Film Cameras in Checked Luggage

James Robinson wrote:
"Larry in Berkeley" wrote:

If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that now
all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not carried on
board.

You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the USA. The
only place in the world that restricts you are flights originating in the
UK.

I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture of
(*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of babyfood in
passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked, Denver was not in the
UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have TSA staff.).

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Frank Slootweg wrote:

James Robinson wrote:
"Larry in Berkeley" wrote:

If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that
now all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not
carried on board.

You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the USA.
The only place in the world that restricts you are flights
originating in the UK.

I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture of
(*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of babyfood in
passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked, Denver was not in
the UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have TSA staff.).

Baby food is not a camera, which was the subject at hand.

Up to yesterday, all liquids and pastes were prohibited in carry-on bags.
Today, some items are now permitted, including baby food.

James Robinson wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:

James Robinson wrote:
"Larry in Berkeley" wrote:

If you are travelling by air with a film camera, don't forget that
now all airlines require cameras to be in checked luggage, not
carried on board.

You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the USA.
The only place in the world that restricts you are flights
originating in the UK.

I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture of
(*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of babyfood in
passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked, Denver was not in
the UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have TSA staff.).

Baby food is not a camera, which was the subject at hand.

I realize(d) that. My point is that it was at least implied that only
flight originating in the UK had/have restrictions. That's clearly not
the case. Also I don't see why a camera would be treated differently
than the other electronic items which *were/are* banned. So I think it's
safe to assume that, at least for some time, cameras were banned also on
flights which did not originate in the UK.

Up to yesterday, all liquids and pastes were prohibited in carry-on bags.
Today, some items are now permitted, including baby food.

Frank Slootweg wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the
USA. The only place in the world that restricts you are flights
originating in the UK.

I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture
of (*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of
babyfood in passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked,
Denver was not in the UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have
TSA staff.).

Baby food is not a camera, which was the subject at hand.

I realize(d) that. My point is that it was at least implied that
only flight originating in the UK had/have restrictions. That's
clearly not the case. Also I don't see why a camera would be treated
differently than the other electronic items which *were/are* banned.
So I think it's safe to assume that, at least for some time, cameras
were banned also on flights which did not originate in the UK.

Electronic items were not banned in carry-on bags in the US, nor are they
now banned. The only restrictions were on liquids/gels/pastes. You
could carry your cell phone, laptop, PDA, camera, etc. aboard in your
carry-on bags.

The UK was the most restrictive, in that pretty well every carry-on item
was banned, up to today. That included electronic items, liquids, and
cameras, among many other things. Today, they are allowing one small
carry-on, which can contain such things as a laptop, camera, or film, but
still no liquids. They still prohibit carrying on a cell phone. Phones
have to be in checked baggage.

James Robinson wrote:

The UK was the most restrictive, in that pretty well every carry-on item
was banned, up to today. That included electronic items, liquids, and
cameras, among many other things. Today, they are allowing one small
carry-on, which can contain such things as a laptop, camera, or film, but
still no liquids. They still prohibit carrying on a cell phone. Phones
have to be in checked baggage.

Mine wasn't today (from LCY), I carried it on. Nice there's a bit of
consistency.

Neil

Neil Williams wrote:
James Robinson wrote:

The UK was the most restrictive, in that pretty well every carry-on item
was banned, up to today. That included electronic items, liquids, and
cameras, among many other things. Today, they are allowing one small
carry-on, which can contain such things as a laptop, camera, or film, but
still no liquids. They still prohibit carrying on a cell phone. Phones
have to be in checked baggage.

Mine wasn't today (from LCY), I carried it on. Nice there's a bit of
consistency.

Neil

BBC report at lunchtime today said mobile phones *were* now allowed,
along with laptops and other electronic equipment. All such equipment
was likely to be separately scanned.

--
Wilf

Wilf wrote:

Neil Williams wrote:
James Robinson wrote:

The UK was the most restrictive, in that pretty well every carry-on
item was banned, up to today. That included electronic items,
liquids, and cameras, among many other things. Today, they are
allowing one small carry-on, which can contain such things as a
laptop, camera, or film, but still no liquids. They still prohibit
carrying on a cell phone. Phones have to be in checked baggage.

Mine wasn't today (from LCY), I carried it on. Nice there's a bit of
consistency.

Neil

BBC report at lunchtime today said mobile phones *were* now allowed,
along with laptops and other electronic equipment. All such equipment
was likely to be separately scanned.

Obviously, things have not yet settled down. The BAA web site for Heathrow
still says that mobile phones have to be checked, and cannot be carried
aboard. The web site for LCY just says that mobile phones have to be
removed from your carry-on bag, and be scanned separately.

James Robinson wrote:

Wilf wrote:

Neil Williams wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

The UK was the most restrictive, in that pretty well every carry-on
item was banned, up to today. That included electronic items,
liquids, and cameras, among many other things. Today, they are
allowing one small carry-on, which can contain such things as a
laptop, camera, or film, but still no liquids. They still prohibit
carrying on a cell phone. Phones have to be in checked baggage.

Mine wasn't today (from LCY), I carried it on. Nice there's a bit
of consistency.

Neil

BBC report at lunchtime today said mobile phones *were* now allowed,
along with laptops and other electronic equipment. All such
equipment was likely to be separately scanned.

Obviously, things have not yet settled down. The BAA web site for
Heathrow still says that mobile phones have to be checked, and cannot
be carried aboard. The web site for LCY just says that mobile phones
have to be removed from your carry-on bag, and be scanned separately.

