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Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........
On 2013-01-06 12:53:32 -0600, Poetic Justice said:
Dan*Stephenson wrote; I like the cool overcastness of the British Isles.Which is a problem for me since I am also a fan of ancient Greek ruins, and Greece is the antithesis of the British Isles. Try Delphi in January. I arrived mid-week the afternoon before so the next day I was at the site when it 1st opened. The 1st at least 2 hours I was completely alone in the site, it was cold and drizzling and the clouds were rolling thru the site's ruins in wisps like this http://tinyurl.com/aklavov The custodians were all in their little 1 man shacks completely out of sight and hearing, the fog/clouds and the drizzle dampened any outside noise, I could only hear my footsteps. It was very surreal which greatly enhanced my visit to this mystical site. I would not exchange that cold drizzling morning silently alone in the clouds amongst the ruins with the most beautiful warm sunny day Delphi ever had:-). Regards, Walter I think I would agree, that Winter in Greece sounds very appealing. Temperature is right, crowds such as they are, are minimized, and if overcast -- great! Thanks for the feedback. When I visited Delphi in 2002 I too was fortunate to have it overcast, though through luck rather than being seasonal. A raincloud was moving up the valley side. For a moment, as the rainclose rose, my feet had rain and my head did not. Very surreal. http://www.stepheda.com/Grand_Tour_2...Photos.html#13 Delphi was one of the special places in Greece, for me. What were your other favorate places in Greece? I am going to revisit one day. -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.......
Dan*Stephenson wrote;
I think I would agree, that Winter in Greece sounds very appealing. Temperature is right,... It was alot colder than I like that January and I'm a cold weather person. ...crowds such as they are, are minimized, and if overcast -- great! In my 3* hotel in Delphi the 1st night it was a couple and myself, the 2nd night only me. And it snowed the day I left. I also had Olympia, Mycenae and Tyrns pretty much to myself in the morning at opening. What were your other favorate places in Greece? I lived outside of Athens (the last town before Marathon) for 2 yrs in the early 70's when I was 19. So the Acropolis and other ruins were part of the city you eventually don't even look at when passing-by. I've gone back twice (99 & 00) older and wiser and did Athens and the Peloponese and a few other sites. My favorite and it's mentioned in this thread http://tinyurl.com/9wusrg5 which we both took part in. Is when Socrates' Prison in the Agora was off the beaten track, unmarked, open and not visited. And then standing in that exact location and playing out his final scene in my mind. I'm very much more into Rome's history and putting a human interest story at a site or location makes it come alive for me. Regards, Walter |
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Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........
Dan Stephenson wrote on Jan 6, 2013:
On 2013-01-06 12:53:32 -0600, Poetic Justice said: Dan*Stephenson wrote; I like the cool overcastness of the British Isles.Which is a problem for me since I am also a fan of ancient Greek ruins, and Greece is the antithesis of the British Isles. Try Delphi in January. I arrived mid-week the afternoon before so the next day I was at the site when it 1st opened. The 1st at least 2 hours I was completely alone in the site, it was cold and drizzling and the clouds were rolling thru the site's ruins in wisps like this http://tinyurl.com/aklavov The custodians were all in their little 1 man shacks completely out of sight and hearing, the fog/clouds and the drizzle dampened any outside noise, I could only hear my footsteps. It was very surreal which greatly enhanced my visit to this mystical site. I would not exchange that cold drizzling morning silently alone in the clouds amongst the ruins with the most beautiful warm sunny day Delphi ever had:-). Regards, Walter I think I would agree, that Winter in Greece sounds very appealing. Temperature is right, crowds such as they are, are minimized, and if overcast -- great! Thanks for the feedback. When I visited Delphi in 2002 I too was fortunate to have it overcast, though through luck rather than being seasonal. A raincloud was moving up the valley side. For a moment, as the rainclose rose, my feet had rain and my head did not. Very surreal. http://www.stepheda.com/Grand_Tour_2...Photos.html#13 Delphi was one of the special places in Greece, for me. What were your other favorate places in Greece? I am going to revisit one day. The Sanctuary of the Great Gods on Samothraki is one of my favourites. Partly due to its remoteness it seemed a somewhat magical place to me, with Mount Fengari looming nearby. I spent a week on Samothraki in 2008. I'd really like to return someday. -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire mike_lane at mac dot com |
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poldy wrote;
Remember the long threads about smoking bans in restaurants and pubs? Yes, I pulled this snippet up from 2007 were I mention how just asking about the smoke in restaurants and pubs esp by Americans in the late-90's would bring on the attacks:-). (David*Horne,*_the_*chancellor*(*)) wrote: Also, does anyone remember Sjoerd's post here a few years ago when the subject sort of came up? "Yes, we know that second hand smoke is a bit bad for your health. However, Europeans value freedom and we don't like to be told what we can and can not do. A little bit of second hand smoke will kill nobody. Live and let live. " Yes, I remember his smoking freedom posts. I recall one thread here when NYC banned smoking in bars. Sjoerd's response was a classic and I wish I could recall it exactly but basically the US was fascist or nazi for passing these types of laws, freedom, rights, etc. But there were many posts esp in the late 90's where esp Americans (usually 1st timers) were slammed here just for asking about smoking in Europe questions (restaurants, bars, public transport, hotels, etc). Answers like "stay home", "it's part of our culture", "we are free", "it's our right", "a little smoke won't hurt you, get over it", "Europe isn't the USA", etc. |
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Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........
