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New Zealand Bacon
I just returned from a vacation in New Zealand, including the
Milford Track. One question. No, two. What do they call what we in the US call "bacon"? What they called bacon was not, nor was it exactly what we call "Canadian Bacon", which is just ordinary ham made from the tenderloin of the pig. What part of the pig is what they call bacon? It looks sort of like Canadian Bacon, but is a larger cut of meat and the out parts are very fatty. Its clearly just ham by another name, but what area of the animal? Doug McDonald |
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On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:21:59 -0600,
.. wrote: Ham is just cured pork... You might want to read the definition here, which disagrees with you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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What do they call what we in the US call "bacon"? What they
called bacon was not, nor was it exactly what we call "Canadian Bacon", which is just ordinary ham made from the tenderloin of the pig. US bacon is from the pork belly. NZ bacon is from the pork back (same as Australia, UK and Canada). So it is Canadian bacon as you would call it. Any differences you saw might just be the use of different breeds of pigs and/oror local preferences as to the amount of fat left on for cooking and/or cooking style (NZ bacon won't be as "crisped" as US bacon). Kerry |
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It's probably worth adding that the world is becoming a much smaller place
and formerly "exotic" foodstuffs can now be purchased far from their point of origin. As an Australian, I remember my surprise when I first enountered mushy peas in the UK. Now I can buy them in my local supermarket. Similarly muffins in my childhood were nothing like the muffins of the USA, but now both kinds of muffins are commonplace in Australia and we say "English" or "American" to distinguish as needed. As kids, we used to laugh at how in the USA kids apparently ate peanut-butter-and-jelly all from one jar; then it appeared in our supermarkets too. And nobody even knew what a sushi was, now there is sushi in every shopping centre. Even our own beloved Vegemite can be located in many other countries, if only to service the needs of Aussie ex-pats. While it is nice to have the best of the world's produce available in your local supermarket, it makes eating while travelling somewhat less of an adventure these days. So make the most of the "different" bacon while you can! Kerry |
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www.nzpork.co.nz Well, yes, "belly slices" describes bacon, but what do people in New Zealand ask for if they need that for a recipe? Pork belly slices? Smoked pork belly slices? Doug McDonald |
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"Doug McDonald" wrote in message ... .. wrote: www.nzpork.co.nz Well, yes, "belly slices" describes bacon, but what do people in New Zealand ask for if they need that for a recipe? Pork belly slices? Smoked pork belly slices? "bacon" |
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The New Zealand bacon I recall was not like our back bacon. Not sure why
Americans call back bacon Canadian bacon. Our normal bacon is the rashers just like the Americans and it can be fatty. The NZ stuff is better. The back bacon is pink and round and small little fat but bigger price. Another form of bacon we have is pea meal bacon. Cheers from Canada "Doug McDonald" wrote in message ... I just returned from a vacation in New Zealand, including the Milford Track. One question. No, two. What do they call what we in the US call "bacon"? What they called bacon was not, nor was it exactly what we call "Canadian Bacon", which is just ordinary ham made from the tenderloin of the pig. What part of the pig is what they call bacon? It looks sort of like Canadian Bacon, but is a larger cut of meat and the out parts are very fatty. Its clearly just ham by another name, but what area of the animal? Doug McDonald |
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:51:43 GMT, "cactusjoe"
wrote in z%ymj.9850$4w.6770@pd7urf2no : The New Zealand bacon I recall was not like our back bacon. Not sure why Americans call back bacon Canadian bacon. Our normal bacon is the rashers just like the Americans and it can be fatty. The NZ stuff is better. The back bacon is pink and round and small little fat but bigger price. Another F form of bacon we have is pea meal bacon. Cheers from Canada "Doug McDonald" wrote in message ... I just returned from a vacation in New Zealand, including the Milford Track. One question. No, two. What do they call what we in the US call "bacon"? What they called bacon was not, nor was it exactly what we call "Canadian Bacon", which is just ordinary ham made from the tenderloin of the pig. What part of the pig is what they call bacon? It looks sort of like Canadian Bacon, but is a larger cut of meat and the out parts are very fatty. Its clearly just ham by another name, but what area of the animal? Doug McDonald OK, as a Yank who has butchered pigs will try to clarify what part of the pig American bacon comes from. First, have a look at the guide to pork cuts at the following web site: http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/porkcuts.htm On the drawing of the pig, area #4 is the "side" of the swine. [image by: Minnesota pork board] To quote their description: 4: Side: From it comes the following cuts: spareribs, bacon, Pork belly, Pork spareribs St. Louis Style, Pork shoulder hocks Pork leg (fresh ham) hocks. So the bacon portion in the USA generally comes from the belly. A more detailed drawing can be found at http://www.sugarmountainhome.com/liv.../porkcuts.html On this drawing, see area " 7: Spareribs, salt pork, bacon. "Bacon, of course, comes from the belly. " The slab of bacon is then cured by packing it in a curing mixture. One old mixture is 8 pounds of salt [Sodium chloride, NaCl] 3 pounds of brown sugar, 3 ounces of saltpeter [potassium nitrate, KNO3]. This is a dry salt cure, bacon slab buried in it for a few days. (Time period varies) Most bacon is smoked as well, hanging on hooks for 2 or 3 days or longer in a smoke house. Hardwood sawdust is heated on a pan over temperature controlled electric heater. Maple and oak, from memory, don't use pine from conifers unless want a very odd taste! This sterilizes the meat and imparts the desired smoky flavor. Actually, can be smoked longer for better flavor, and to render out excess fat, to the point where refrigeration is not required for storage. This, of course, is the old, traditional method. These days it could be just sprayed with a smoke flavor. :-) Takes less time. To quote a bit from Wikipedia article on bacon: "A side of unsliced bacon is a flitch or slab bacon, while an individual slice of bacon is a rasher (United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, Australia and New Zealand) or simply a slice or strip (North America). Slices of bacon are also known as collops. Traditionally, the skin is left on the cut and is known as bacon rind. Rindless bacon, however, is quite common. In the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland, bacon comes in a wide variety of cuts and flavours. In the United States ordinary bacon is only made from the pork belly, yielding what is known in Britain as "streaky bacon", or "streaky rashers". In Britain bacon made from the meat on the back of the pig is referred to as back bacon and is part of traditional British and Irish breakfasts. In the United States, back bacon is called Canadian-style Bacon or Canadian Bacon.[1] The USDA defines bacon as "the cured belly of a swine carcass," while other cuts and characteristics must be separately qualified (e.g. "smoked pork loin bacon").[2] "USDA Certified" bacon means that it has been treated for trichinella. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon In passing, a large meat company in the US used to advertise that the only part of the hog they didn't use was the squeal.:-) Regards, ple 9:19 PM Saturday 26/Jan/08 Australia Day Holiday! [GMT + 11 hrs] |
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And then there is whole hog pork sausage.
Never saw it in a shop, but bought it from slaugherhouse. Dick |
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