U.S. tourism may be casualty of war on terror

AJC wrote:

Which is no surprise to anyone. Those stories of 'everyone hating
Americans' were made up by the Bush regime and it's associated media
organizations to bolster nationalistic feelings in the US. Europeans,
Asians, and others always have, and always will make the distinction
between the US government, US corporate symbols, and individual
American travellers.

What are you talking about? Bush regime and its associated media
organizations? Are you nuts? The media is associated with the Bush
regime? Oh man, now thats funny!! Can you tell us which media
organizations are associated with the Bush regime??? Talk about warped
leftist conspiracy theories gone wild.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:50:45 GMT, Jim Ley wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:50:46 -0600, TCS
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:38:45 -0500, nobody wrote:
PTravel wrote:
from both Mexico and Canada post-9/11. Of course, I'm a citizen, but the
process didn't seem any more onerous than the usual garbage I go through
when I fly home from international travel.

Cars assembled in the USA now cost more because of those border security
measures. The car makers had all reorganised themselves for JIT delivery

funny. car prices haven't gone up except for purely japanese cars.

The US car makers are in no position to raise their prices, that
doesn't mean that the cars don't cost more to produce because of the
security measures.

Cite, please.

Pulling numbers out your ass doesn't imprss me.

"miles" wrote in message
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AJC wrote:

Which is no surprise to anyone. Those stories of 'everyone hating
Americans' were made up by the Bush regime and it's associated media
organizations to bolster nationalistic feelings in the US. Europeans,
Asians, and others always have, and always will make the distinction
between the US government, US corporate symbols, and individual
American travellers.

What are you talking about? Bush regime and its associated media
organizations? Are you nuts? The media is associated with the Bush
regime? Oh man, now thats funny!! Can you tell us which media
organizations are associated with the Bush regime??? Talk about warped
leftist conspiracy theories gone wild.

For starters, how about the columnists who were paid by the Bush
administration:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

Or, perhaps, the fake reporters who snuck in to news conferencers so they
could feed Bush questions?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/...ter/index.html

Or, simply, Fox News.

"Keith W" wrote in message
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"PTravel" wrote in message
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"spamfree" wrote in message
nk.net...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/02/17....ap/index.html


The article assumes that the dip in tourism is the result of security
procedures. Isn't it also possible that the dip is the result of
potential
tourists' distaste for recent American actions on the world stage?


Possibly but a lot is the perceived (and real) hassle that flying
in to the USA involves. Given the favourable exchange rate
european tourists ought to flocking to the USA in droves
but the prospect of being fingerprinted and the warnings that
people may be denied entry because of minor offences
they may have committed many years ago undoubtedly
put people off.

The latter is a real worry for a lot of people. A very respectable
friend of mine cancelled a planned trip to Florida because
he was convicted of possessing pot at University 30 years
ago. The policy of not allowing such convictions to lapse
means he's technically not permitted to travel under the visa
waiver programme. This is bad enough but to apply for
a visa and ineligibilty waiver he has to provide exact details
of the case including the court records. This turned out
to be a major hassle and he gave up.

Instead he's going to Australia where he can apply for a
visa over the internet and get confirmation of his
eligibility in minutes

I'm not suggesting that America's so-called "security" isn't an issue. It
is, however, part-and-parcel of a negative perception of the US that is the
direct result of the policies of the current administration.



Keith


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PTRAVEL wrote:

Or, simply, Fox News.


What is it with those female "reporters" on Fox Snooze? It's like they are
wearing strap - ons or something, jeez but they have hard faces...

Even the gals on the local Fox Chicago channel are the same way...

--
Best
Greg

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:09:54 -0700, miles wrote:

john wrote:

Big deal.

Is that making much of a dent in the trade deficit?

The trade deficit is 600 billion.

Big Deal. Whats your point? The deficit isn't what the thread topic
was dealing with. Besides, almost 1/2 last years increase in imports
was from oil. One single product. Hardly representative of the market
as a whole.

The other half was junk consumer goods from China going to Walmart.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:29:30 -0700, miles wrote:

AJC wrote:

Which is no surprise to anyone. Those stories of 'everyone hating
Americans' were made up by the Bush regime and it's associated media
organizations to bolster nationalistic feelings in the US. Europeans,
Asians, and others always have, and always will make the distinction
between the US government, US corporate symbols, and individual
American travellers.

What are you talking about? Bush regime and its associated media
organizations? Are you nuts? The media is associated with the Bush
regime? Oh man, now thats funny!! Can you tell us which media
organizations are associated with the Bush regime??? Talk about warped
leftist conspiracy theories gone wild.


How about the Fox network for starters?

