Why is every sign in Thailand wrong with regard to 12a.m and 12p.m.

I think you have what I said backwards. I said that America and Thailand are
OPPOSITES when it comes to using a.m. and p.m. at 12:00.


In article , "Per Löwdin"
wrote:

All I know is that in American, after 11:59 pm it is 12:00 AM, and after
11:59 am, it is 12:00 pm. That is the standard that everyone in America
uses. I didn't realize it was different in the European (or whatever
the
non-US countries the above responders are in).

Then, it is very likely the Thais have picked it up from the Americans, as
they have picked up a lot of other things: e.g., the love of pickup trucks
and American door handles. To me it seems somewhat illogical as the meridian
is at noon. Before noon, it is ante-meridian, i.e., AM after noon is
post-meridian i.e., PM, so to me it would be more logical to call midnight
12 PM as it is twelve hours past noon. Beyond, e.g., one minute past 12 PM,
becomes 0.01 AM. Etc.

Per
http://lowdin.nu

Miguel, your an American. So how about telling all these non-believers that
in America, the custom pretty much everywhere is to say that noon is 12pm and
midnight
is 12 a.m. (unless there are a few people or institutions that do not use
a.m. or p.m. at all). But no institution (i.e., library, bank, business,
etc etc. etc. .) would use 12am for noon and 12pm for midnight. (unless
of course there are immigrant communities from places like thailand that
wish to use the custom they are used to in the home country). I just
find it interesting that in thailand (and probably other countries that i'm
not familiar with) it's the opposite--I thought something like a.m./p.m.
would be copied from america.



(all institutions: banks, libraries, etc. etc. ) and businesses, and people

In article , (Miguel
Cruz) wrote:
Per Löwdin wrote:
Then, it is very likely the Thais have picked it up from the Americans, as
they have picked up a lot of other things: e.g., the love of pickup trucks
and American door handles. To me it seems somewhat illogical as the meridian
is at noon. Before noon, it is ante-meridian, i.e., AM after noon is
post-meridian i.e., PM, so to me it would be more logical to call midnight
12 PM as it is twelve hours past noon.

It's also twelve hours before noon.

The logical thing to do is to abandon the ridiculous 12-hour calendar.

miguel

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:58:11 GMT, "Per Löwdin"
wrote:


All I know is that in American, after 11:59 pm it is 12:00 AM, and after
11:59 am, it is 12:00 pm. That is the standard that everyone in America
uses. I didn't realize it was different in the European (or whatever
the
non-US countries the above responders are in).

Then, it is very likely the Thais have picked it up from the Americans, as
they have picked up a lot of other things: e.g., the love of pickup trucks
and American door handles. To me it seems somewhat illogical as the meridian
is at noon. Before noon, it is ante-meridian, i.e., AM after noon is
post-meridian i.e., PM, so to me it would be more logical to call midnight
12 PM as it is twelve hours past noon. Beyond, e.g., one minute past 12 PM,
becomes 0.01 AM. Etc.

To me, the logical way would be the opposite of that. After 11:59pm
comes midnight, then 12:01am, 12:02am etc. It would be better to refer
to midnight as 12:00am so as to be consistent with the way you refer
to the other times in the hour that follows midnight.

11:58pm, 11:59pm, 12:00pm, 12:01am, 12:02am doesn't look right.

I do agree its better still to call the times 'noon' and 'midnight' to
avoid confusion.

Chris Blunt wrote:

I do agree its better still to call the times 'noon' and 'midnight' to
avoid confusion.

And why not the even better, ultimately simpler, 1200 (12:00, 12.00) and
2400 (24:00, 24.00) ? That gives you

1158, 1159, 1200, 1201, 1202 and
2358, 2359, 2400, 0001, 0002

with no ambiguity and no chance of confusion.

In other words, why not FORGET this 'A.M.' and P.M.' nonsense
altogether!

It's too bad 'Swatch' time never caught on. :-)

cheers,

Henry

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:32:32 +0200, (Henry) wrote:

Chris Blunt wrote:

I do agree its better still to call the times 'noon' and 'midnight' to
avoid confusion.

And why not the even better, ultimately simpler, 1200 (12:00, 12.00) and
2400 (24:00, 24.00) ? That gives you

1158, 1159, 1200, 1201, 1202 and
2358, 2359, 2400, 0001, 0002

with no ambiguity and no chance of confusion.

In other words, why not FORGET this 'A.M.' and P.M.' nonsense
altogether!

Good idea, but saying "its zero forty-five" or "its oh forty-five"
sounds so strange compared to saying "its twelve forty-five".

Chris Blunt wrote in
:


Good idea, but saying "its zero forty-five" or "its oh forty-five"
sounds so strange compared to saying "its twelve forty-five".

Only for a short while. Almost everyone in Europe can handle that.

/Tommy P.