Cruise - New York

We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.

On Jan 17, 12:47*pm, Barbara Brown wrote:
We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.

Hi, Barbara,

FYI, there are three cruise terminals in the New York area! Per HAL's
page with New York port information, the Eurodam will sail into
Manhattan Cruise Terminal on the Hudson:
http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise...tDetail.action

Newark and La Guardia are the closest airports, but as you can see
from the mileage and drive time estimates on the port information
page, JFK isn't that much farther/more costly for taxi/ground transfer
if your best deal or flight itinerary is JFK. It all depends on what
airline service is available to your home airport(s). Identifying the
most convenient air itinerary that is also a reasonable price to
embark in Amsterdam and return home from NYC will require some work
and creativity, and especially in view of the Labor Day factor, I'd
sure want to check all possibilities, as pricing will probably be
high. Get your TA to explore this for you and to also learn what cost
HAL is extending, as in these kinds of cases, cruise air is sometimes
the best economic deal (although you can't control your airline or
itinerary without paying a deviation fee).

Your hotel options are limited only by your budget, location
preferences and lodging needs/tastes/loyalty programs. The terminal's
at 12th and 55th, which is really convenient to the touristy areas
nearby, e.g., Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Time Square, etc. But
to maximize your one night in the city, you'll probably want to
consider choosing your hotel locale based on how/where you want to
spend that night. (You may also want to get your flight in place first
to be sure you don't need to stay in an airport hotel to catch a very
early flight.)

That's an extremely interesting itinerary! Hope it works out for you.

Good luck,

Diana Ball
Austin, TX

D Ball wrote On 1/17/2010 5:04 PM:
On Jan 17, 12:47 pm, Barbara Brown wrote:

We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.


Hi, Barbara,

FYI, there are three cruise terminals in the New York area! Per HAL's
page with New York port information, the Eurodam will sail into
Manhattan Cruise Terminal on the Hudson:
http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise...tDetail.action

Newark and La Guardia are the closest airports, but as you can see
from the mileage and drive time estimates on the port information
page, JFK isn't that much farther/more costly for taxi/ground transfer
if your best deal or flight itinerary is JFK. It all depends on what
airline service is available to your home airport(s). Identifying the
most convenient air itinerary that is also a reasonable price to
embark in Amsterdam and return home from NYC will require some work
and creativity, and especially in view of the Labor Day factor, I'd
sure want to check all possibilities, as pricing will probably be
high. Get your TA to explore this for you and to also learn what cost
HAL is extending, as in these kinds of cases, cruise air is sometimes
the best economic deal (although you can't control your airline or
itinerary without paying a deviation fee).

Your hotel options are limited only by your budget, location
preferences and lodging needs/tastes/loyalty programs. The terminal's
at 12th and 55th, which is really convenient to the touristy areas
nearby, e.g., Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Time Square, etc. But
to maximize your one night in the city, you'll probably want to
consider choosing your hotel locale based on how/where you want to
spend that night. (You may also want to get your flight in place first
to be sure you don't need to stay in an airport hotel to catch a very
early flight.)

That's an extremely interesting itinerary! Hope it works out for you.

Good luck,

Diana Ball
Austin, TX

If you can book any other time but Labor Day Weekend it would be the
wise choice. In the New York Metro area it is a peak travel time. Also,
hotels book very early and are often double or triple the rates at any
other time of the year. If they aren't, you probably wouldn't want to
stay there anyway. I happen to live in New Jersey. In addition to
increased air and rail traffic, it is also peak for auto traffic.
Arteries heading to/from shore points or mountain lakes are often
clogged with traffic. As for JFK, you won't want to be on the Long
Island Express or any other artery into Manhattan, as many of those
driving to the New Jersey Shore and other beaches will be on these
roads. When I lived in Lavallette, NJ a Jersey Shore resort town, I
avoided traveling anywhere other then walking to my front yard and
diving off my dock. The week after Labor Day is off-season for lake and
shore resorts. Highway traffic drops off considerably. Your travel
time from major airports, hotel and cruise port will be less hectic and
your hotel stay may be less. Heed the advice of others and use a travel
agent who specializes in cruises and has extensive experience with the
New York Metro area during Labor Day.

