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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
From http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,336...58_1_A,00.html
A German court has sentenced a man to 18 months in prison for killing a mother and daughter through reckless driving on a motorway. The accident has triggered a debate on uncontrolled speeding on the autobahns. Rolf Fischer's passion for high speeds proved to be his undoing on Tuesday when a German court found the 34-year-old Mercedes test driver guilty of causing the deaths of a young woman and her two-year-old daughter while travelling at 250km/h on a German motorway. Nicknamed "Turbo-Rolf" among his colleagues for his preference for fast cars, the DaimlerChrysler engineer now faces 18 months in prison. Fischer has also been fired by DaimlerChrysler following the court sentencing. A case of reckless speeding The state prosecution in Karlsruhe, who had called for a prison sentence of one year and nine months, said that on the day of the accident in summer last year, Fischer was tailgaiting a car driven by a woman named only as Jasmin A. on the A5 autobahn. The engineer was on his way to a car test-track in the northern city of Papenburg in a company-owned, dark Mercedes SLK. Fischer forced the 21-year-old woman, driving in a much smaller Kia, to shift into one of the slow lanes. Startled by his agressiveness and speed, the woman lost control of her car while swerving to change lanes. The car spun across two lanes and smashed into some trees. She and her daughter, Rebecca, died instantly. Fischer sped off from the scene. Police said they had finally found Fischer on the basis of petrol station receipts, mobile phone records and the testimony of a witness. Witnesses during the trial also identified Fischer's Mercedes as having caused the accident. However Fischer himself had pleaded not guilty to manslaughter, fleeing from the scene of the accident and serious traffic violations during the trial. Despite his colorful nickname, which has been splashed in the tabloid press, Fischer had denied his love for fast driving. "It's a complete mystery to me why people say that I have an aggressive driving style," he said during the trial. "I never forced anybody off the road nor did I notice anything about an accident," he said. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
If he was found guilty of manslaughter, that is a very light sentence.
But it could easily be the same in the U.S., especially in states where there is no mandated sentence for any given crime. Will there now be civil litigation ? jay Wed Feb 18, 2004 In article , Thomas Peel wrote: From http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,336...58_1_A,00.html A German court has sentenced a man to 18 months in prison for killing a mother and daughter through reckless driving on a motorway. The accident has triggered a debate on uncontrolled speeding on the autobahns. Rolf Fischer's passion for high speeds proved to be his undoing on Tuesday when a German court found the 34-year-old Mercedes test driver guilty of causing the deaths of a young woman and her two-year-old daughter while travelling at 250km/h on a German motorway. Nicknamed "Turbo-Rolf" among his colleagues for his preference for fast cars, the DaimlerChrysler engineer now faces 18 months in prison. Fischer has also been fired by DaimlerChrysler following the court sentencing. A case of reckless speeding The state prosecution in Karlsruhe, who had called for a prison sentence of one year and nine months, said that on the day of the accident in summer last year, Fischer was tailgaiting a car driven by a woman named only as Jasmin A. on the A5 autobahn. The engineer was on his way to a car test-track in the northern city of Papenburg in a company-owned, dark Mercedes SLK. Fischer forced the 21-year-old woman, driving in a much smaller Kia, to shift into one of the slow lanes. Startled by his agressiveness and speed, the woman lost control of her car while swerving to change lanes. The car spun across two lanes and smashed into some trees. She and her daughter, Rebecca, died instantly. Fischer sped off from the scene. Police said they had finally found Fischer on the basis of petrol station receipts, mobile phone records and the testimony of a witness. Witnesses during the trial also identified Fischer's Mercedes as having caused the accident. However Fischer himself had pleaded not guilty to manslaughter, fleeing from the scene of the accident and serious traffic violations during the trial. Despite his colorful nickname, which has been splashed in the tabloid press, Fischer had denied his love for fast driving. "It's a complete mystery to me why people say that I have an aggressive driving style," he said during the trial. "I never forced anybody off the road nor did I notice anything about an accident," he said. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Go Fig schrieb: If he was found guilty of manslaughter, that is a very light sentence. But it could easily be the same in the U.S., especially in states where there is no mandated sentence for any given crime. Will there now be civil litigation ? jay Wed Feb 18, 2004 I just flipped through the court reporting and several pages of reader comments, the subject of civil litigation has not been mentioned, nut I guess it's quite possible. I guess you're an American? Most of the discussion was about whether the sentence was too heavy/light/wrong/will be overturned on appeal etc. T. In article , Thomas Peel wrote: From http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,336...58_1_A,00.html A German court has sentenced a man to 18 months in prison for killing a mother and daughter through reckless driving on a motorway. The accident has triggered a debate on uncontrolled speeding on the autobahns. Rolf Fischer's passion for high speeds proved to be his undoing on Tuesday when a German court found the 34-year-old Mercedes test driver guilty of causing the deaths of a young woman and her two-year-old daughter while travelling at 250km/h on a German motorway. Nicknamed "Turbo-Rolf" among his colleagues for his preference for fast cars, the DaimlerChrysler engineer now faces 18 months in prison. Fischer has also been fired by DaimlerChrysler following the court sentencing. A case of reckless speeding The state prosecution in Karlsruhe, who had called for a prison sentence of one year and nine months, said that on the day of the accident in summer last year, Fischer was tailgaiting a car driven by a woman named only as Jasmin A. on the A5 autobahn. The engineer was on his way to a car test-track in the northern city of Papenburg in a company-owned, dark Mercedes SLK. Fischer forced the 21-year-old woman, driving in a much smaller Kia, to shift into one of the slow lanes. Startled by his agressiveness and speed, the woman lost control of her car while swerving to change lanes. The car spun across two lanes and smashed into some trees. She and her daughter, Rebecca, died instantly. Fischer sped off from the scene. Police said they had finally found Fischer on the basis of petrol station receipts, mobile phone records and the testimony of a witness. Witnesses during the trial also identified Fischer's Mercedes as having caused the accident. However Fischer himself had pleaded not guilty to manslaughter, fleeing from the scene of the accident and serious traffic violations during the trial. Despite his colorful nickname, which has been splashed in the tabloid press, Fischer had denied his love for fast driving. "It's a complete mystery to me why people say that I have an aggressive driving style," he said during the trial. "I never forced anybody off the road nor did I notice anything about an accident," he said. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Sounds like reckless manslaughter; he ought to be doing at least
several decades on a chain gang picking up trash along the same road where he killed two people... Tim K "Thomas Peel" wrote in message ... Go Fig schrieb: If he was found guilty of manslaughter, that is a very light sentence. But it could easily be the same in the U.S., especially in states where there is no mandated sentence for any given crime. Will there now be civil litigation ? jay Wed Feb 18, 2004 I just flipped through the court reporting and several pages of reader comments, the subject of civil litigation has not been mentioned, nut I guess it's quite possible. I guess you're an American? Most of the discussion was about whether the sentence was too heavy/light/wrong/will be overturned on appeal etc. T. In article , Thomas Peel wrote: From http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,336...58_1_A,00.html A German court has sentenced a man to 18 months in prison for killing a mother and daughter through reckless driving on a motorway. The accident has triggered a debate on uncontrolled speeding on the autobahns. Rolf Fischer's passion for high speeds proved to be his undoing on Tuesday when a German court found the 34-year-old Mercedes test driver guilty of causing the deaths of a young woman and her two-year-old daughter while travelling at 250km/h on a German motorway. Nicknamed "Turbo-Rolf" among his colleagues for his preference for fast cars, the DaimlerChrysler engineer now faces 18 months in prison. Fischer has also been fired by DaimlerChrysler following the court sentencing. A case of reckless speeding The state prosecution in Karlsruhe, who had called for a prison sentence of one year and nine months, said that on the day of the accident in summer last year, Fischer was tailgaiting a car driven by a woman named only as Jasmin A. on the A5 autobahn. The engineer was on his way to a car test-track in the northern city of Papenburg in a company-owned, dark