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Old February 23rd, 2007, 03:07 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.travel,rec.travel.misc,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa
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Question: Do you need French for travel in Africa ?



Marc Lurie wrote:


.....I'm commenting only insofar as
African travel is concerned. African travel can be made MUCH l
ess difficult if you speak certain languages.

French is spoken in Algeria, Morocco, Mauretania, Cameroon,
Mali, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Benin, Niger, Chad, Rwanda,
Burundi, CAR, Gabon, [Togo], both Congos, [Burkina Faso,
formerly Upper Volta], etc.


Portuguese is spoken in Angola and Mozambique, and
kiSwahili is spoken all over East Africa.


If you're in NW Tanzania then English is USELESS, and
if you don't speak kiSwahili you will battle to get around.
Try NOT speaking French in central Africa and see how
far you get, or try to get around central Angola without
Portuguese if you really want a challenge.


I have to strongly disagree with Lynn Guini who asserts
"French is all but useless for travel". Lynn, not everybody
travels for the same reason as you do. Some people travel
for pleasure, some for business, some for adventure,
some emigrate etc. I travel to the DRC for business, and
speaking a bit of French is incredibly useful. She also says
that "Spanish is far more useful". Apart from being similar to
Portuguese, AFAIK Spanish is spoken only in
Equatorial Guinea.


Lynn, you sound like a person who likes to "tick off" countries
countries like a bird-watcher "twitches" new species. Nothing
at all wrong with that, but you must realise that not all
travellers are doing the same. Not all travellers are tourists
who stay at hotels where the staff speak some English


Marc


[ Marc : Johannesburg, South Africa (where French IS useless,
except for showing off to your friends in swanky restaurants,
and where English is USELESS in parts of Zululand and
Eastern Cape.]


======================


Conquering FRENCH in 10 months ? ..How I did it !


An AMAZING story...a methodology that could work for anyone.


Read at:


http://tinylink.com/?IbZUMIf2sn


Or,


http://minilien.com/?9bHKc6BSC4


.........................


Bonne chance...bon courage !!


=============================


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_languages


L a n g u a g e s


o f


A f r i c a


There are an estimated 1800 languages spoken in Africa. Some African
languages, such as Swahili, Hausa, and Yoruba, are spoken by millions
of people. Others, such as Laal, Shabo, and Dahalo, are spoken by a
few hundred or fewer. In addition, Africa has a wide variety of sign
languages, many of whose genetic classification has yet to be worked
out. Several African languages are also whistled for special
purposes.


The abundant linguistic diversity of many African countries has made
language policy an extremely important issue in the neo-colonial era.
In recent years, African countries have become increasingly aware of
the value of their linguistic inheritance. Language policies that are
being developed nowadays are mostly aimed at multilingualism. For
example, all African languages are considered official languages of
the African Union (AU). 2006 has been declared by AU as the "Year of
African Languages".


http://africanlanguages.com/


It is estimated that there are between 2000 and 3000 languages spoken
on the African continent, with possibly as many as 8000 dialects.
African languages are divided into four major language families, as
well as Austronesian. (continued at link)

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Old February 23rd, 2007, 07:38 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.travel,rec.travel.misc,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa
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Question: Do you need French for travel in Africa ?



Marc Lurie wrote:


.....I'm commenting only insofar as
African travel is concerned. African travel can be made MUCH l
ess difficult if you speak certain languages.

French is spoken in Algeria, Morocco, Mauretania, Cameroon,
Mali, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Benin, Niger, Chad, Rwanda,
Burundi, CAR, Gabon, [Togo], both Congos, [Burkina Faso,
formerly Upper Volta], etc.


Portuguese is spoken in Angola and Mozambique, and
kiSwahili is spoken all over East Africa.


If you're in NW Tanzania then English is USELESS, and
if you don't speak kiSwahili you will battle to get around.
Try NOT speaking French in central Africa and see how
far you get, or try to get around central Angola without
Portuguese if you really want a challenge.


I have to strongly disagree with Lynn Guini who asserts
"French is all but useless for travel". Lynn, not everybody
travels for the same reason as you do. Some people travel
for pleasure, some for business, some for adventure,
some emigrate etc. I travel to the DRC for business, and
speaking a bit of French is incredibly useful. She also says
that "Spanish is far more useful". Apart from being similar to
Portuguese, AFAIK Spanish is spoken only in
Equatorial Guinea.


Lynn, you sound like a person who likes to "tick off" countries
countries like a bird-watcher "twitches" new species. Nothing
at all wrong with that, but you must realise that not all
travellers are doing the same. Not all travellers are tourists
who stay at hotels where the staff speak some English


Marc


[ Marc : Johannesburg, South Africa (where French IS useless,
except for showing off to your friends in swanky restaurants,
and where English is USELESS in parts of Zululand and
Eastern Cape.]


======================


Conquering FRENCH in 10 months ? ..How I did it !


An AMAZING story...a methodology that could work for anyone.


Read at:


http://tinylink.com/?IbZUMIf2sn


Or,


http://minilien.com/?9bHKc6BSC4


.........................


Bonne chance...bon courage !!


=============================


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_languages


L a n g u a g e s


o f


A f r i c a


There are an estimated 1800 languages spoken in Africa. Some African
languages, such as Swahili, Hausa, and Yoruba, are spoken by millions
of people. Others, such as Laal, Shabo, and Dahalo, are spoken by a
few hundred or fewer. In addition, Africa has a wide variety of sign
languages, many of whose genetic classification has yet to be worked
out. Several African languages are also whistled for special
purposes.