How about the Sinclair TV and Radio conglomerate?

During the last election they had a hit piece film about Kerry and
forced all their TV affiliates to show it in prime time?

Do you want more?

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:29:30 -0700, miles wrote:

....
What are you talking about? Bush regime and its associated media
organizations? Are you nuts? The media is associated with the Bush
regime? Oh man, now thats funny!! Can you tell us which media
organizations are associated with the Bush regime??? Talk about warped
leftist conspiracy theories gone wild.


Nope. The truth.. Just a few of the recent revelations...
==================================================
From CNN... "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After the revelation that another
columnist who supported his administration's policies received
government money, ...."
=====
The media is inundated with administration "mouthpieces" whenever an
embarrassing issue arises. Who "gets them on"? Why are there few
serious dissenting voices?
=====
"...in 2002 syndicated columnist Maggie Gallagher "repeatedly defended
President Bush's push for a $300 million initiative encouraging
marriage as a way of strengthening families," without mentioning she
"had a $21,500 contract with the Department of Health and Human
Services to help promote the president's proposal."..."
===
"...conservative commentator Armstrong Williams acknowledged that his
company received $240,000 from a public relations agency hired by the
Department of Education to promote Bush's No Child Left Behind
education reform plan."
===
"...Michael McManus, a newspaper columnist, was paid up to $10 000 to
praise the administration's marriage initiative, which diverts funds
from welfare to marital counseling, The Los Angeles Times reported."
=====
"..the Bush administration spent more than $88 million on contracts
with public relations agencies in 2004, a 128 percent increase from
2000."
=====
FOX NEWS - solidly pro-Bush
eg: "...Your World w/Neil Cavuto, was pretty darn unfair and
unbalanced today (February 17, 2005). It was heavy with pro-Bush
propaganda..."
=======
Not to mention the American News(?) media that is full of Michael
Jackson/Scott Peterson/.. idiotic stories instead of reporting on real
political, world, and social issues..
=======
Not to mention the American press corps that has acquiesced from its
traditional role of holding administrations accountable to now asking
Bush "pre arranged questions" in pseudo-news staged press conferences.
=========
And where are the articles and the outrage about the administration's
connections to Lay, and Enron, and WorldCom - nope - Michael Jackson
stories are more important! WHAT A JOKE!!! The US news media has
quietly rolled over knowing where the bread is buttered.
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In article , john
wrote:

€ On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:29:30 -0700, miles wrote:
€
€ AJC wrote:
€
€ Which is no surprise to anyone. Those stories of 'everyone hating
€ Americans' were made up by the Bush regime and it's associated media
€ organizations to bolster nationalistic feelings in the US. Europeans,
€ Asians, and others always have, and always will make the distinction
€ between the US government, US corporate symbols, and individual
€ American travellers.
€
€ What are you talking about? Bush regime and its associated media
€ organizations? Are you nuts? The media is associated with the Bush
€ regime? Oh man, now thats funny!! Can you tell us which media
€ organizations are associated with the Bush regime??? Talk about warped
€ leftist conspiracy theories gone wild.
€
€
€ How about the Fox network for starters?
€
€ How about the Sinclair TV and Radio conglomerate?
€
€ During the last election they had a hit piece film about Kerry and
€ forced all their TV affiliates to show it in prime time?
€
€ Do you want more?

You forgot Clear Channel :-)

In article , Alan Street
wrote:

In article , john
wrote:

¥ On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:29:30 -0700, miles wrote:
¥
¥ AJC wrote:
¥
¥ Which is no surprise to anyone. Those stories of 'everyone hating
¥ Americans' were made up by the Bush regime and it's associated media
¥ organizations to bolster nationalistic feelings in the US. Europeans,
¥ Asians, and others always have, and always will make the distinction
¥ between the US government, US corporate symbols, and individual
¥ American travellers.
¥
¥ What are you talking about? Bush regime and its associated media
¥ organizations? Are you nuts? The media is associated with the Bush
¥ regime? Oh man, now thats funny!! Can you tell us which media
¥ organizations are associated with the Bush regime??? Talk about warped
¥ leftist conspiracy theories gone wild.
¥
¥
¥ How about the Fox network for starters?
¥
¥ How about the Sinclair TV and Radio conglomerate?
¥
¥ During the last election they had a hit piece film about Kerry and
¥ forced all their TV affiliates to show it in prime time?
¥
¥ Do you want more?

You forgot Clear Channel :-)

What was forgotten was that Kerry was offered the chance to rebut the
charges on the Sinclair Net show... he declined... like the official
form that would open his military records.

jay
Fri Feb 18, 2005