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Thanks for all the information. We have our flights (we're using
frequent flyer miles). We leave out of JFK at 3:10 pm. on Tuesday the
day after labor day. So with the ship coming in on Monday morning, we
have Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning to see anything in NY. Not
sure what yet, we've both been there. If we stayed by JFK is there
reasonable/safe transportation into the city? I know it not like London.


On 1/17/2010 4:04 PM, D Ball wrote:
On Jan 17, 12:47 pm, Barbara wrote:
We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.

Hi, Barbara,

FYI, there are three cruise terminals in the New York area! Per HAL's
page with New York port information, the Eurodam will sail into
Manhattan Cruise Terminal on the Hudson:
http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise...tDetail.action

Newark and La Guardia are the closest airports, but as you can see
from the mileage and drive time estimates on the port information
page, JFK isn't that much farther/more costly for taxi/ground transfer
if your best deal or flight itinerary is JFK. It all depends on what
airline service is available to your home airport(s). Identifying the
most convenient air itinerary that is also a reasonable price to
embark in Amsterdam and return home from NYC will require some work
and creativity, and especially in view of the Labor Day factor, I'd
sure want to check all possibilities, as pricing will probably be
high. Get your TA to explore this for you and to also learn what cost
HAL is extending, as in these kinds of cases, cruise air is sometimes
the best economic deal (although you can't control your airline or
itinerary without paying a deviation fee).

Your hotel options are limited only by your budget, location
preferences and lodging needs/tastes/loyalty programs. The terminal's
at 12th and 55th, which is really convenient to the touristy areas
nearby, e.g., Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Time Square, etc. But
to maximize your one night in the city, you'll probably want to
consider choosing your hotel locale based on how/where you want to
spend that night. (You may also want to get your flight in place first
to be sure you don't need to stay in an airport hotel to catch a very
early flight.)

That's an extremely interesting itinerary! Hope it works out for you.

Good luck,

Diana Ball
Austin, TX

There's a train(tram) that runs from the airport to the Long Island
Railroad.
There you can take the LIRR to Penn Station in Manhatten. From there you
can see almost anything. It should cost less than $10 per person each way.
You can get a transit pass in Manhatten for sightseeing, it might be good
for a couple of days, check it out. A cab ride could be a bit more but
a little more convenient.
Joe


"Barbara Brown" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all the information. We have our flights (we're using frequent
flyer miles). We leave out of JFK at 3:10 pm. on Tuesday the day after
labor day. So with the ship coming in on Monday morning, we have Monday
afternoon and Tuesday morning to see anything in NY. Not sure what yet,
we've both been there. If we stayed by JFK is there reasonable/safe
transportation into the city? I know it not like London.


On 1/17/2010 4:04 PM, D Ball wrote:
On Jan 17, 12:47 pm, Barbara wrote:
We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.

Hi, Barbara,

FYI, there are three cruise terminals in the New York area! Per HAL's
page with New York port information, the Eurodam will sail into
Manhattan Cruise Terminal on the Hudson:
http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise...tDetail.action

Newark and La Guardia are the closest airports, but as you can see
from the mileage and drive time estimates on the port information
page, JFK isn't that much farther/more costly for taxi/ground transfer
if your best deal or flight itinerary is JFK. It all depends on what
airline service is available to your home airport(s). Identifying the
most convenient air itinerary that is also a reasonable price to
embark in Amsterdam and return home from NYC will require some work
and creativity, and especially in view of the Labor Day factor, I'd
sure want to check all possibilities, as pricing will probably be
high. Get your TA to explore this for you and to also learn what cost
HAL is extending, as in these kinds of cases, cruise air is sometimes
the best economic deal (although you can't control your airline or
itinerary without paying a deviation fee).

