Historian wants country called 'Siam'

Gordon ,you can interprete in any way you like,

but the Khmer educated scholar in Phnom Penh told me that See-
eme = Siam, means thieve .

So Siam , or Sayam had the bad correlation with the idea of a
thieve in the Khmer language .

It is bad for Thailand to be called Siam again ,
because of this past bad impression .

Siam is the same as See-eme , which is the same as Sayam .

the Royal Thai bank , the Siam Commercial Bank does not put its
original name the Commercial Bank of Siam in Phnom Penh,
instead the Siam Commercial Bnak is called the Asia
Commercial Bank in Phnom Penh .

Siem Reap = the destruction of the Siamese thieve people outside
Angkor Watt .













On Apr 5, 6:02 am, "Gordon" wrote:
On Apr 5, 9:11 am, "Mohammed the Holy Nabi"
wrote:

Siam is a Khmer word meaning " thieves " .

the Khmer town of Siem -Reap near to Angkor Watt ,
Siem -Reap means the destruction of the thieves .

this meaning of Siam = Sayam = the barbarian thieves , is not
good for Thailand .

Thai people have migrated from the Black River in Northern Vietnam
into the central plain of the Issan , which was Khmer's territory .

the name Siam has a Khmer origine, pronounced as See-em.

OMG -- Did you invent this info yourself, or discover a source?

If, as you say, Siam is pronounced "See-em" in Khmer and this means
"thieves" then Siam , pronounced "Sai-am"
a. Does not mean thieves in Khmer
b. Does not mean thieves in Thai
c. Does not mean the same in Thai as in Khmer (and neither does "See-
em"!)
d. Surely would never have been the name of the country if it did, in
either form, mean thieves.

On Apr 6, 9:17 am, "Mohammed the Holy Nabi"
wrote:
Gordon ,you can interprete in any way you like,

but the Khmer educated scholar in Phnom Penh told me that See-
eme = Siam, means thieve .

So Siam , or Sayam had the bad correlation with the idea of a
thieve in the Khmer language .

It is bad for Thailand to be called Siam again ,
because of this past bad impression .

Siam is the same as See-eme , which is the same as Sayam .

the Royal Thai bank , the Siam Commercial Bank does not put its
original name the Commercial Bank of Siam in Phnom Penh,
instead the Siam Commercial Bnak is called the Asia
Commercial Bank in Phnom Penh .

Siem Reap = the destruction of the Siamese thieve people outside
Angkor Watt .

On Apr 5, 6:02 am, "Gordon" wrote: On Apr 5, 9:11 am, "Mohammed the Holy Nabi"
wrote:

Siam is a Khmer word meaning " thieves " .

the Khmer town of Siem -Reap near to Angkor Watt ,
Siem -Reap means the destruction of the thieves .

this meaning of Siam = Sayam = the barbarian thieves , is not
good for Thailand .

Thai people have migrated from the Black River in Northern Vietnam
into the central plain of the Issan , which was Khmer's territory .

the name Siam has a Khmer origine, pronounced as See-em.

OMG -- Did you invent this info yourself, or discover a source?

If, as you say, Siam is pronounced "See-em" in Khmer and this means
"thieves" then Siam , pronounced "Sai-am"
a. Does not mean thieves in Khmer
b. Does not mean thieves in Thai
c. Does not mean the same in Thai as in Khmer (and neither does "See-
em"!)
d. Surely would never have been the name of the country if it did, in
either form, mean thieves.

Dear Mohammed:

1) Siam is pronounced Sayam (read the old textures of the Portuguese
missionaries coming here) Google may be your friend for that including
to help pronounce it.
2) What ever the Khmen (Khmer) call SIAM it is of no interest to a
country that has a nearly 10 time larger population. Must be the same
as when a mosquito stings an elephant!
3) For your information: a chili in Thai language is called a "PRICK"
- now we don't change the word for it and still eat them chillies...
What some Khmers want to imply is their problem!
Incidentally tell (here in Thailand) to a lady that she looks like a
KHMEN (Khmer people) - she will be insulted - so?

Different meaning in different languages so?

Cheers
Chabby

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On Apr 6, 9:17 am, "Mohammed the Holy Nabi"
wrote:
Gordon ,you can interprete in any way you like,

but the Khmer educated scholar in Phnom Penh told me that See-
eme = Siam, means thieve .

So Siam , or Sayam had the bad correlation with the idea of a
thieve in the Khmer language .

It is bad for Thailand to be called Siam again ,
because of this past bad impression .

Siam is the same as See-eme , which is the same as Sayam .

the Royal Thai bank , the Siam Commercial Bank does not put its
original name the Commercial Bank of Siam in Phnom Penh,
instead the Siam Commercial Bnak is called the Asia
Commercial Bank in Phnom Penh .

Siem Reap = the destruction of the Siamese thieve people outside
Angkor Watt .

On Apr 5, 6:02 am, "Gordon" wrote: On Apr 5, 9:11 am, "Mohammed the Holy Nabi"
wrote:

Siam is a Khmer word meaning " thieves " .

the Khmer town of Siem -Reap near to Angkor Watt ,
Siem -Reap means the destruction of the thieves .

this meaning of Siam = Sayam = the barbarian thieves , is not
good for Thailand .

Thai people have migrated from the Black River in Northern Vietnam
into the central plain of the Issan , which was Khmer's territory .

the name Siam has a Khmer origine, pronounced as See-em.

OMG -- Did you invent this info yourself, or discover a source?

If, as you say, Siam is pronounced "See-em" in Khmer and this means
"thieves" then Siam , pronounced "Sai-am"
a. Does not mean thieves in Khmer
b. Does not mean thieves in Thai
c. Does not mean the same in Thai as in Khmer (and neither does "See-
em"!)
d. Surely would never have been the name of the country if it did, in
either form, mean thieves.

Dear Mohammed:

1) Siam is pronounced Sayam (read the old textures of the Portuguese
missionaries coming here) Google may be your friend for that including
to help pronounce it.

ayatollah chabby,
i agree with you on this.
incidentally, i don't know if encik mohammed is a malay, bumiputra or just a
handle.
or he may be a khmer
but to a chinese (i included) to call a person a "see em" is very derogatory.
we have the phrase" see em kia" similar to "huang kia" meaning in the
etymological way "aboriginal children of the mountains- uncouth, uneducated,
stupid, gullible........... "



2) What ever the Khmen (Khmer) call SIAM it is of no interest to a
country that has a nearly 10 time larger population. Must be the same
as when a mosquito stings an elephant!
3) For your information: a chili in Thai language is called a "PRICK"
- now we don't change the word for it and still eat them chillies...
What some Khmers want to imply is their problem!
55555555555555555555555555555555555

Incidentally tell (here in Thailand) to a lady that she looks like a
KHMEN (Khmer people) - she will be insulted - so?

Different meaning in different languages so?
touche

Cheers
Chabby

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well , different people have different interpretations ,
the Thai came from North Vietnam , where they are still living .
and in China 's Quan-xi province , the Thai ancestors were called
the Zhuang tribe ,which was changed
from their original name the Tong tribe during the Song
Dynasty .

So the lands of central Thailand used to belong to the Mon- Khmer
kingdoms .
The Thai people came from North Vietnam into this Khmer territory ,
Lop Buri, Surin , Buriram .
So the Khmer people called the Thai as Siem ,which later became
Siam , or Sayam ,
because the Thai people took Khmer 's territory of Buriram , and
Surin and Lop Buri .

BTW. Sukothai was also Khmer' s territory .

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well , different people have different interpretations ,
the Thai came from North Vietnam , where they are still living .
and in China 's Quan-xi province , the Thai ancestors were called
the Zhuang tribe ,which was changed
from their original name the Tong tribe during the Song
Dynasty .

So the lands of central Thailand used to belong to the Mon- Khmer
kingdoms .
The Thai people came from North Vietnam into this Khmer territory ,
Lop Buri, Surin , Buriram .
So the Khmer people called the Thai as Siem ,which later became
Siam , or Sayam ,
because the Thai people took Khmer 's territory of Buriram , and
Surin and Lop Buri .

BTW. Sukothai was also Khmer' s territory .



geeeeeeeeeeez "the **** of Saint Mary of Nazareth" aka komin who used to
bolero "the chinese inside xxx is taking zzz land , using ccc passports,, ..."
now speaks with authority .

hey, komin, keep this up man!

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Pluto ,

Ja,
Chinese race took Malay's native lands,
Chinese race took Singapore from the Malay people ,

Vietnamese took Cham native lands in Central Vietnam ,
'Thai took Khmer 's lands of Buriram , Surin , Lop Buri , and
Sukothai .
the Chinese race took Manchu's native lands of Manchuria .

the Chinese race has taken Lao's native lands of Ponsaly .








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well , different people have different interpretations ,
the Thai came from North Vietnam , where they are still living .
and in China 's Quan-xi province , the Thai ancestors were called
the Zhuang tribe ,which was changed
from their original name the Tong tribe during the Song
Dynasty .

So the lands of central Thailand used to belong to the Mon- Khmer
kingdoms .
The Thai people came from North Vietnam into this Khmer territory ,
Lop Buri, Surin , Buriram .
So the Khmer people called the Thai as Siem ,which later became
Siam , or Sayam ,
because the Thai people took Khmer 's territory of Buriram , and
Surin and Lop Buri .

BTW. Sukothai was also Khmer' s territory .

geeeeeeeeeeez "the **** of Saint Mary of Nazareth" aka komin who used to
bolero "the chinese inside xxx is taking zzz land , using ccc passports,, ..."
now speaks with authority .

hey, komin, keep this up man!

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Pluto ,

Ja,
Chinese race took Malay's native lands,
Chinese race took Singapore from the Malay people ,

Vietnamese took Cham native lands in Central Vietnam ,
'Thai took Khmer 's lands of Buriram , Surin , Lop Buri , and
Sukothai .
the Chinese race took Manchu's native lands of Manchuria .

the Chinese race has taken Lao's native lands of Ponsaly .


oh ****, ****,

first there is no such thing as chinese race

chinese is not a race
thai is not a race
malay is not a race
vietnamese is not a race
laotian is not a race
japanese is not a race
filipno/a is not a race
blah blah blah

the people of asia belongs to the asian race

got it?

hi ,no name there nemo,

you are insulting the Chinese when you said there is no such
thing as a Chinese race .

the Chinese wanted their own Chinese separate Identity in
Malaysia different from that of the Malays, the Chinese still
want their own separate Identity now inside Malaysia , this means
the Chinese want their own racial identity inside Malaysia .

the Chinese race in Malaysia wanted their own Chinese education ,
their own Chinese writing inside Malaysia, thei own Chinese
grouping inside Malaysia,
this means the Chinese inside Malaysia want to preserve themselves
as a separate race inside Malaysia. Just like Jews in the
Middle East .

The Chinese race is a very distinct racial group which
infiltrated into SE asia ,
into Thailand , into Myanma , into Tibet , into Malaysia, into
Indonesia , etc ....

may the Chinese in China forgive you for your suggestion that there
is no such thing as a Chinese race .
the Chinese race in China would kill you for that .

If there is no such thing as a Chinese race , why is the
Chinese race so angry about the Nanjing incident ?
Do you think the Japs were killing Manchu-s in the Nanjing
incident ?
If the Japs were killing Manchu-s in Nanjing in the last century ?
why is the Chinese government insisting on the propaganda for the
Nanjing Incident ?

you must be very stupid to have suggested there is no thing as a
Chinese race.

why don' t you tell the US immigration Department that there is no
such thing as a Chinese race ?
why don' t you tell the US immigration department that there is no
such nation as China ?

May the Chinese in this world forgive you for your wrong suggestion
that there is no such thing as a Chinese race in this world .

you must be mentally retarded .

























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Pluto ,

Ja,
Chinese race took Malay's native lands,
Chinese race took Singapore from the Malay people ,

Vietnamese took Cham native lands in Central Vietnam ,
'Thai took Khmer 's lands of Buriram , Surin , Lop Buri , and
Sukothai .
the Chinese race took Manchu's native lands of Manchuria .

the Chinese race has taken Lao's native lands of Ponsaly .

oh ****, ****,

first there is no such thing as chinese race

chinese is not a race
thai is not a race
malay is not a race
vietnamese is not a race
laotian is not a race
japanese is not a race
filipno/a is not a race
blah blah blah

the people of asia belongs to the asian race

got it?

the Thai historians want to re- name Thailand as Siam ,


the Chinese who hold Malay' s passports want to call Malaysia as
the Chinese Republic of Malaysia .

they all have their points of virew .








