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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
"Bankrupt United Airlines said on Monday it received about 7,500
applications for flight attendant jobs on Sunday, the first day of a round of hiring that will add 2,000 jobs at the carrier. A spokes- woman for the airline said the number of applications on Sunday was more than seven times the expected response." http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1132056175.html This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the American economy is doing well. |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the
American economy is doing well. You need to use a bit more caution when establishing a cause and effect in the job market. At the minimum you are making the assumption that all those who applied are currently unemployed. |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the
American economy is doing well. You need to use a bit more caution when establishing a cause and effect in the job market. At the minimum you are making the assumption that all those who applied are currently unemployed. I'm just using well-informed common sense. Headhunters have told me that back when the economy was booming, ordinary jobs like secretary jobs would only garner 20 or so resumes. Now those same jobs attract hundreds of resumes. One headhunter told me that a really good job attracted many, many thousands of resumes. In good times it would have attracted hundreds of resumes. Your point about applicants is correct, but misleading. You probably are unaware that the DOL reports people with a part-time job, or a job giving them less hours than they need, as being employed, with the natural assumption by typical Americans that this means full-time. Yes, many of those applicants are probably employed by the DOL's definition, but not employed anywhere near the level they need to survive. My point still stands: if the economy is so great, then UA's ad would have attracted far fewer applicants. UA's expectation that only 1/7 as many people would apply only strengthens my case. |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
I'm just using well-informed common sense. Headhunters have told me
that back when the economy was booming, ordinary jobs like secretary jobs would only garner 20 or so resumes. Now those same jobs attract hundreds of resumes. One headhunter told me that a really good job attracted many, many thousands of resumes. In good times it would have attracted hundreds of resumes. Wrong. The only thing the hiring numbers might suggets is that there may be high unemployment in the airline field. But even this must assume that a large percentage of those who applied have either a background or training in that specific field. Correlate the UAL application numbers with responses for hiring in other professions. Do they demonstrate the same application ratio to positions available? And if not, can that then be attributed to a stable economy? A social economist might deduce that the number of applications to UAL indicate that the public now believes that the airline industry is on the rebound. Using 'well-informed common sense' requires recognition that the politically acceptable answer is not always the correct one. |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
PI wrote: "Bankrupt United Airlines said on Monday it received about 7,500 applications for flight attendant jobs on Sunday, the first day of a round of hiring that will add 2,000 jobs at the carrier. A spokes- woman for the airline said the number of applications on Sunday was more than seven times the expected response." http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1132056175.html This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the American economy is doing well. That's a rather wildly absurd statement, don't you think? The fact that airlines are in trouble and that a lot of people are applying for jobs doesn't have anything to do with the overall state of the economy. Unemployment is down (well below historical averages). Growth is good and steady (and sustainable rather than being a bubble). Companies are profitable. I'm not sure how you call that a "naive belief". |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
"Tchiowa" wrote ... PI wrote: "Bankrupt United Airlines said on Monday it received about 7,500 applications for flight attendant jobs on Sunday, the first day of a round of hiring that will add 2,000 jobs at the carrier. A spokes- woman for the airline said the number of applications on Sunday was more than seven times the expected response." http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1132056175.html This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the American economy is doing well. That's a rather wildly absurd statement, don't you think? The fact that airlines are in trouble and that a lot of people are applying for jobs doesn't have anything to do with the overall state of the economy. Unemployment is down (well below historical averages). Growth is good and steady (and sustainable rather than being a bubble). Companies are profitable. I'm not sure how you call that a "naive belief". From an economist's perspective (or that of a demographer), one might classify PI as the holder of "naive belief". I suspect that FA applications have more to do with a long period without FA hirings by the majors plus the traditional appeal, psychological rather than financial, of the "profession", still one that draws folks whose aspirations have more to do with emotion than good fiscal sense. Application list lengths for astronauts and cheer leaders traditionally are unrelated to the economy, either, but do reflect published notice that the waiting lists are open.... TMO |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
"PI" wrote in message ink.net... "Bankrupt United Airlines said on Monday it received about 7,500 applications for flight attendant jobs on Sunday, the first day of a round of hiring that will add 2,000 jobs at the carrier. A spokes- woman for the airline said the number of applications on Sunday was more than seven times the expected response." http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1132056175.html This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the American economy is doing well. People don't generally apply for those jobs because of the money. Many do it for the flight benefits for themselves, their families, their friends. If you can qualify for a job as a UA FA, you can get a job doing something else for more money -- it's not the money. |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
On 17 Nov 2005 22:06:41 -0800, "Tchiowa" wrote:
PI wrote: "Bankrupt United Airlines said on Monday it received about 7,500 applications for flight attendant jobs on Sunday, the first day of a round of hiring that will add 2,000 jobs at the carrier. A spokes- woman for the airline said the number of applications on Sunday was more than seven times the expected response." http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1132056175.html This directly contradicts the generally-held, but naive belief that the American economy is doing well. That's a rather wildly absurd statement, don't you think? The fact that airlines are in trouble and that a lot of people are applying for jobs doesn't have anything to do with the overall state of the economy. Unemployment is down (well below historical averages). Growth is good and steady (and sustainable rather than being a bubble). Companies are profitable. I'm not sure how you call that a "naive belief". What planet do you live on? Unemployment is extremely high in the US. The economy is sluggish, at best. The US has incurred a series of staggering trade deficits, war debts, etc. You're just plain wrong. |
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United Swamped With Flight Attendant Applications
What planet do you live on? Unemployment is extremely high in the
US. The economy is sluggish, at best. The US has incurred a series of staggering trade deficits, war debts, etc. You're just plain wrong. Let me guess here, ... you're the first one in line when it comes to believing any program on PBS/NPR, and any report by the mainstream media. Is federal spending too high? You bet. Has the economy tanked? Depends on whose definition you prefer to use. According to the political left we are in the midst of a depression and will soon be waiting in soup lines. |
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