Your hotel options are limited only by your budget, location
preferences and lodging needs/tastes/loyalty programs. The terminal's
at 12th and 55th, which is really convenient to the touristy areas
nearby, e.g., Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Time Square, etc. But
to maximize your one night in the city, you'll probably want to
consider choosing your hotel locale based on how/where you want to
spend that night. (You may also want to get your flight in place first
to be sure you don't need to stay in an airport hotel to catch a very
early flight.)

That's an extremely interesting itinerary! Hope it works out for you.

Good luck,

Diana Ball
Austin, TX

Reading your post again, I believe you would be better
off staying in Manhatten on Monday and traveling to JFK the next
day to catch your flight. If you stayed at the airport the traveling
back and forth to the city would eat up all your time.
Joe

"Joe C" wrote in message
...
There's a train(tram) that runs from the airport to the Long Island
Railroad.
There you can take the LIRR to Penn Station in Manhatten. From there you
can see almost anything. It should cost less than $10 per person each way.
You can get a transit pass in Manhatten for sightseeing, it might be good
for a couple of days, check it out. A cab ride could be a bit more but
a little more convenient.
Joe


"Barbara Brown" wrote in message
...
Thanks for all the information. We have our flights (we're using frequent
flyer miles). We leave out of JFK at 3:10 pm. on Tuesday the day after
labor day. So with the ship coming in on Monday morning, we have Monday
afternoon and Tuesday morning to see anything in NY. Not sure what yet,
we've both been there. If we stayed by JFK is there reasonable/safe
transportation into the city? I know it not like London.


On 1/17/2010 4:04 PM, D Ball wrote:
On Jan 17, 12:47 pm, Barbara wrote:
We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is
the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New
York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.

Hi, Barbara,

FYI, there are three cruise terminals in the New York area! Per HAL's
page with New York port information, the Eurodam will sail into
Manhattan Cruise Terminal on the Hudson:
http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise...tDetail.action

Newark and La Guardia are the closest airports, but as you can see
from the mileage and drive time estimates on the port information
page, JFK isn't that much farther/more costly for taxi/ground transfer
if your best deal or flight itinerary is JFK. It all depends on what
airline service is available to your home airport(s). Identifying the
most convenient air itinerary that is also a reasonable price to
embark in Amsterdam and return home from NYC will require some work
and creativity, and especially in view of the Labor Day factor, I'd
sure want to check all possibilities, as pricing will probably be
high. Get your TA to explore this for you and to also learn what cost
HAL is extending, as in these kinds of cases, cruise air is sometimes
the best economic deal (although you can't control your airline or
itinerary without paying a deviation fee).

Your hotel options are limited only by your budget, location
preferences and lodging needs/tastes/loyalty programs. The terminal's
at 12th and 55th, which is really convenient to the touristy areas
nearby, e.g., Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Time Square, etc. But
to maximize your one night in the city, you'll probably want to
consider choosing your hotel locale based on how/where you want to
spend that night. (You may also want to get your flight in place first
to be sure you don't need to stay in an airport hotel to catch a very
early flight.)

That's an extremely interesting itinerary! Hope it works out for you.

Good luck,

Diana Ball
Austin, TX

On Jan 19, 3:56*am, Brian K wrote:

If you can book any other time but Labor Day Weekend it would be the
wise choice.

All of your advice would be terrific if it weren't for the fact that
she's on a transatlantic that arrives
on Labor Day. It's not like she can change that parameter.

On Jan 19, 5:01*pm, "Joe C" wrote:
Reading your post again, I believe you would be better
off staying in Manhatten on Monday and traveling to JFK the next
day to catch your flight. If you stayed at the airport the traveling
back and forth to the city would eat up all your time.
Joe

I definitely agree with Joe--no matter how you go, it's really a good
hour between the city and JFK, and based on Brian's observation about
holiday traffic, I think you'd be a lot better off staying in the city
Monday night, then making your trek to the airport Tuesday.

