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How US helped Iraq build deadly arsenal
Vector wrote in message . ..
On 13 Jan 2004 18:35:27 -0800, (Tchiowa) wrote: Again, the statement made was the the US supported Saddam while he was gassing Kurds. And yes, the US clearly did as I will now demonstrate, ignore or deny it as you will - from the US President, US Government, US Citizens from the coalmines of Kentucky to the California sun,to American Moms Dads and US Taxpayers one and all in there boots and all feeding greenbacks as fast as they could to their old mate Uncle Saddam in various forms of financial assistance from subsdidies to loan guarantees. Perhaps it would be easier if you learned proper English first so that you wouldn't write unintelligible sentences like the one above. I guess that includes you too Tchiowa - hence your dumb-ox denial of incontrovertible facts, presumably to salve your own teenage conscience or the guilt of your parents. Thank you for admitting that you lost the argument. Ad hominem attacks like the one you just pulled are an admission that you have no logical argument left. See here - "The loan guarantees amounted to a massive US subsidy that allowed Hussein to launch his overt and covert arms buildup, one result being that the Iran-Iraq war entered a bloody five-year stalemate. Yes, I saw. Not news or facts. Someone's opinion. Does not even begin to prove the accuracy of the statement under discussion. Unless you have some interplanetary method of measuring time this DOES span the entire period both before, during and after that US Americans financially (and morally - remember they had Intel) supported Saddam while he merrily gassed the Kurds, and I might add from US supplied helos. It proves nothing of the sort. It proves that the US did business with Iraq. The US and France do business with each other. Does that mean that the French support Bush or that America supports Chirac? Your argument is nonsensical in relation to the statement under discussion. The statement was not "US businesses imported or exported to Iraq after the attack" or anything like that. A very specific statement. And it simply isn't true. And nothing you posted contradicts that. See above! I did.. Again, you posted nothing that supported the statement under discussion. Furthermore what was posted previously certainly does contradict your ridiculous denial - FYI all of those trade deals required State Department approval - which was willingly given. Which still does not support the specific statement. And don't bother asking for a reference to the quote above - locate it yourself - if you can - mindless trolling idiot. Again, thank you for admitting you have no logical argument left. This was too easy. 55555. Oh, and posting crap from "GreenLeft.org", an *EXTREME* left wing Aussie group that openly advocates socialism simply proves how far out in space you are. |
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"Tchiowa" wrote in message om... SNIP Oh, and posting crap from "GreenLeft.org", an *EXTREME* left wing Aussie group that openly advocates socialism simply proves how far out in space you are. Hang on a minute sport. Socialism ? Since when is this name tag so bad? Enlighten me/us on the merits of *your preferred system* and its historical record. Thank you in anticipation DN |
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"DN" wrote in message ...
"Tchiowa" wrote in message om... SNIP Oh, and posting crap from "GreenLeft.org", an *EXTREME* left wing Aussie group that openly advocates socialism simply proves how far out in space you are. Hang on a minute sport. Socialism ? Since when is this name tag so bad? Since it's been proven to be destructive. People suffer in the long run. Enlighten me/us on the merits of *your preferred system* and its historical record. Capitalism. More people have benefited in more ways in the long run from capitalism. The core belief in Socialism is "Redistribution of Wealth". The core belief in Capitalism is "Creation of Wealth". Socialism is a zero sum game. To help one person you must hurt another person. Capitalism helps everyone. Some benefit more than others. But even the worst off are better under Capitalism than Socialism. |
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"Tchiowa" wrote in message om... More people have benefited in more ways in the long run from capitalism. FMD Tell that to Adidas sweat shop workers, you naive, privileged (and probably overfed) parrot. |
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"matt weber" wrote in message ... They certainly went about acquiring the technology to build such an arsenal, and the kindest words I can say are the US Government at least tacitly approved of what was going on by issuing validated export licenses for the transactions. I know because was involved in several of them, I guess the only saving grace, is it was the Kuwaiti's who actually sold the gear. I sourced it for the Kuwaiti's in the USA, and obtained the required export licenses that showed the Ultimate Consignee as the National Engineering Center at the University of Baghdad... Well, don't keep us on the edge of our seats, Matt. What was the purpose of the gear? Centrifuges? |
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"Tchiowa" wrote in message om... SNIP Enlighten me/us on the merits of *your preferred system* and its historical record. Capitalism. More people have benefited in more ways in the long run from capitalism. You do mean Alan Bond, the Late Skace, the Late Laurie Connell, current money handlers of NAB, AMP., ANSET and the seven year list of hearings to be heard by our Courts of other financial misadventures ? And that leaves Japan, USA, UK etc yet unmentioned, in the list of those who we look up to as proof that capitalism is the way to go? Pull the other leg ;-) The core belief in Socialism is "Redistribution of Wealth". The core belief in Capitalism is "Creation of Wealth". Where does land speculation, or for that matter any monetary speculation fit in on this deal of wealth creation? Speculation in Real estate for example, does not create anything other than a bill to be paid by later generations surely? Socialism is a zero sum game. To help one person you must hurt another person. Capitalism helps everyone. Some benefit more than others. But even the worst off are better under Capitalism than Socialism. If Socialism is a zero game, then based on what was discussed earlier in this post, Capitalism must be a minus (negative) game. Oh, why we are about it, how old is your system? DN |
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