rail passes question!

Hi folks--

I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport. Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport? I'm not really sure
how long I'll be in Europe, but would be 2 to 3 months, maybe more--but
perhaps not enough time to be in Europe long enough to establish residency
anywhere there. Im asking this question because I havent seen it addresed
anywhere else.

Thanks,

Jean in VA

Jean S. Barto wrote:
Hi folks--

I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport. Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport? I'm not really sure
how long I'll be in Europe, but would be 2 to 3 months, maybe more--but
perhaps not enough time to be in Europe long enough to establish residency
anywhere there. Im asking this question because I havent seen it addresed
anywhere else.

Thanks,

Jean in VA



All of the rail passes I have purchased have had my passport number on
them. It is written in by the agency selling the pass. Conductors may
request to see your passport to verify that you are the person entitled
to the rail pass. Showing an Irish passport would probably result in
having your rail pass confiscated.

See more about riding the rails in Europe on my page at
http://www.enjoy-europe.com/hte/chap17/rail.htm

John Bermont
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Jean S. Barto wrote:
I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport. Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport? I'm not really sure
how long I'll be in Europe, but would be 2 to 3 months, maybe more--but
perhaps not enough time to be in Europe long enough to establish residency
anywhere there. Im asking this question because I havent seen it addresed
anywhere else.

The train conductors have no way of knowing which passport you show to
immigration. Obviously you will have your US passport with you, since it's a
legal requirement to use it when you return to the USA, so the fact that you
also have an Irish passport and may have recently shown it to someone else
is irrelevant. But in any case, the train conductors don't care. Once you
have the pass it's yours.

Do make sure that the Eurailpass is in fact cost-effective for your travel
plans. For most people it's not.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 36 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Latest photos: Queens Day in Amsterdam; the Grand Canyon; Amman, Jordan

John Bermont wrote:
All of the rail passes I have purchased have had my passport number on
them. It is written in by the agency selling the pass. Conductors may
request to see your passport to verify that you are the person entitled
to the rail pass.

And have you ever seen them look for more than 1/4 of a second?

Showing an Irish passport would probably result in having your rail pass
confiscated.

You really think so? Really? When about when you turn around and produce a
US passport, in this highly fantastical scenario? Or will they already have
burned the pass in the aisle by then?

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 36 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Latest photos: Queens Day in Amsterdam; the Grand Canyon; Amman, Jordan

Miguel Cruz wrote:
John Bermont wrote:

All of the rail passes I have purchased have had my passport number on
them. It is written in by the agency selling the pass. Conductors may
request to see your passport to verify that you are the person entitled
to the rail pass.


And have you ever seen them look for more than 1/4 of a second?


Showing an Irish passport would probably result in having your rail pass
confiscated.


You really think so? Really? When about when you turn around and produce a
US passport, in this highly fantastical scenario? Or will they already have
burned the pass in the aisle by then?

miguel


Well, Miguel is back!
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* * * Mastering Independent Budget Travel * * *
http://www.enjoy-europe.com/
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I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport. Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport?

Eurail eligibility is based on residency, not citizenship. A citizen
of a European country who does not live in Europe should be eligible to
use one by presenting additional evidence that he does not live there.

Thanks for the advice, everyone--guess I'll have to carry both passports
with me during my trip, and be prepared to present my US passport on the
train as required--and use the Irish passport at passport control (whichever
ones are left) as required.

Jean in VA

"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...
Jean S. Barto wrote:
I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live
in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport
due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I
was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is
the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport.
Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport? I'm not really
sure
how long I'll be in Europe, but would be 2 to 3 months, maybe more--but
perhaps not enough time to be in Europe long enough to establish
residency
anywhere there. Im asking this question because I havent seen it
addresed
anywhere else.

The train conductors have no way of knowing which passport you show to
immigration. Obviously you will have your US passport with you, since it's
a
legal requirement to use it when you return to the USA, so the fact that
you
also have an Irish passport and may have recently shown it to someone else
is irrelevant. But in any case, the train conductors don't care. Once you
have the pass it's yours.

Do make sure that the Eurailpass is in fact cost-effective for your travel
plans. For most people it's not.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 36 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Latest photos: Queens Day in Amsterdam; the Grand Canyon; Amman, Jordan

"John Bermont" skrev i meddelandet
...
Jean S. Barto wrote:
Hi folks--

I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport
due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I
was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is
the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport.
Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport? I'm not really
sure
how long I'll be in Europe, but would be 2 to 3 months, maybe more--but
perhaps not enough time to be in Europe long enough to establish
residency
anywhere there. Im asking this question because I havent seen it
addresed
anywhere else.

Thanks,

Jean in VA



All of the rail passes I have purchased have had my passport number on
them. It is written in by the agency selling the pass. Conductors may
request to see your passport to verify that you are the person entitled to
the rail pass. Showing an Irish passport would probably result in having
your rail pass confiscated.
Not at all. What's counting is where you're permanently residing not your
citizenship.
assuming you've an European passport you must provide some proof to the
seller that you're eligible. Once you've paid,received and validated the
railpass it's o.k , you've to on request proof that you're same person as
written on the pass but that's all.

Jean S. Barto wrote:
Thanks for the advice, everyone--guess I'll have to carry both passports
with me during my trip, and be prepared to present my US passport on the
train as required--and use the Irish passport at passport control (whichever
ones are left) as required.

You must have your real passport with you anyway, because if you are a US
citizen (even if you are also a citizen of some other country) holding a US
passport it is illegal to enter the US by showing any other passport.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 36 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Latest photos: Queens Day in Amsterdam; the Grand Canyon; Amman, Jordan

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:23:53 GMT, John Bermont
wrote:

Jean S. Barto wrote:
Hi folks--

I have a question about the *fine print* of the Eurail passes. I live in
the USA and am a US citizen. I also hold a Republic of Ireland passport due
to applying for it a few years ago (my grandfather was born there and I was
able to apply for Irish citizenship based on that. So, technically I
suppose that makes me a *dual national*--however, my main residence is the
USA and I have never lived in Ireland

When I go to Europe next spring I'd like to travel on my Irish passport. Am
I able to use a Eurail pass while using an EU passport? I'm not really sure
how long I'll be in Europe, but would be 2 to 3 months, maybe more--but
perhaps not enough time to be in Europe long enough to establish residency
anywhere there. Im asking this question because I havent seen it addresed
anywhere else.

All of the rail passes I have purchased have had my passport number on
them. It is written in by the agency selling the pass.

Odd, that. When I bought our Eurailpasses over the Web from
www.railpass.com they didn't have our passport numbers on them. I
don't believe we even had our passports then, and I know they
didn't ask for them. Perhaps if you buy them over the counter?


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