You work fast, Barbara! Have fun putting all the pieces together.

Diana

On Jan 17, 4:04*pm, D Ball wrote:
On Jan 17, 12:47*pm, Barbara Brown wrote:

We're thinking of a transatlantic that returns to New York. Which is the
best airport to leave out of? Ship is Holland America Eurodam.

Since we're coming in on Labor Day, we might spend the night in New York
to get a better choice of flights where is it best to stay?

Thanks for any help.

Hi, Barbara,

FYI, there are three cruise terminals in the New York area! Per HAL's
page with New York port information, the Eurodam will sail into
Manhattan Cruise Terminal on the Hudson:http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise...tDetail.action

Newark and La Guardia are the closest airports, but as you can see
from the mileage and drive time estimates on the port information
page, JFK isn't that much farther/more costly for taxi/ground transfer
if your best deal or flight itinerary is JFK. It all depends on what
airline service is available to your home airport(s). Identifying the
most convenient air itinerary that is also a reasonable price to
embark in Amsterdam and return home from NYC will require some work
and creativity, and especially in view of the Labor Day factor, I'd
sure want to check all possibilities, as pricing will probably be
high. Get your TA to explore this for you and to also learn what cost
HAL is extending, as in these kinds of cases, cruise air is sometimes
the best economic deal (although you can't control your airline or
itinerary without paying a deviation fee).

Your hotel options are limited only by your budget, location
preferences and lodging needs/tastes/loyalty programs. The terminal's
at 12th and 55th, which is really convenient to the touristy areas
nearby, e.g., Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Time Square, etc. But
to maximize your one night in the city, you'll probably want to
consider choosing your hotel locale based on how/where you want to
spend that night. (You may also want to get your flight in place first
to be sure you don't need to stay in an airport hotel to catch a very
early flight.)

That's an extremely interesting itinerary! Hope it works out for you.

Good luck,

Diana Ball
Austin, TX

If leaving from the NY terminal on HAL, the most convenient airport
would be Newark Liberty (EWR). There's a train station in the
terminal and it's a convenient ride on NJ Transit to NYC - you'll then
be a short cab ride from the terminal. As for hotels, you could save
a few dollars by staying close to the airport and taking the train in
the morning. However, a good TA will be able to find nice
accommodations at a relatively affordable price in the city.

I've made this trip countless times (sans cruise) through both Newark
and LaGuardia. There's no question in my mind that Newark is a
closer and more convenient terminal.

Cheers,

Mark
St Louis, MO

Mark

"travelfanatic" wrote in message
...

If leaving from the NY terminal on HAL, the most convenient airport
would be Newark Liberty (EWR). There's a train station in the
terminal and it's a convenient ride on NJ Transit to NYC - you'll then
be a short cab ride from the terminal. As for hotels, you could save
a few dollars by staying close to the airport and taking the train in
the morning. However, a good TA will be able to find nice
accommodations at a relatively affordable price in the city.

I've made this trip countless times (sans cruise) through both Newark
and LaGuardia. There's no question in my mind that Newark is a
closer and more convenient terminal.

Cheers,

Mark
St Louis, MO



Agreed... but a few minor flaws in your Newark strategy. I found it VERY
VERY difficult finding a taxi at the cruise terminal after the cruise. I
had to walk across the highway with my luggage and flag one on the other
side of the highway. I can't say if it's gotten better or not... my guess,
it's good some times and horrible other times.... just depending on whether
a bunch of taxis show up there or not.

Then... getting your luggage down the stairs to the lobby level and then
down to the train platform level at Penn Station. That's always a hassle.

The airport at Newark off the train is the easy part.

--Tom