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Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)
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Madonna wrote:

Miguel Cruz wrote:

Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

In most cases, they CAN be used outside North America - but you will be
charged at standard rates. It won't be a free call.

On Wed, 19 May 2004 15:14:32 -0400, the renowned S Viemeister
wrote:

Madonna wrote:

Miguel Cruz wrote:

Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

In most cases, they CAN be used outside North America - but you will be
charged at standard rates. It won't be a free call.

Interesting. I can't call US-only 1-800 numbers from Canada, for free
or otherwise, there's just no way to do it that I know of. A bit of a
PITA if they don't list their local number.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...
Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)
--

Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled from
Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a chargeable
Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of International free
numbers. And, btw, whilst the "800" concept originated in North America, using
800 (and 500 in the UK) as a dialling prefix is common in Europe too.

JohnT

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 19 May 2004 15:14:32 -0400, the renowned S Viemeister
wrote:

Madonna wrote:

Miguel Cruz wrote:

Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

In most cases, they CAN be used outside North America - but you will be
charged at standard rates. It won't be a free call.

Interesting. I can't call US-only 1-800 numbers from Canada, for free
or otherwise, there's just no way to do it that I know of. A bit of a
PITA if they don't list their local number.

That might be something to do with the countries having the same country
code? I have no problem calling US 1-800 numbers from the UK at 1p a
minute.

David

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S Viemeister wrote:

Madonna wrote:

Miguel Cruz wrote:

Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

In most cases, they CAN be used outside North America - but you will be
charged at standard rates. It won't be a free call.

That's probably why my Amex travel medical policy tells its
policy-holders to call collect from overseas, although they have an 800
number for the U.S. (However, with the urgent problem the OP
encountered, I'm sure whether or not he'd have to pay for the call was
not uppermost in his mind!)

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Interesting. I can't call US-only 1-800 numbers from Canada, for free
or otherwise, there's just no way to do it that I know of. A bit of a
PITA if they don't list their local number.

Canada is a special case. Because 800-number subscribers can choose where in
the NANPA (country code 1) to accept and fund calls from, if they opt not to
pay for calls from Canada then you'll have to dial them a different way
(possibly substituting 880 for 800?).

miguel

JohnT wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...

Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

Europeans have country-specific 800 numbers, not multi-national like
North America.
In Europe you usually dial 0 before not 001.
For example to reach Creative Labs in Germany you dial 0 800 101 3796
http://uk.europe.creative.com/recall/welcome.asp

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.

Well maybe you can come up with a better site or provide a little bit
more information.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)
Well this service has not always been available. At least not with Bell
Canada.

Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled from
Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a chargeable
Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of International free
numbers.
So how does it work? You use AT&T access number first or use straight
Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix? Or you dial long-distance as if you
were calling a number like NYC zzz-212-xxx-yyyy but use zzz-800-aaa-bbbb
instead?

And, btw, whilst the "800" concept originated in North America, using
800 (and 500 in the UK) as a dialling prefix is common in Europe too.
For country-specifc 800 service. If you watch ads on satellite tv like
SKY they list a dozen toll-free phone numbers, one for each country.

And what about Asia/Australia/... can you dial US or Canadian 800
numbers from Nepal or Japan?

"Madonna" wrote in message
news
JohnT wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...

Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

Europeans have country-specific 800 numbers, not multi-national like
North America.
In Europe you usually dial 0 before not 001.
For example to reach Creative Labs in Germany you dial 0 800 101 3796
http://uk.europe.creative.com/recall/welcome.asp

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.

Well maybe you can come up with a better site or provide a little bit
more information.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)
Well this service has not always been available. At least not with Bell
Canada.

Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled from
Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a
chargeable
Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of International
free
numbers.
So how does it work? You use AT&T access number first or use straight
Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix? Or you dial long-distance as if you
were calling a number like NYC zzz-212-xxx-yyyy but use zzz-800-aaa-bbbb
instead?

And, btw, whilst the "800" concept originated in North America, using
800 (and 500 in the UK) as a dialling prefix is common in Europe too.
For country-specifc 800 service. If you watch ads on satellite tv like
SKY they list a dozen toll-free phone numbers, one for each country.

And what about Asia/Australia/... can you dial US or Canadian 800
numbers from Nepal or Japan?

If the US 800 number is, for example, 1-800-123-4567 then from the UK one would
dial the international access code 00 then the Country code 1 then the number
excluding the US long-distance access code. Thus I would dial 00 1 800 123 4567.
Often there will be a recorded announcemebt saying that the call is chargeable,
and then it is connected.

JohnT

Madonna wrote:
JohnT wrote:
Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled
from Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a
chargeable Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of
International free numbers.

So how does it work? You use AT&T access number first or use straight
Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix?

Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix is for calling numbers that are registered in
Germany. It has nothing to do with calling numbers that are part of the
US/country-code-1 numberspace. To call a number in country code 1, you dial
it just like any other number in country code 1.

Sometimes companies will register numbers in multiple numberspaces to make
things simpler or cheaper for their customers but that is a red herring.

Or you dial long-distance as if you were calling a number like NYC
zzz-212-xxx-yyyy but use zzz-800-aaa-bbbb instead?

As far as the phone system in Germany is concerned, there's no difference
between '800' and '212'. It just some digits that get routed to the US phone
system because the dialing began with '001'. The trick is to stop thinking
of '800' as having some sort of global magic significance.

For country-specifc 800 service. If you watch ads on satellite tv like
SKY they list a dozen toll-free phone numbers, one for each country.

That's completely separate and has nothing to do with the topic of dialing
US toll-free numbers from outside the US.

And what about Asia/Australia/... can you dial US or Canadian 800
numbers from Nepal or Japan?

Most likely.

miguel
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Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu