French Attitude

Particularly since nowadays the water is safer than US beer. . .

Not really. US beer is pretty safe as far as that kind of thing goes.
The mass-produced brands may have a reputation for being bland, gassy,
and mediocre, but they aren't particularly dangerous. The specialty
"craft-brewed" beers are generally quite good.

The most likely place to get "unsafe" beer is the same place that's
been in the news recently about its dairy products.


Hi,

US water just like western European water is generally speaking safe to
drink... some tastes bad... I don't like the chlorine smell/taste... and
some people think fluoride is horrible.

and mass market US beer is about like sex in a canoe...

Boston Brewing Company is a "pretty big little brewery" that puts out
good beer and has wide distribution... I'll admit to being a stockholder :-}

brew-pubs are almost common.

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and import draft) ... they even have draft root beer... there I've been
getting a domestic draft hefeweizen... but with the cool weather I'll be
switching to a porter or stout there too.

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...


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Well you didn't look hard enough

"Hackamore" a écrit dans le message de
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Particularly since nowadays the water is safer than US beer. . .

Not really. US beer is pretty safe as far as that kind of thing goes.
The mass-produced brands may have a reputation for being bland, gassy,
and mediocre, but they aren't particularly dangerous. The specialty
"craft-brewed" beers are generally quite good.

The most likely place to get "unsafe" beer is the same place that's
been in the news recently about its dairy products.


Hi,

US water just like western European water is generally speaking safe to
drink... some tastes bad... I don't like the chlorine smell/taste... and
some people think fluoride is horrible.

and mass market US beer is about like sex in a canoe...

Boston Brewing Company is a "pretty big little brewery" that puts out good
beer and has wide distribution... I'll admit to being a stockholder :-}

brew-pubs are almost common.

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection (and
import draft) ... they even have draft root beer... there I've been
getting a domestic draft hefeweizen... but with the cool weather I'll be
switching to a porter or stout there too.

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...


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== Hackamore ==
http://www.hackamore.com/
http://hackamoretravel.blogspot.com/

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about
the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is
probably too sophisticated to your tase.

Magiel wrote on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:00:20 +0200:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should
know about the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and
many more. But it is probably too sophisticated to your tase.

I've drunk those in France and I can also buy them in the US. IMHO, they
are not bad to drink on a hot day when you are very thirsty, just like
Budweiser!

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James Silverton wrote:
Magiel wrote on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:00:20 +0200:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should
know about the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and
many more. But it is probably too sophisticated to your tase.

I've drunk those in France and I can also buy them in the US. IMHO, they
are not bad to drink on a hot day when you are very thirsty, just like
Budweiser!


A few years ago I went to Europe with my brothers, both of whom love
beer, and we drank local beers throughout Denmark, Germany and France.
They ranked Carlsburg Elephant beer number one, Bittenburg number two
and 1664 in third spot. FWIW, it is brewed in Strasbourg, so it's more
of a German beer than French.

Hackamore wrote:

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...


No problem in Amsterdam eh Frank?
Have you frequented 't Arendsnest, with 200 beers?

http://www.arendsnest.nl/

Runge13 blabbles:

Well you didn't look hard enough


"Bier '33' "

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"Hackamore" a écrit dans le message de
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Particularly since nowadays the water is safer than US beer. . .

Not really. US beer is pretty safe as far as that kind of thing goes.
The mass-produced brands may have a reputation for being bland, gassy,
and mediocre, but they aren't particularly dangerous. The specialty
"craft-brewed" beers are generally quite good.

The most likely place to get "unsafe" beer is the same place that's
been in the news recently about its dairy products.


Hi,

US water just like western European water is generally speaking safe to
drink... some tastes bad... I don't like the chlorine smell/taste... and
some people think fluoride is horrible.

and mass market US beer is about like sex in a canoe...

Boston Brewing Company is a "pretty big little brewery" that puts out
good
beer and has wide distribution... I'll admit to being a stockholder :-}

brew-pubs are almost common.

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and
import draft) ... they even have draft root beer... there I've been
getting a domestic draft hefeweizen... but with the cool weather I'll be
switching to a porter or stout there too.

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...


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== Hackamore ==
http://www.hackamore.com/
http://hackamoretravel.blogspot.com/

On 10/16/2008 10:27 PM Hackamore ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

here (north edge of the Mississippi Delta) I either go to the local
brew-pub where I'll get their absolutely delicious porter this time of
year...

Memphis? Boscos (or is that Nashville)?

or a local free house with an impressive domestic microbrew selection
(and import draft)

Flying Saucer?

where I'd like to find good domestic beer is France...

Depends on where you are in France. There are a number of good
specialist breweries and even a few brewpubs, including the
Trois Brasseurs group. There are quite a few good specialist
beer bars too, and Belgian beer is also easy to find. I've
never had difficulty finding decent beer, domestic or otherwise,
in France.

On 10/17/2008 3:00 AM Magiel Venema ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

Probably you have never been to France, otherwise you should know about
the Alsace with is Kronenbourg, 33 and 1664 and many more. But it is
probably too sophisticated to your tase.

If these are the best examples of French beer you can come up with, you
have no business talking about sophistication or taste. They're all
typical boring, flabby, unexceptional lagers.

There is far better to be had in France. I'd much rather drink a nice
biére de garde from the Nord Pas-de-Calais region than any dull mass-
produced lager from a giant Alsatian beer factory. Jenlain, 3 Monts,
and St. Armand beat anything you'll get from the likes of Kronenbourg
or Pelforth.

On 10/17/2008 7:14 AM Dave Smith ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

A few years ago I went to Europe with my brothers, both of whom love
beer, and we drank local beers throughout Denmark, Germany and France.
They ranked Carlsburg Elephant beer number one, Bittenburg number two
and 1664 in third spot. FWIW, it is brewed in Strasbourg, so it's more
of a German beer than French.

Wow. That's sad. Boring Eurofizz, the lot of them, not to mention that
there's no such thing as "Bittenburg" - you probably meant "Bitburger
Pils," a popular mass-market Pilsner lager sold in the western part of
Germany.

But Carlsberg Elephant? Sad. So sad. Far better coming from the likes
of Mikkeller, Skands, Jacobsen, WinterCoat, and so many others. Same
goes for Germany; if Bitburger Pils was the best you had there, you
didn't even scratch the outermost layer of good German beer. Same goes
for Kronenbourg 1664: mass-produced Alsatian fizz-water from a giant
beer factory, but what makes it "more of a German beer than French?". I
hope for your sake you get to go back and discover what truly local beer
(as opposed to mass-produced national brands) is like. Otherwise, you
were horribly cheated.