"M@gd@" wrote in message ... On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:43:48 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, Dan Stephenson arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: ... ... I think I would agree, that Winter in Greece sounds very appealing. ... Temperature is right, crowds such as they are, are minimized, and if ... overcast -- great! Thanks for the feedback. I was there end of November three years ago. 20C and sunny almost every day (it rained a little just once in ten days), very few tourists, the Greeks relaxed and nice... The only negative point, if you like to take pictures, is that the light does not last long: at 16h30 I was already packing my phot gear, no use insisting. It not just that it doesn't last long, the sun is always low in the sky, so getting decent pictures even when it is light, can be impossible tim |
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Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........
"M@gd@" wrote in message ... On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 11:23:42 -0000, in rec.travel.europe, "tim....." arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: ... ... "M@gd@" wrote in message ... ... ... On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:43:48 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, Dan Stephenson ... arranged some electrons, so they looked like ... this: ... ... ... ... ... ... I think I would agree, that Winter in Greece sounds very appealing. ... ... Temperature is right, crowds such as they are, are minimized, and if ... ... overcast -- great! Thanks for the feedback. ... ... I was there end of November three years ago. 20C and sunny almost every ... day (it rained a ... little just once in ten days), very few tourists, the Greeks relaxed and ... nice... The only ... negative point, if you like to take pictures, is that the light does not ... last long: at ... 16h30 I was already packing my phot gear, no use insisting. ... ... It not just that it doesn't last long, the sun is always low in the sky, so ... getting decent pictures even when it is light, can be impossible ... ... tim I took great pictures at the time - but it was between 10 and 15h. I'm not saying that it's always impossible, but it sometimes will be depending upon whether you have access to the North/South/East or West of the item you are photographing. (ICBA to work out what direction is crap) tim ===== It sounds much better in French, but then, everything does. |
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Delphi, Greece Top Three Travel Experiences? Ummm.........
Martin wrote on Jan 8, 2013:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:03:37 +0100, "M@gd@" wrote: On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:24:10 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: ... On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:13:47 +0100, "M@gd@" wrote: ... ... On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 16:43:48 -0600, in rec.travel.europe, Dan Stephenson ... arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: ... ... ... ... ... ... I think I would agree, that Winter in Greece sounds very appealing. ... ... Temperature is right, crowds such as they are, are minimized, and if ... ... overcast -- great! Thanks for the feedback. ... ... I was there end of November three years ago. 20C and sunny almost every day (it rained a ... little just once in ten days), very few tourists, the Greeks relaxed and nice... The only ... negative point, if you like to take pictures, is that the light does not last long: at ... 16h30 I was already packing my photo gear, no use insisting. Apart from that, it was just ... perfect. ... ... I'll try February-March next time. ... ... We've been to Greece in mid-May several times. Plenty of light and it ... was never too hot to visit ancient sites. Lucky you. I got 35C in Samothraki in May. With global warming maybe April would be better. :-) Last time we were in Greece in August, in 1997, we visited Olympia without it being too hot although on the road from the coast a whole hill side was burning. The problem I've found with going to Greece too early in the year is that once you leave the tourist resorts and large hotels, things are often just not open. One does, when all is said and done, need places to eat and sleep! I remember one year spending a few days in Limni, a delightful small seaside town on the north-west coast of Evia. It was the end of May and I think we were the only foreigners in the town. We found one taverna open which also did rooms which was where we stayed, but that was all. By the time we left a few more places had just begun to open. -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire mike_lane at mac dot com |
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That's sad. I used to really enjoy RTE until I got too busy at work. Now
that I have some time I thought I'd jump back in but given the depth of the sh*t, I don't know that they make wellies that high. "Poetic Justice" wrote in message ... poldy wrote; Remember the long threads about smoking bans in restaurants and pubs? Yes, I pulled this snippet up from 2007 were I mention how just asking about the smoke in restaurants and pubs esp by Americans in the late-90's would bring on the attacks:-). (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Also, does anyone remember Sjoerd's post here a few years ago when the subject sort of came up? "Yes, we know that second hand smoke is a bit bad for your health. However, Europeans value freedom and we don't like to be told what we can and can not do. A little bit of second hand smoke will kill nobody. Live and let live. " Yes, I remember his smoking freedom posts. I recall one thread here when NYC banned smoking in bars. Sjoerd's response was a classic and I wish I could recall it exactly but basically the US was fascist or nazi for passing these types of laws, freedom, rights, etc. But there were many posts esp in the late 90's where esp Americans (usually 1st timers) were slammed here just for asking about smoking in Europe questions (restaurants, bars, public transport, hotels, etc). Answers like "stay home", "it's part of our culture", "we are free", "it's our right", "a little smoke won't hurt you, get over it", "Europe isn't the USA", etc. |
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