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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:38:58 -0000, "JohnT" wrote:


"Erilar" wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.

Only because you don't live in Germany.

Ah, but I follow events there and I HAVE lived there in the past.
Besides,
they have the best bread in the world!

Some German bread is tolerably good. I assume that you are not familiar with
Poilane.

and didn't eat French bread as a matter of principle.

A fresh baguette is good, but on my lone French trip I eas more often
offered stale pieces.
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

Martin wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:15:18 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.

Only because you don't live in Germany.

Ah, but I follow events there and I HAVE lived there in the past.

Lived long term or just visited? Paid both German and US income tax at the same
time?

Besides,
they have the best bread in the world!

Make your own bread and stay at home.

I do all of the former and a lot of the latter. When not doing the latter,
I've learned they have pretty good bread in Scandinavia generally.
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.

Only because you don't live in Germany.

Ah, but I follow events there and I HAVE lived there in the past. Besides,
they have the best bread in the world!

Some German bread is tolerably good. I assume that you are not familiar with Poilane.

In a year and I half there I kept finding new kinds and all were delicious.
Now I make my own to avoid the mixture of pallid flour, water, and
chemicals so popular in the US. Even non-white bread here has lists of
chemicals in it.
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...
"terrable" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
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The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.


Do you read the daily German news ?

More rational ?

A country with multiple groups of radical leftists, neo-nazis and other
wackos.

At least they aren't paralyzing the government like our right-wing wackos.


Does one read into this that Erilar isn't totally in favour of Ms Palin?

At least she's still not elected to any office, unlike the horrible Cruz!
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

Am Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:59:22 +0100 schrieb Tom P:

I'm not talking about a residence permit. A life certificate is an
official proof that you are alive and not dead.

Never heard of something like that here in Germany. What you usually have
is a "Familienstammbuch", that's a book where you collect all important
documents regarding your family (birth certificate, certificate of
marriage...).

Regards,

Frank

Am Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) schrieb Erilar:

You're allowed to live in this country, but often not allowed to vote.

Depends on your status. English people living legally in Germany can vote
in European elections (at the same place where the Germans vote), but not
in national elections. For that, you'll need a Germany citizienship - which
did become much easier to obtain some years ago, for most European
nationalities you can legally keep your old passport and nationality and
get a German one, too.

Regards,

Frank

Am Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:35:31 -0700 schrieb EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque):

Unfortunately, the only places I would WANT to live (Vienna, Brussels or
Paris) are too expensive for one with limited means. The same is true
for many places in the U.S., alas. Also, Medicare (and American brands
of medical insurance) do not cover me in Europe. That's a factor a
great many Americans don't realize until they need medical care abroad.

At least in Germany you have to have a medical-insurence that is valid for
Germany, otherwise you won't get a visa. They have short-term insurances
for people visiting up to a few weeks, if you stay longer, you have to get
a normal German health-insurance. If you're employed at a Germany company,
you'll have one anyway, otherwise you have to find a private insurance that
insures you (can be difficult if you are already older and not in perfect
health).

(The rest of the civilized world has medical coverage for all its
citizens, with reciprocal agreements in place for citizens who travel.)

Right.

Regards,

Frank

Am Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:59:53 -0500 schrieb terrable:

"Erilar" wrote in message
...
The election results are in. i really want to move to Germany. Politics
strike me as more rational there.


Do you read the daily German news ?

More rational ?

A country with multiple groups of radical leftists, neo-nazis and other
wackos.

A country with multiday riots.

It's not as bad as you point it. Yes, there was a demonstration by
right-wing Hooligans against Salafists. There was a bit of a quarrel in
which a police car was turned on the side. And drunken yobs trying to get
the police into a fight.
Things like this can happen after a normal Saturday-afternoon
football-games as well.

Hundreds of Salafis and Kurds fight in the streets.

Thousands of Salafis and football hooligans/neo-nazis fight in the streets.

There were no Salafis who did fight. It's a rather small group in Germany,
a few hundred maybe. Most of the Turkish Muslims here don't like the
Salafists, and at the Hooligan-demonstration the kurds and right-wing turks
did march together with the hooligans.

It's not a thing that effects you in normal everyday life, ordinary people
normally don't get cought up in these things. It's more like a pub-brawl,
those who get involved want to get involved.

Regards,

Frank

Am Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:51:20 +0100 schrieb Martin:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:10:04 +0100, Frank Hucklenbroich
wrote:

Am Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:59:22 +0100 schrieb Tom P:

I'm not talking about a residence permit. A life certificate is an
official proof that you are alive and not dead.

Never heard of something like that here in Germany. What you usually have
is a "Familienstammbuch", that's a book where you collect all important
documents regarding your family (birth certificate, certificate of
marriage...).

In the Netherlands you obtain in person a current extract from the population
register to prove that you are still alive. UK must be one of the few places
that pays a state pension without requiring annual proof that the recipient is
still alive.

In the UK some people don't even have a passport. Once you don't travel
abroad, you don't need one.
They don't have a register-office either. If you want to open a bank
account, you bring something like your last gas bill.

Regards,

Frank

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:13:33 +0100, Frank Hucklenbroich
wrote:

Am Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:51:20 +0100 schrieb Martin:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:10:04 +0100, Frank Hucklenbroich
wrote:

Am Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:59:22 +0100 schrieb Tom P:

I'm not talking about a residence permit. A life certificate is an
official proof that you are alive and not dead.

Never heard of something like that here in Germany. What you usually have
is a "Familienstammbuch", that's a book where you collect all important
documents regarding your family (birth certificate, certificate of
marriage...).

In the Netherlands you obtain in person a current extract from the population
register to prove that you are still alive. UK must be one of the few places
that pays a state pension without requiring annual proof that the recipient is
still alive.

In the UK some people don't even have a passport. Once you don't travel
abroad, you don't need one.
They don't have a register-office either. If you want to open a bank
account, you bring something like your last gas bill.

Not any more.

Now you need proof of address and a photo ID of some kind.

Your gas bill and driving license will do.