First time travel - Thailand

On Feb 1, 7:47 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:
On Feb 1, 7:34 pm, Markku Grönroos wrote:

"Tchiowa" kirjoitti
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Avoid Khao San Road like the plague unless you're part of the "druggie
shower once every other week" crowd.

However, I have never seen a "drug scene" there (I don't know whether this
is what you are saying about it though).

There is a fairly significant drug scene there. It is one of the
places that people go to get X, pot, etc. Look at the backpacker or
druggie discussion groups, or threads here in Usenet where someone
asks "Can I get X in Thailand" and they always point people to KSR.

Absolutely not. The KSR is full of undercover cops, and no one would
dare buy from a Thai there (and no Thai dealer would sell there). As
for the foreigners, most of them have just gotten off (or are about to
get back on) the plane and have nothing on them. If people are
looking for drugs, they might go to KSR to meet people who could hook
them up, but they wouldn't buy there or use there. The full moon
parties have gotten much stricter policing lately also.

On Feb 2, 8:05 am, wrote:
On Feb 1, 7:47 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:

On Feb 1, 7:34 pm, Markku Grönroos wrote:

"Tchiowa" kirjoitti
glegroups.com...

Avoid Khao San Road like the plague unless you're part of the "druggie
shower once every other week" crowd.

However, I have never seen a "drug scene" there (I don't know whether this
is what you are saying about it though).

There is a fairly significant drug scene there. It is one of the
places that people go to get X, pot, etc. Look at the backpacker or
druggie discussion groups, or threads here in Usenet where someone
asks "Can I get X in Thailand" and they always point people to KSR.

Absolutely not. The KSR is full of undercover cops, and no one would
dare buy from a Thai there (and no Thai dealer would sell there). As
for the foreigners, most of them have just gotten off (or are about to
get back on) the plane and have nothing on them. If people are
looking for drugs, they might go to KSR to meet people who could hook
them up, but they wouldn't buy there or use there. The full moon
parties have gotten much stricter policing lately also.

OK, let's ask one simple question. If there is no drug problem there,
if that is not one of the centers of drug trafficking to farang in
Thailand, why is the place full of undercover cops looking for drug
activity?

OK, they may not use there but they go there to "hook up" as you
phrase it. So the place is crawling with druggies looking to "hook
up". Why would you want to go there if the place is infested with
those types (and "infested" is a pretty accurate word)?

On Feb 1, 8:55 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:05 am, wrote:



On Feb 1, 7:47 pm, "Tchiowa" wrote:

On Feb 1, 7:34 pm, Markku Grönroos wrote:

"Tchiowa" kirjoitti
glegroups.com...

Avoid Khao San Road like the plague unless you're part of the "druggie
shower once every other week" crowd.

However, I have never seen a "drug scene" there (I don't know whether this
is what you are saying about it though).

There is a fairly significant drug scene there. It is one of the
places that people go to get X, pot, etc. Look at the backpacker or
druggie discussion groups, or threads here in Usenet where someone
asks "Can I get X in Thailand" and they always point people to KSR.

Absolutely not. The KSR is full of undercover cops, and no one would
dare buy from a Thai there (and no Thai dealer would sell there). As
for the foreigners, most of them have just gotten off (or are about to
get back on) the plane and have nothing on them. If people are
looking for drugs, they might go to KSR to meet people who could hook
them up, but they wouldn't buy there or use there. The full moon
parties have gotten much stricter policing lately also.

OK, let's ask one simple question. If there is no drug problem there,
if that is not one of the centers of drug trafficking to farang in
Thailand, why is the place full of undercover cops looking for drug
activity?

It may have been a more open drug dealing scene in the past (like the
full moon party was before the crackdowns), or they may just take that
precaution at any area in the country that attracts a large number of
backpackers.

OK, they may not use there but they go there to "hook up" as you
phrase it. So the place is crawling with druggies looking to "hook
up".

Not at all. The place has a huge number of young backpackers, who
represent a total cross section of the backpacking community. Now,
out of that backpacking community there are definitely some people who
use drugs, but it isn't the norm by any means, and if you don't
actively seek the drug scene out you almost certainly won't find it.
I'm told a lot of the drug tourism has moved to Laos and Cambodia now
that Thailand is a lot stricter.

Why would you want to go there if the place is infested with
those types (and "infested" is a pretty accurate word)?

I'd rather be around backpackers than sex tourists any day. You meet
people from all over the world and from many walks of life who
backpack, and many of them are quite well-traveled, and are a good
source for both travel advice and travel stories, as well as possible
travel companions.

"Tchiowa" kirjoitti
legroups.com...
On Feb 1, 7:34 pm, Markku Grönroos wrote:
"Tchiowa" kirjoitti
glegroups.com...

Avoid Khao San Road like the plague unless you're part of the "druggie
shower once every other week" crowd.

Tourists hardly miss anything if they decided to stay away from Khao San.

Agreed.

However, I have never seen a "drug scene" there (I don't know whether this
is what you are saying about it though).

There is a fairly significant drug scene there. It is one of the
places that people go to get X, pot, etc. Look at the backpacker or
druggie discussion groups, or threads here in Usenet where someone
asks "Can I get X in Thailand" and they always point people to KSR.
The locals are well aware of the situation. The middle class Thai
avoid the place.
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What the middle class Thais do is their business. Let's put it this way
then: I have never used drugs in Khao San (nor anywhere else). Nobody has
ever approached me in any business related with drugs. I cannot point anyone
who has been intoxicated from pot but on the other hand how should I know
under what "recreational substances" other folks are influenced. This very
strip is very cosy. I have never felt anyhow intimidated or harrassed. I
have not spent much time at Khao San. A couple of times I have arrived in
there in afternoon to rent a computer for a while and to have a couple of
beers while I dine.

On Jan 30, 10:54 am, wrote:
I am going to Thailand for 2 weeks on March 11th, this is my first
time there.
Any helpful hints on places to go/eat/see/experience or places NOT to
go would be most helpful to me,
All helpful replies welcomed,
Thanks, John

I am thinking of heading south from BKK on the "coast" train ? anyone
know anything about that ? how long it takes to wherever ? where it
goes to ? what it is like ? where it goes from ?