The Lowdown of High Density Living in Hong Kong - East Asian tourist attraction?

ltlee1 wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:
RAK Goes Cool....

Forget about the glitzy part of town when travelling to Hong Kong. I
recommend these Hong Kong high density apartments as your next tourist
attraction when you visit Hong Kong! It's too bad that they're not for
rent, well, they are apparently to local low income people, but not to
foreigners who like to spend a one or two nighter where you can live
and taste the life of locals (no sexual innuendo there, oh yeah, for
sure!). It's like double-intensity NYC!

The question remains, how can people *live* in tiny apartments like
these?

Where does the "how" come from?

Have you ever seen homeless people? People can survive homeless.
Of course they can live in a small home. A small home is better than
no home.

Have you guys ever walked across a freeway overpass? If you have, you
would see a lot of people living under the freeway, a lot of women
living in this condition under freeway overpasses. And this is in
America, in California!!! the richest nation on earth.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/1.stm

"The 30 sq m one-bedroom apartment the government offered was a welcome
improvement for the family of six"
"He moved here in 1978 from an estate where six were confined to a
space of 100 sq ft."
--------

This is like human rights abuse!

And it's almost sad to see some of these people living there. Many are
probably decent people. 10-year-old kids just dash home in uniform
after school to dutifully do their homework! And there is no doubt that
these low-income places are much much much safer than any inner city in
the US!! You won't be shot. But you should arm yourself verbally, just
in case, and the recommended gear is:

http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/cantonese.htm

Any disappointments? Yes. Some are drab, and many are too generic and
lack that signature touch. They all look the same so if you visit one
you've probably seen them all.

Also the locals probably will not let you into their apartments. Having
been to one of these complexes and gone up the stairs into the
corridors with friends (straying way off the itinerary, of course,
after going up the Bank of China building
http://www.molon.de/galleries/China/...building .jpg
) a couple years back, these places are still recommended.

Two other things: tourists, like dogs, always 'leave their mark' -
that's why sometimes busloads of tourists in North America or elsewhere
just hop from washroom to washroom when travelling by coach. So visit
and use the washrooms. And one should try out the food also - local
flavor, be prepared for it to be fatty, oily, and dirty, but if the
locals don't get sick from it, I don't think you will.

By the way, what are these small apartments called locally? "Estates"!
Credit to Hong Kong people: they do have a sense of humor.

RichAsianKid wrote:

It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

(1) I don't see any "six people sharing one apartment".

(2) I don't see any unhappy face.

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RichAsianKid wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:
RAK Goes Cool....

Forget about the glitzy part of town when travelling to Hong Kong. I
recommend these Hong Kong high density apartments as your next tourist
attraction when you visit Hong Kong! It's too bad that they're not for
rent, well, they are apparently to local low income people, but not to
foreigners who like to spend a one or two nighter where you can live
and taste the life of locals (no sexual innuendo there, oh yeah, for
sure!). It's like double-intensity NYC!

The question remains, how can people *live* in tiny apartments like
these?

Where does the "how" come from?

Have you ever seen homeless people? People can survive homeless.
Of course they can live in a small home. A small home is better than
no home.


It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

All those photos must have taken from the same "estate". I have seen
other "estates" that have much bigger room, better atmosphere.

Tak To wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:

It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

(1) I don't see any "six people sharing one apartment".


Go back to original link of this thread

(2) I don't see any unhappy face.


They're posing for the photo!

Tak
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ltlee1 wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:
RAK Goes Cool....

Forget about the glitzy part of town when travelling to Hong Kong. I
recommend these Hong Kong high density apartments as your next tourist
attraction when you visit Hong Kong! It's too bad that they're not for
rent, well, they are apparently to local low income people, but not to
foreigners who like to spend a one or two nighter where you can live
and taste the life of locals (no sexual innuendo there, oh yeah, for
sure!). It's like double-intensity NYC!

The question remains, how can people *live* in tiny apartments like
these?

Where does the "how" come from?

Have you ever seen homeless people? People can survive homeless.
Of course they can live in a small home. A small home is better than
no home.


It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

In comparison with the big sky of Montana and the endless plain in
American midwest, or the Mongolian grassland, metropolitans such as New
York, Tokyo, Shanghai, Hong Kong etc are all metaphorical prisons of
made of concrete forest.

Of course, metaphorical prisons are not real prisons.
The most concret prison is ones own mind. If one cannot live without a
[BMW or whatever], then he is making a prison for himself.

But BMWs set you free......sometimes even from the laws of physics

And metaphorically, there is truth in this quip - crime is freedom, and
freedom is crime. Really, think about it. Since those 'public estates'
are still low crime area.....well....the inference is clear....and with
all the 10 year old kids wearing blazers and trousers, wearing uniform
carrying their 10 pound 'schoolbag', doing the same thing day in day
out, all riding the same bus at exactly the same time of day; with all
those identical drab slabs of steel and concrete, the entire housing
complex is just one huge symbol of the inertia of Chinese ethos and
deafening conformity!!

wrote:
ltlee1 wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:
RAK Goes Cool....