Just after I sent that, I was looking at the Heathrow web site, and it
has now been updated to mention that mobile phones are OK. In addition,
they have another new set of rules taking effect tomorrow:

http://tinyurl.com/f93tb

Seeing how changeable the situation is, that link probably won't work
after 10 minutes, so here is a copy of the pertinent parts of the new
rules:

===========================================
Hand baggage restrictions (applies today, 14 August)
Passengers are restricted from carrying hand baggage into the cabin of an
aircraft. However, we will allow passengers to come to security with
unrestricted items in a clear plastic bag. We will also now permit
additional items such as mobile phones and car keys.

* Pocket size wallets and pocket size purses plus contents (for
example money, credit cards, identity cards etc (not handbags))
* Travel documents essential for the journey (for example passports
and travel tickets)
* Prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential
for the flight (eg diabetic kit), except in liquid form unless verified
as authentic
* Spectacles and sunglasses, without cases
* Contact lens holders, without bottles of solution
* For those travelling with an infant: baby food, milk (the contents
of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger)
* Sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (nappies,
wipes, creams and nappy disposal bags).
female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if
unboxed (eg tampons, pads, towels and wipes)
* Tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs
* Keys
* Mobile phones
* Any food purchased in the international departures lounge must be
consumed before boarding
* Pushchairs and walking aids must be x-ray screened, and only
airport-provided wheelchairs may pass through the screening point.

----------------------------------------------------

New hand baggage guidelines (applies tomorrow, 15 August)

Strictly one item of cabin baggage per passenger, no bigger than the size
of a laptop of small rucksack - 35cm (13.5 inches) wide x 45cm (17.5
inches) long x 16cm (6.5 inches) high.

The bag must NOT contain:
- Any liquids, cosmetics or toiletries, including gels, pastes, lotions,
liquid/solid mixtures, perfumes and the contents of pressurised
containers - these must be checked in as hold baggage
- Cigarette lighters are NOT permitted in hold baggage or through the
security search. These may be purchased airside.

The bag CAN include:
- Electronic equipment including mobile phones, digital cameras and MP3
players (such as i-Pods)
- Prescription medicines in liquid form, eg diabetic kit
- Baby milk and liquid baby food (the contents of each bottle MUST be
tasted by the accompanying passenger)
- Laptops must be removed from the bag for x-ray.

All remaining items in pockets should be placed in the clear plastic bag
provided, eg car keys and fobs, cash, solid food, books, newspapers,
cigarettes and tobacco. Pushchairs and walking aids are permitted but
must be x-ray screened. All wheelchairs will be subject to search. Please
note: You may be subject to a hand search by the security team and
required to remove footwear to be x-ray screened.

Once in the departure lounge passengers may purchase any item in any
store and take it onto the aircraft as normal unless you are travelling
to the USA.

Travelling to the USA?
Today – Monday 14 August:
Extra restrictions are in place – you WILL NOT be permitted to take any
liquid or gel items purchased in the departures lounge into the aircraft
cabin. All food or beverage items must be consumed before boarding.

Tomorrow – Tuesday 15 August:
Cabin baggage which adheres to the new regulations will be permitted on
board. However, extra restrictions remain in place and you WILL NOT be
permitted to take any liquid or gel items purchased in the departures
lounge into the aircraft cabin. All food or beverage items must be
consumed before boarding.

Hand baggage:
Permitted hand baggage size as from Tuesday 15 August:
45cm X 35cm X 16 cm

17.5 inches X 13.5 inches x 6 inches

Old permitted hand baggage size:
56cm X 45cm X 25cm

22 inches X 17.5 inches X 9.5 inches

Are wrist watches prohibited? Or would mechanical watches be allowed,
but electronic watches forbidden?

Are all writing implements with fliud ink forbidden? Would it be
sufficient to emty the ink from a fountain pen? How would you remove
the ink from a ball point pen, a roller ball pen, or a felt tip marker?

None of these are explicitly listed on the lists of permitted or
prohibited itmes.

James Robinson wrote:
Frank Slootweg wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

James Robinson wrote:

You can still carry cameras aboard on flights originating in the
USA. The only place in the world that restricts you are flights
originating in the UK.

I think you are mistaken. Our (August 12) newspaper had a picture
of (*TSA*) guards at Denver airport disallowing a bottle of
babyfood in passenger's carryon luggage. Last time I checked,
Denver was not in the UK (Well, at least the UK one doesn't have
TSA staff.).

Baby food is not a camera, which was the subject at hand.

I realize(d) that. My point is that it was at least implied that
only flight originating in the UK had/have restrictions. That's
clearly not the case. Also I don't see why a camera would be treated
differently than the other electronic items which *were/are* banned.
So I think it's safe to assume that, at least for some time, cameras
were banned also on flights which did not originate in the UK.

Electronic items were not banned in carry-on bags in the US, nor are they
now banned. The only restrictions were on liquids/gels/pastes. You
could carry your cell phone, laptop, PDA, camera, etc. aboard in your
carry-on bags.

I was not talking about "in the US". I was and am objecting to your
"The only place in the world that restricts you are flights originating
in the UK.". That was just plain wrong, both for baby food and cameras.
Example of the latter: Passenger had to check in camera on flight from
Perth, Australia, via Singapore, to London. Yes the *onward* flight was
from London (to Amsterdam), i.e. "originating in the UK", but with a
*different* airline and the camera had already to be checked in in
Perth.

The UK was the most restrictive, in that pretty well every carry-on item
was banned, up to today. That included electronic items, liquids, and
cameras, among many other things. Today, they are allowing one small
carry-on, which can contain such things as a laptop, camera, or film, but
still no liquids. They still prohibit carrying on a cell phone. Phones
have to be in checked baggage.