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well , different people have different interpretations ,
the Thai came from North Vietnam , where they are still living .
and in China 's Quan-xi province , the Thai ancestors were called
the Zhuang tribe ,which was changed
from their original name the Tong tribe during the Song
Dynasty .

So the lands of central Thailand used to belong to the Mon- Khmer
kingdoms .
The Thai people came from North Vietnam into this Khmer territory ,
Lop Buri, Surin , Buriram .
So the Khmer people called the Thai as Siem ,which later became
Siam , or Sayam ,
because the Thai people took Khmer 's territory of Buriram , and
Surin and Lop Buri .

BTW. Sukothai was also Khmer' s territory .

geeeeeeeeeeez "the **** of Saint Mary of Nazareth" aka komin who used to
bolero "the chinese inside xxx is taking zzz land , using ccc passports,, ..."
now speaks with authority .

hey, komin, keep this up man!

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the Chinese military is preparing for China 's first 2 air-
craft carriers ,
China' s ability to launch air craft carriers is still to be
proven ,
but China' s military planners are certainly looking to run 2 air
-craft carriers in 10 year's time .


the construction cost for each air-craft carrier according to
Chinese standard ,
is projected to be approx 50 billion US$ each ,
this will include all future jet fighters and radar systems .
the projected running cost for future Chinese air craft carrier
will be 4.5 billion US /annum per carrier .

Why does the Chinese need air craft carriers ?

Yesterday , on the Phoenix Satelite TV programe,
Chinese experts explained that because ,
China's jet fighters are able to project Chinese 's
air fighting power to a maximum radius of 700km into the sea
from a land base .
China needs an air craft carrier to protect China's submarine
fleet which is operating in a radius of 1400km from China's sea
coast ,
thus China needs to have Chinese air craft carriers to support
her Chinese sub fleet in the Pacific .

This will have a strong impact on the Malaysian territorial water
and Malaysian nation ,

because the Chinese race controls the majority of the wealth of the
Malay nation .

In the next few decades ,
if the Chinese , who hold Malay' s passports ,
decide to go for Chinese 's Independence inside Malaysia,
the Chinese who hold Malay's passports ,
will demand for their Chinese share of Malay's national
territory .

The Chinese race which holds Malay's passports ,
will in the future try to balkanise the Malay nation , and
will demand for their Chinese part of their Chinese Malaysia,
so ,
with the future Chinese air craft carrier in preparation ,
the Chinese race which hold Malay's passports ,
will demand for China' s help in the splitting up the Malaysia,
and
in the taking of Malay' s national terrtory and resources.

So the future Chinese air- craft Carrier will be helpful to the
Chinese claim
for Malay's resouces [ oil + gaz + rubbers ] , and
the future Chinese air - craft carrier will determine the Chinese
claim on Malaysia's territory , which the Chinese [ who
hold Malay's passports ], are claiming to be their legal and
rightful Chinese onwership.

in short , the Chinese are preparing to build their Chinese air
craft carriers,
in order to exert their Chinese claim over Malay's territory ,
and over Malay's natural resources with the explicit complice
of the Chinese , who are holding Malay's passports inside Malaysia .

So the Malays should be more careful about the Chinese threat to
Malaysia ,
especially with so many Chinese workers coming now into Malaysia.

























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Pluto ,

Ja,
Chinese race took Malay's native lands,
Chinese race took Singapore from the Malay people ,

Vietnamese took Cham native lands in Central Vietnam ,
'Thai took Khmer 's lands of Buriram , Surin , Lop Buri , and
Sukothai .
the Chinese race took Manchu's native lands of Manchuria .

the Chinese race has taken Lao's native lands of Ponsaly .

oh ****, ****,

first there is no such thing as chinese race

chinese is not a race
thai is not a race
malay is not a race
vietnamese is not a race
laotian is not a race
japanese is not a race
filipno/a is not a race
blah blah blah

the people of asia belongs to the asian race

got it?