Forget about the glitzy part of town when travelling to Hong Kong. I
recommend these Hong Kong high density apartments as your next tourist
attraction when you visit Hong Kong! It's too bad that they're not for
rent, well, they are apparently to local low income people, but not to
foreigners who like to spend a one or two nighter where you can live
and taste the life of locals (no sexual innuendo there, oh yeah, for
sure!). It's like double-intensity NYC!

The question remains, how can people *live* in tiny apartments like
these?

Where does the "how" come from?

Have you ever seen homeless people? People can survive homeless.
Of course they can live in a small home. A small home is better than
no home.

Have you guys ever walked across a freeway overpass? If you have, you
would see a lot of people living under the freeway, a lot of women
living in this condition under freeway overpasses. And this is in
America, in California!!! the richest nation on earth.


Didn't you also spot the sign that says, "would the last American to
leave California please take down the flag?"


--------
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/1.stm

"The 30 sq m one-bedroom apartment the government offered was a welcome
improvement for the family of six"
"He moved here in 1978 from an estate where six were confined to a
space of 100 sq ft."
--------

This is like human rights abuse!

And it's almost sad to see some of these people living there. Many are
probably decent people. 10-year-old kids just dash home in uniform
after school to dutifully do their homework! And there is no doubt that
these low-income places are much much much safer than any inner city in
the US!! You won't be shot. But you should arm yourself verbally, just
in case, and the recommended gear is:

http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/cantonese.htm

Any disappointments? Yes. Some are drab, and many are too generic and
lack that signature touch. They all look the same so if you visit one
you've probably seen them all.

Also the locals probably will not let you into their apartments. Having
been to one of these complexes and gone up the stairs into the
corridors with friends (straying way off the itinerary, of course,
after going up the Bank of China building
http://www.molon.de/galleries/China/...building .jpg
) a couple years back, these places are still recommended.

Two other things: tourists, like dogs, always 'leave their mark' -
that's why sometimes busloads of tourists in North America or elsewhere
just hop from washroom to washroom when travelling by coach. So visit
and use the washrooms. And one should try out the food also - local
flavor, be prepared for it to be fatty, oily, and dirty, but if the
locals don't get sick from it, I don't think you will.

By the way, what are these small apartments called locally? "Estates"!
Credit to Hong Kong people: they do have a sense of humor.

RichAsianKid wrote:

Tak To wrote:

RichAsianKid wrote:
It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

(1) I don't see any "six people sharing one apartment".

Go back to original link of this thread

Can you read? It said someone "moved here in 1978 from
an estate where six were confined to a space of 100 sq ft".
That was 1978. Those cramped estates have been gone for
decades.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/6.stm

(2) I don't see any unhappy face.

They're posing for the photo!

Why would they do that if they were unhappy? You think BBC bribed
them to put on a smily face?

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Tak To wrote:
RichAsianKid wrote:

Tak To wrote:

RichAsianKid wrote:
It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

(1) I don't see any "six people sharing one apartment".

Go back to original link of this thread

Can you read? It said someone "moved here in 1978 from
an estate where six were confined to a space of 100 sq ft".
That was 1978. Those cramped estates have been gone for
decades.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/6.stm


What about this:
"The 30 sq m one-bedroom apartment the government offered was a welcome
improvement for the family of six."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/2.stm

(2) I don't see any unhappy face.

They're posing for the photo!

Why would they do that if they were unhappy? You think BBC bribed
them to put on a smily face?


"Face" - what a pun huh! - hey you answered your own question!!!

Tak
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RichAsianKid wrote:
What about this:
"The 30 sq m one-bedroom apartment the government offered was a welcome
improvement for the family of six."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/2.stm

Did the article say that there are still 6 people living in
that apartment? And if you turn to a couple of pages later,
you will see that his neighbor Mr Hong's family of six now
consist of only him and his wife.

(2) I don't see any unhappy face.

They're posing for the photo!

Why would they do that if they were unhappy? You think BBC bribed
them to put on a smily face?

"Face" - what a pun huh! - hey you answered your own question!!!

That's probably the greatest insult you can give to the people
you claimed to have great sympathy for.

Tak
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RichAsianKid wrote:
Tak To wrote:

RichAsianKid wrote:

Tak To wrote:

RichAsianKid wrote:

It's a prison!
http://www.freephotosandvideos.com/p...ts/tourism.htm

(1) I don't see any "six people sharing one apartment".

Go back to original link of this thread

Can you read? It said someone "moved here in 1978 from
an estate where six were confined to a space of 100 sq ft".
That was 1978. Those cramped estates have been gone for
decades.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/6.stm

What about this:
"The 30 sq m one-bedroom apartment the government offered was a welcome
improvement for the family of six."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...ong/html/2.stm

Did the article say that there are still 6 people living in
that apartment? And if you turn to a couple of pages later,
you will see that his neighbor Mr Hong's family of six now
consist of only him and his wife.

(2) I don't see any unhappy face.

They're posing for the photo!

Why would they do that if they were unhappy? You think BBC bribed
them to put on a smily face?

"Face" - what a pun huh! - hey you answered your own question!!!

That's probably the greatest insult you can give to the people
you claimed to have great sympathy for.

Tak
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