The Paris Air Show

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For those coming to Paris for tourism, June
tends to be filled with shows, clothing ect
So rooms are harder to get than in the summer
period.

The big one is the air show coming next week.

What is unknown to Americans in the history
of flight was in spite of the Wright Bros,
the major advances before WWI were in Europe,
in particular France.

Earl

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Boeing-Airbus Rivalry Dominates Air Show
06.10.2005, 12:37 PM

Aircraft of all descriptions are arriving for the Paris Air Show, but the
global aerospace industry's main gathering looks certain to be dominated
more than ever this year by its biggest rivalry: the Boeing-Airbus dogfight.

Planes and helicopters have been flying in since early this week to take
their places on the tarmac at Le Bourget, north of Paris, where they will go
on display Monday alongside aeronautic and military hardware ranging from
flight simulators to missiles.

Among them, the Airbus A380 "superjumbo" is bound to get the most attention
at its first air show appearance - even as the European aircraft maker is
struggling to maintain the lead it took from its U.S. rival two years ago.

The 555-seater A380, which arrives Sunday, represents Airbus' bet on a
strong market for very large planes, while Boeing Co. sees more demand for
long-range, mid-size jets like its fuel-efficient 787, which enters service
in 2008.

After a slow start, Boeing's "Dreamliner" has drawn a surge of orders and
commitments, to a total of 266. But the Airbus A350 - the European company's
answer to the 787 - is having trouble getting off the ground, with just 10
nonbinding orders to date, and a trans-Atlantic trade dispute threatening
its planned funding.

Airbus' top plane salesman John Leahy had vowed to close some of the 787's
lead, saying more than 100 A350 orders would be clinched in time to be
announced at Le Bourget.

But his task cannot have been made any easier by the apparent setback to the
A350 announced Wednesday, when parent company European Aeronautic Defence
and Space Co. said the program was on track for a final go-ahead "by the end
of September" - instead of next week, as many had expected.

Airbus spokesman David Velupillai declined to say Friday whether the earlier
target stands and would not elaborate on reasons for the new September
deadline - although EADS said Wednesday it was keen to avoid straining
resources for other aircraft programs.

Airbus recently admitted that the first A380s will be delivered up to six
months late, and several of its 15 early customers said they will seek
compensation under the terms of their contracts.

Plans to use cheap loans from European governments to fund one-third of the
A350's euro4 billion (US$4.9 billion) development cost are also at the
center of a bitter trans-Atlantic trade dispute over plane subsidies, after
Washington filed a complaint against the EU at the World Trade Organization
last month and Brussels reciprocated.

No final decision has been announced on whether the government aid will be
used - a factor that Randy Baseler, Boeing's vice president for marketing,
believes could be holding the A350 back.

"I don't think they can announce the launch of an airplane and then apply
for aid afterward," Baseler told The Associated Press on Friday. "So that
might be a reason they're delaying too."

In a three-class configuration, Airbus says the A350 will carry a maximum of
285 passengers 7,500 nautical miles (13,900 kilometers). By comparison, the
larger of the two long-haul 787 versions will carry 259 passengers 8,300
nautical miles (15,400 kilometers), Boeing says. Scale models of both planes
will be on show at Le Bourget.

The newest addition to Boeing's airliner family, the 777-240LR, flew into Le
Bourget early Friday and will be part of the static displays, featuring a
total of 1,916 exhibitors from 41 countries.

There will also be 238 real working planes and helicopters present - an 18
percent increase on the last Paris Air Show in 2003, when the industry was
still suffering the aftershock of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

On the military side, aerobatic performances by rival fighter planes will
help to underscore the dominant theme of trans-Atlantic competition.

Louis Le Portz, chairman and CEO of Le Bourget organizer PLBpe, said both
the Rafale fighter from France's Dassault Aviation and Boeing's F-15 Eagle
will be among some 60 aircraft that stage display flights. The two planes
are competing for a lucrative deal to supply 20 fighters to Singapore's
armed forces.

The air show opens to the public for three days on June 17, after four days
reserved for industry visitors and government delegations.

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Salon du Bourget

see the Airbus 380
flight demo
and may be a "crash"

There are sometimes crashes on this Air-Show.......
1973 a Russian Tupolev-144 was crashing
1999 A Russian Sukhoi was crashing
http://membres.lycos.fr/voyageurdumo...t/sukhoi.shtml


June 17-19 for the public

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
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For those coming to Paris for tourism, June
tends to be filled with shows, clothing ect
So rooms are harder to get than in the summer
period.

The big one is the air show coming next week.

What is unknown to Americans in the history
of flight was in spite of the Wright Bros,
the major advances before WWI were in Europe,
in particular France.

Earl

***



Boeing-Airbus Rivalry Dominates Air Show
06.10.2005, 12:37 PM

Aircraft of all descriptions are arriving for the Paris Air Show, but the
global aerospace industry's main gathering looks certain to be dominated
more than ever this year by its biggest rivalry: the Boeing-Airbus
dogfight.

Planes and helicopters have been flying in since early this week to take
their places on the tarmac at Le Bourget, north of Paris, where they will
go
on display Monday alongside aeronautic and military hardware ranging from
flight simulators to missiles.

Among them, the Airbus A380 "superjumbo" is bound to get the most
attention
at its first air show appearance - even as the European aircraft maker is
struggling to maintain the lead it took from its U.S. rival two years ago.

The 555-seater A380, which arrives Sunday, represents Airbus' bet on a
strong market for very large planes, while Boeing Co. sees more demand for
long-range, mid-size jets like its fuel-efficient 787, which enters
service
in 2008.

After a slow start, Boeing's "Dreamliner" has drawn a surge of orders and
commitments, to a total of 266. But the Airbus A350 - the European
company's
answer to the 787 - is having trouble getting off the ground, with just 10
nonbinding orders to date, and a trans-Atlantic trade dispute threatening
its planned funding.

Airbus' top plane salesman John Leahy had vowed to close some of the 787's
lead, saying more than 100 A350 orders would be clinched in time to be
announced at Le Bourget.

But his task cannot have been made any easier by the apparent setback to
the
A350 announced Wednesday, when parent company European Aeronautic Defence
and Space Co. said the program was on track for a final go-ahead "by the
end
of September" - instead of next week, as many had expected.

Airbus spokesman David Velupillai declined to say Friday whether the
earlier
target stands and would not elaborate on reasons for the new September
deadline - although EADS said Wednesday it was keen to avoid straining
resources for other aircraft programs.

Airbus recently admitted that the first A380s will be delivered up to six
months late, and several of its 15 early customers said they will seek
compensation under the terms of their contracts.

Plans to use cheap loans from European governments to fund one-third of
the
A350's euro4 billion (US$4.9 billion) development cost are also at the
center of a bitter trans-Atlantic trade dispute over plane subsidies,
after
Washington filed a complaint against the EU at the World Trade
Organization
last month and Brussels reciprocated.

No final decision has been announced on whether the government aid will be
used - a factor that Randy Baseler, Boeing's vice president for marketing,
believes could be holding the A350 back.

"I don't think they can announce the launch of an airplane and then apply
for aid afterward," Baseler told The Associated Press on Friday. "So that
might be a reason they're delaying too."

In a three-class configuration, Airbus says the A350 will carry a maximum
of
285 passengers 7,500 nautical miles (13,900 kilometers). By comparison,
the
larger of the two long-haul 787 versions will carry 259 passengers 8,300
nautical miles (15,400 kilometers), Boeing says. Scale models of both
planes
will be on show at Le Bourget.

The newest addition to Boeing's airliner family, the 777-240LR, flew into
Le
Bourget early Friday and will be part of the static displays, featuring a
total of 1,916 exhibitors from 41 countries.

There will also be 238 real working planes and helicopters present - an 18
percent increase on the last Paris Air Show in 2003, when the industry was
still suffering the aftershock of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

On the military side, aerobatic performances by rival fighter planes will
help to underscore the dominant theme of trans-Atlantic competition.

Louis Le Portz, chairman and CEO of Le Bourget organizer PLBpe, said both
the Rafale fighter from France's Dassault Aviation and Boeing's F-15 Eagle
will be among some 60 aircraft that stage display flights. The two planes
are competing for a lucrative deal to supply 20 fighters to Singapore's
armed forces.

The air show opens to the public for three days on June 17, after four
days
reserved for industry visitors and government delegations.

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trallala writes:

There are sometimes crashes on this Air-Show.......
1973 a Russian Tupolev-144 was crashing
1999 A Russian Sukhoi was crashing

Use the past simple, not the past continuous.

--
Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

"Earl Evleth" wrote in message

The big one is the air show coming next week.

What is unknown to Americans in the history
of flight was in spite of the Wright Bros,
the major advances before WWI were in Europe,
in particular France.

There were many who doubted that the Wrights had flown and continued
to fly. They were so paranoid that they flew in near-secret on a farm
near Dayton for a number of years. The technology of the rest of the
world passed them by very rapidly.

Of course WW1 was the big driver of the technology. By the end of the
war the Germans had all-metal Junkers planes that remained almost
unchanged in production for about the next 15 years. Sold in the USA
as the JL-6 without any mention of the German origin.

The French had 60 twin-engine Farman Goliath airliners [based on
bombers] in service by 1920-1923 and a few remained in service until
the early 30s. Government subsidies didn't hurt.

Then the Douglas DC2 and DC3 swept away all the competition.

The booking hall in the old airline terminal building at Le Bourget
has a really remarkable collection of aircraft up through 1919. It's
part of the French Air & Space Museum. Worth a visit.

In article , Earl Evleth
wrote:

There will also be 238 real working planes and helicopters present - an 18
percent increase on the last Paris Air Show in 2003, when the industry was
still suffering the aftershock of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

How disingenuous, the show was down due to lack of participation by the
U.S. Pentagon, Boeing and Lockheed... the U.S. was not too pleased when
Oz troops found Roland 2 Missile systems and a Roland 3 launcher in
Iraq in April.

jay
Fri Jun 10, 2005

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:26:54 +0200, Earl Evleth
wrote:

The big one is the air show coming next week.

Comparing the attractions of this show to the one I attended in 1971,
I'd say this one is a bit thin on star power, even with the big
Airbus. That show featured the Concorde, TU-144 (Soviet SST), C5a and
L-1011 among the usual military aircraft and weapons. But the most
impressive (certainly the strangest looking aircraft I've ever seen)
was the giant Soviet Mil V-12 helicopter.

Gordon

"Gordon Forbess" wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:26:54 +0200, Earl Evleth
wrote:

The big one is the air show coming next week.

Comparing the attractions of this show to the one I attended in
1971,
I'd say this one is a bit thin on star power, even with the big
Airbus. That show featured the Concorde, TU-144 (Soviet SST), C5a
and
L-1011 among the usual military aircraft and weapons. But the most
impressive (certainly the strangest looking aircraft I've ever seen)
was the giant Soviet Mil V-12 helicopter.

Hey, I'm on for the 1971 Paris Air Show. When does the rerun /
revival happen?

Other than that, I guess we'll have to be content with the 2005
version. ;-))