the contrary, for most of them you have to click on a link to a completely different website. And about one person a month actually does this. Would you perhaps like to explain why you need this on your site? Certainly. Valueclick provide code which I include on my website. It generates adverts. If someone clicks on the advert, I get 15p. When the amount I've made reaches £30, I get paid. I'm in for a very long wait. Valueclick use cookies which are small pieces of information that are stored by the browser. The contents are only accessible by the site that put them there, which is Valueclick, and not myself. Most banner ad companies use cookies. If you want more details, I suggest you go to media.valueclick.com and click on the Privacy link. You do of course have the option to block cookies. I personally use cookies to handle login and passwords. There is no other practical way of doing it. Do you still have a copy of the snotty email you sent me? Yes thanks. And I'll explain why it was so annoying. You forged your email headers. When the mail gets delivered to my machine, it does what's called a DNS lookup to check that the host exists. Yours didn't. So every ten minutes the email started to get delivered and was then bounced. It sat there chewing up my bandwidth for about a week before I had to manually clear it. Jason -- http://www.scuba-addict.co.uk/ for Maldivian trip reports including Kuredu, Fesdu, Meedhupparu, Summer Island Village and Velidhu |
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... My apologies - does British Airways sound better? Much more likely, in fact BOTH QF and BA codeshare on the whole route. -- Tony Bailey Mercury Travel Books |
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