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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:00:34 -0800, panamfloyd wrote:
On Nov 29, 7:33 pm, Brian wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:51:09 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 4:44 am, Sound of Trumpet wrote: snip http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=...sweeden+bibles +hotels&um=... No hits. Let's try Yahoo. http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/ search;_ylt=A0WTTkrpQE9HZtwAAgKy87U... No hits. Let's try Reuters. http://search.us.reuters.com/rsearch...?blob=jansson% 20swe... No hits. Maybe I'm spelling Sweden wrong. http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/Fr...e.aspx?id=1898 Hmm. Maybe not. Let's try the AP. http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives? p_product=APAB&p_theme=a...("jansson%20sweden%20bi ble%20hotels") &xcal_numdocs=20&p_perpage=10&p_sort=Y-MD_date&xcal_useweights=no No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. aa#2015/KoBAAWA! Or you could just have clicked on the link provided which led here. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html Perhaps your denial is just another atheist lie. I'm curious about your reply. The Wall Street Journal was bought by Rupert Murdoch. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2007/07/31/ AR2007073100896.html The man who made his fortune by turning real newspapers into tabloids and *invented* the opinion-driven "news" report. http://www.outfoxed.org/ Trust him if you wish.... Trust? Nah. But if you like a lotta soft porn, you just can't beat Murdoch's Fox News Porn: http://foxnewsporn.com/ Best bit, YouTube rates clips of Fox News as "18+ only": http://foxattacks.com/blog/18907-you...st-18-to-view- fox-news And Digg bans Fox News clips: http://foxattacks.com/blog/18900-fox...o-hot-for-digg Keep in mind, these are just compilations of actual, broadcast material from Fox News... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ “To die for an idea; it is unquestionably noble. But how much nobler it would be if men died for ideas that were true!” - H. L. Mencken |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:20:50 +0000, Craig Welch wrote:
"brique" said: Bert Hyman wrote in message . .. In wrote: No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html In Europe, God Is (Not) Dead Christian groups are growing, faith is more public. Is supply-side economics the explanation? By ANDREW HIGGINS July 14, 2007 Stockholm Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. Looks like your search skills need some tuning. Well, I went looking, and all I can find is four links to...... this single source, the WSJ article. Which is a bit odd, as one would expect to find one or two local language sources, Sweden does have online versions of it's quite active newspaper sector. But none at all? I really do wonder whether some of the contributors to this thread should be allowed Internet access without their parents' supervision. http://tinyurl.com/2bhepg Funny, that article says essentially nothing is going on either way. "Scandic's decision has not generated any debate on the general idea of placing copies of The Bible in hotel rooms." So where's all this "public outrage" and stuff? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed we will all be!" http://www.sequentialpictures.com/mo...sepisode3.html |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
Craig Welch wrote in message ... "brique" said: Bert Hyman wrote in message .. . In wrote: No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html In Europe, God Is (Not) Dead Christian groups are growing, faith is more public. Is supply-side economics the explanation? By ANDREW HIGGINS July 14, 2007 Stockholm Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. Looks like your search skills need some tuning. Well, I went looking, and all I can find is four links to...... this single source, the WSJ article. Which is a bit odd, as one would expect to find one or two local language sources, Sweden does have online versions of it's quite active newspaper sector. But none at all? I really do wonder whether some of the contributors to this thread should be allowed Internet access without their parents' supervision. http://tinyurl.com/2bhepg Thank-you for the link. As for your additional commentary, when a search using the key-words 'Stefan Jansson Sweden Hotels Bibles' fails to turn up any more than the links I mentioned, I would suggest that perhaps it is the search engines at fault. Still, if it helps your self-esteem to feel smug and clever, who cares anyway? -- Craig http://www.wazu.jp/ 1,239 Unicode fonts for 82 written language groups: Price your own web plan: http://www.wazu.jp/hosting/ |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
(brique) wrote in
: As for your additional commentary, when a search using the key-words 'Stefan Jansson Sweden Hotels Bibles' fails to turn up any more than the links I mentioned, I would suggest that perhaps it is the search engines at fault. Simply remove the name of the single person mentioned in the WSJ article and you'll get about 82,000 hits this morning. -- Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
On Nov 29, 10:59 pm, Craig Welch wrote:
said: On Nov 29, 7:33 pm, Brian wrote: Or you could just have clicked on the link provided which led here. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html Perhaps your denial is just another atheist lie. I'm curious about your reply. The Wall Street Journal was bought by Rupert Murdoch. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/07/31/AR200... The man who made his fortune by turning real newspapers into tabloids and *invented* the opinion-driven "news" report. Same reporters. Same editors. Same agenda: keeping their jobs. I've witnessed firsthand what happens when a large media company changes ownership. There are people here doing things they never thought they'd do. Doing things they never wanted to do...because they have morgages and car loan payments and children to feed. That's what makes the change so insidious. All these good people, doing bad things to each other while the buisiness school morons laugh. Are you saying that because of a recent change of ownership, the paper has less credibility? Yes. Witness what has happened to CNN. Or UPI. Or the Washington Times. Are you saying that because of a recent change of ownership, a given article is a lie? Murdoch has made his fortune screwing stupid people out of their money by appealing to their base instincts. The man has turned some of England's major newspapers into shrieking harpies, complete with "celebrity news" and topless girls on page three. He does not care about accuracy, he has no sense of civic responsibility, and he does not care that his "news" organization increases levels of ignorance and causes civic debate to run caustic. He just wants the money, and he will say or do anything in his papers to get it. He knows American audiences LUV JEZUZ!, so it's time to throw `em a bone. Better change that subscription to The Economist if you plan on getting out of the markets before the crash... -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. aa#2015/KoBAAWA! |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 4:44 am, Sound of Trumpet wrote: useweights=no No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. I suggest that the most trustable account (in English) is he http://www.thelocal.se/7186/20070503/ HTH tim |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:51:59 +0100, tim (not at home) wrote:
wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 4:44 am, Sound of Trumpet wrote: useweights=no No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. I suggest that the most trustable account (in English) is he http://www.thelocal.se/7186/20070503/ HTH tim People who expect truth from the church or its believers are uniformly ignorant and trusting. Experience will pop that bubble, hopefully before they come to harm. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ https://thegreen.stanleylieber.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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I've never seen a bible in any hotel room in Europe
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:34:04 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:25:51 -0600, "Mistylein" wrote: The US of A Government is the Second beast of Revelation 13 if you may be interested. Idiot. "Mentally ill lunatic", more like it. |
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Public Outrage Forces Swedish Hotels To Put Bibles Back
Sound of Trumpet wrote in
: http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/..._archive.html# 87912303602 85898021 The Church in Europe No, that's not an oxymoron. This article from the July 14, 2007 Wall Street Journal tells us that after decades of decline, Christianity seems to be making a modest comeback: Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. He fired off an email to the hotel chain, saying the presence of the Christian scriptures was "boring and stupefying." This spring, the Scandic chain, Scandinavia's biggest, ordered the New Testaments removed. In a country where barely 3% of the population goes to church each week, the affair seemed just another step in Christian Europe's long march toward secularism. Then something odd happened: A national furor erupted. A conservative bishop announced a boycott. A leftist radical who became a devout Christian and talk-show host denounced the biblical purge in newspaper columns and on television. A young evangelical Christian organized an electronic letter-writing campaign, asking Scandic: Why are you removing Bibles but not pay-porn on your TVs? Scandic, which had started keeping its Bibles behind the front desk, put the New Testament back in guest rooms. "Sweden is not as secular as we thought," says Christer Sturmark, head of Sweden's Humanist Association, a noisy assembly of nonbelievers to which the Bible-protesting hotel guest belongs. Or rather - Scandic hotels decided that very few atheists and agnostics are rather unlikely to care very much either way about whether there is a bible in a drawer in their hotel room or not. An organized boycot by non-religious people was unlikely. On the other hand, the hotel might lose a _little_ money from a possible boycot by maybe a two or three thousand christians (about the number who protested by clicking on the web pages of a christian organization to send form letters of protest to the hotel, out of the about 240 000 people in Sweden who regularily attend christian church services). So they decided that loss-benefit wise, it just wasn't worth it for them. No benefit vs a tiny loss is still not worth it. Hardly a massive groundswell of protest, when 3% of the population attends church, and about 0.03% of the population protested the removal of bibles - ie 1 in 100 out of the people who regularily attends church. Seems like the 99 out of 100 other christian believers didn't think it was a big issue worth making a fuss about. Grin, Stein |
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