Mercedes SLK. Fischer forced the 21-year-old woman, driving in a much smaller Kia, to shift into one of the slow lanes. Startled by his agressiveness and speed, the woman lost control of her car while swerving to change lanes. The car spun across two lanes and smashed into some trees. She and her daughter, Rebecca, died instantly. Fischer sped off from the scene. Police said they had finally found Fischer on the basis of petrol station receipts, mobile phone records and the testimony of a witness. Witnesses during the trial also identified Fischer's Mercedes as having caused the accident. However Fischer himself had pleaded not guilty to manslaughter, fleeing from the scene of the accident and serious traffic violations during the trial. Despite his colorful nickname, which has been splashed in the tabloid press, Fischer had denied his love for fast driving. "It's a complete mystery to me why people say that I have an aggressive driving style," he said during the trial. "I never forced anybody off the road nor did I notice anything about an accident," he said. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Sounds like reckless manslaughter; he ought to be doing at least
several decades on a chain gang picking up trash along the same road where he killed two people... Criminology in Germany tends to focus on what will actually do any good, not revenge as a pure motive. The deaths are a horrible tragedy. The question is what penalties serve any function, besides whetting our own personal appetites for hatred. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Who says their focus is correct? Let's whet out appetite for *Justice*
to the *Victims* and not call it hate instead... Eight months for killing someone recklessly isn't justice for the victim. Tim K "Douglas W. Hoyt" wrote in message ... Sounds like reckless manslaughter; he ought to be doing at least several decades on a chain gang picking up trash along the same road where he killed two people... Criminology in Germany tends to focus on what will actually do any good, not revenge as a pure motive. The deaths are a horrible tragedy. The question is what penalties serve any function, besides whetting our own personal appetites for hatred. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Douglas W. Hoyt wrote: Criminology in Germany tends to focus on what will actually do any good, not revenge as a pure motive. The deaths are a horrible tragedy. The question is what penalties serve any function, besides whetting our own personal appetites for hatred. How about locking him up for good so he can't wrecklessly kill anyone else? Punishment for a crime doesn't do any good? |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
In article , Douglas W. Hoyt
wrote: Sounds like reckless manslaughter; he ought to be doing at least several decades on a chain gang picking up trash along the same road where he killed two people... Criminology in Germany tends to focus on what will actually do any good, not revenge as a pure motive. The deaths are a horrible tragedy. The question is what penalties serve any function, besides whetting our own personal appetites for hatred. So someone who kills their spouse in a rage of passion should just be let go ? Statistically, it is very likely they will ever kill again. If this guy is in jail he can't be going 200+/kph. jay Wed Feb 18, 2004 |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Well in this case a good hanging would prevent him from doing it again.
-- wf. "Douglas W. Hoyt" wrote: Sounds like reckless manslaughter; he ought to be doing at least several decades on a chain gang picking up trash along the same road where he killed two people... Criminology in Germany tends to focus on what will actually do any good, not revenge as a pure motive. The deaths are a horrible tragedy. The question is what penalties serve any function, besides whetting our own personal appetites for hatred. |
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Autobahn reckless driver imprisoned
Tim Kroesen wrote:
"Douglas W. Hoyt" wrote: Criminology in Germany tends to focus on what will actually do any good, not revenge as a pure motive. The deaths are a horrible tragedy. The question is what penalties serve any function, besides whetting our own personal appetites for hatred. Who says their focus is correct? Let's whet out appetite for *Justice* to the *Victims* and not call it hate instead... Eight months for killing someone recklessly isn't justice for the victim. While I find eight months to be a ridiculously light sentence, let us not forget that the vicitms are dead. There is no remedy available to them. The focus, then, should be on providing a powerful disincentive to others who might drive with similar recklessness. miguel -- Hundreds of travel photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu/ |
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