The abundant linguistic diversity of many African countries has made
language policy an extremely important issue in the neo-colonial era.
In recent years, African countries have become increasingly aware of
the value of their linguistic inheritance. Language policies that are
being developed nowadays are mostly aimed at multilingualism. For
example, all African languages are considered official languages of
the African Union (AU). 2006 has been declared by AU as the "Year of
African Languages".


http://africanlanguages.com/


It is estimated that there are between 2000 and 3000 languages spoken
on the African continent, with possibly as many as 8000 dialects.
African languages are divided into four major language families, as
well as Austronesian. (continued at link)


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Old February 23rd, 2007, 09:29 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.travel,rec.travel.misc,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa
Lawrence Akutagawa
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Default ...Need French for travel ?

Another of the geographically challenged who does not know his Africa from
his Canada-USA. Wonder where he obtained his geography education.

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Rejoignez-nous! Come Join Us!


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ET D'AMITIE POUR L'APPRENTISSAGE
ET LA PRATIQUE DES LANGUES


Members 800-plus / Membres plus de 800


EXPERIMENTAL MUTUAL-AID BILINGUAL FRIENDSHIP
FORUM FOR LANGUAGE LEARNING & PRACTICE


/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/


S'inscrire sur - Join he


http://minilien.com/?ZiQxcLUGmN


After joining, please send your own brief intro statement to
the group (name, job, studies, interests, ambitions)...as you wish.


Après vous être inscrit, envoyez au groupe quelques mots sur
vous (nom, boulot, études, passe-temps, ambitions)...comme vous
voulez.


/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/


Communiquons par tous les moyens !


Let's communicate by all possible ways & means !


MESSAGERIE INSTANTANEE ~ INSTANT MESSENGER


Yahoo, MSN, SKYPE, Google Talk, AIM, WebCam, Telephonie, etc.


Invite fellow group members to talk LIVE
Invitez d'autres membres à discuter EN DIRECT


Introductions Présentations


Vous trouverez les présentations que d'autres membres du
forum ont envoyées à d'autres membres sur:


Read the introductory statements of other group members at:


http://minilien.com/?9VfkmdQ90q


More info / Plus d'infos:


http://minilien.com/?KhQ6gIGVPC


Bienvenue !


Welcome !


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Question: Do you need French for travel in Africa ?



Marc Lurie wrote:


.....I'm commenting only insofar as
African travel is concerned. African travel can be made MUCH l
ess difficult if you speak certain languages.

French is spoken in Algeria, Morocco, Mauretania, Cameroon,
Mali, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Benin, Niger, Chad, Rwanda,
Burundi, CAR, Gabon, [Togo], both Congos, [Burkina Faso,
formerly Upper Volta], etc.


Portuguese is spoken in Angola and Mozambique, and
kiSwahili is spoken all over East Africa.


If you're in NW Tanzania then English is USELESS, and
if you don't speak kiSwahili you will battle to get around.
Try NOT speaking French in central Africa and see how
far you get, or try to get around central Angola without
Portuguese if you really want a challenge.


I have to strongly disagree with Lynn Guini who asserts
"French is all but useless for travel". Lynn, not everybody
travels for the same reason as you do. Some people travel
for pleasure, some for business, some for adventure,
some emigrate etc. I travel to the DRC for business, and
speaking a bit of French is incredibly useful. She also says
that "Spanish is far more useful". Apart from being similar to
Portuguese, AFAIK Spanish is spoken only in
Equatorial Guinea.


Lynn, you sound like a person who likes to "tick off" countries
countries like a bird-watcher "twitches" new species. Nothing
at all wrong with that, but you must realise that not all
travellers are doing the same. Not all travellers are tourists
who stay at hotels where the staff speak some English


Marc


[ Marc : Johannesburg, South Africa (where French IS useless,
except for showing off to your friends in swanky restaurants,
and where English is USELESS in parts of Zululand and
Eastern Cape.]


======================


Conquering FRENCH in 10 months ? ..How I did it !


An AMAZING story...a methodology that could work for anyone.


Read at:


http://tinylink.com/?IbZUMIf2sn


Or,


http://minilien.com/?9bHKc6BSC4


.........................


Bonne chance...bon courage !!


=============================


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_languages


L a n g u a g e s


o f


A f r i c a


There are an estimated 1800 languages spoken in Africa. Some African
languages, such as Swahili, Hausa, and Yoruba, are spoken by millions
of people. Others, such as Laal, Shabo, and Dahalo, are spoken by a
few hundred or fewer. In addition, Africa has a wide variety of sign
languages, many of whose genetic classification has yet to be worked
out. Several African languages are also whistled for special
purposes.


The abundant linguistic diversity of many African countries has made
language policy an extremely important issue in the neo-colonial era.
In recent years, African countries have become increasingly aware of
the value of their linguistic inheritance. Language policies that are
being developed nowadays are mostly aimed at multilingualism. For
example, all African languages are considered official languages of
the African Union (AU). 2006 has been declared by AU as the "Year of
African Languages".


http://africanlanguages.com/


It is estimated that there are between 2000 and 3000 languages spoken
on the African continent, with possibly as many as 8000 dialects.
African languages are divided into four major language families, as
well as Austronesian. (continued at link)


 




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