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cruise review:(very long)
Just returned (Feb 1, 04) from a western caribbean Hollandamerica line
(HAL) cruise on the oosterdam. Although we usually cruise on princess we thought it would be nice to try something different. I will try to be as fair and honest as possible in comparing this cruise to a princess cruise. We flew from boston to ft. lauderdale & after picking up our baggage were to follow a HAL guide to our invisible bus. It finally showed up 40 minutes later & took us to the ships embarkation terminal where we sat on the bus another 20 minutes before unloading. We had checked in electroniacally but HAL lost our info so we went through a 45 minute line. At last the oosterdam. All I can say as I boarded was Wow, this ship is beautiful. The ships crew directed us right to our cabin where we met our cabin steward Jon. A pleasant fellow who seemed genuinely polite and friendly. The cabin is advertised as 25% larger but my question is larger than what? The only answer I could figure out was their previous cabins. The room layout was very crowded as well as the storage, (made for a lot of toe stubbing) The bureaus consisted of three bible size drawers, the closets (3) were somewhat better & we did find two drawers under the love seat couch which were filled w/extra bedding. The cabin decor was very bland but the roon was clean w/plenty of bright lghting. The beds were more than comfortable but slightly narrow when used as twins (bad back).. The cabin had an easy to use safe and a fridge that was so full of HALs product (Beer, Alcohol, soda etc) that there wasn't any room for your own things. even though we did not buy anything I checked the prices, a can of soda was $2.00 and a 10 oz bottle of wine was $6.50. The balcony which contained 2 wicker chairs & a small table was about equal in size to other cruise ships we have been on. One thing that bugged my was the balcony door which swung out hitting the chair in front of it. This door could not be left open to air out the cabin. I prefer the sliding glass door w/a screen. The temperature control system was very noisy and had no means of shutting it off. One problem we had was ice, we had to call room service everyday for more. We also had to call for more shampoo. (to be fair we found out later that our cabin steward wasn't up to par and had a slight case of the flu.) He never even showed up the last night (tip time) but we still left him a little something. This ship holds 1,848 passengers & was full. However it did not feel crowded as there is plentyof room & things to do. We enjoy juice & coffee room service as we are early risers. The room service was so prompt that they came 1/2 hr earlier than requested. Not good if you are in the shower:-) We ate our breakfast & lunches at the indoor/outdoor lido deck. The food was very good but I suggest you get a table first as it is very crowded during peak hours. You should go 1/2 hr before or after peak. The variety was excellent with choices from burgers to plush. They also have a nice taco bar. Our dinners were in the vista dining room where the service was wonderful. We had a great waitstaff & a wonderful humorous wine steward. The food was well prepared and presented eloquently. The desserts were scrumptous. One bad meal was a fish dish I ordered. It looked so good I gobbled up a big bite & to my surprise it was loaded with very sharp bones. That became very embarrassing as I sat there picking the bones out. but it was either that or choke. Our waiter called another waiter over who successfully proceeded to de-bone the fish but by this time it ws cold so I settled for dessert. I didn' let this bother me as I felt no one person is perfect all the time and neither is one cruise line. In fact we actually had a few good laughs over it. The ship also had a nice gym which my wife & daughter would normally spend a lot of time at. However they were a little upset when theyfound out the fee for aerobic classes was $11.00 pp per class. Needless to say they walked instead. (by the way it's free on princess) The ship shops did not carry to much product except in the jewelery store where the prices seemed reasonable. The ship also has port & starboard exteriior elevators which allow a great view while riding them. The entertainment was excellent & would easily match las vegas. The oosterdam cast singers & dancers were superb as well as the comedians. One young group called the 5 mikes sang the oldies fr/the fifties & sixties as good as shanana did even`though they had not been born yet. Now for the tours. Our first port of call was HAls private island, Half moon cay where we took a tour to eco lagoon.($29=9B00 pp) The two tour guides were excellent and very informative. We even got the chance to hold two super large starfish before carefully releasing them back in the water. We also saw & held various sea creatures as well as seeing an old indian village replica. Half moon cay is a gem w/plenty of for fee (very reasonable) water sports Geat beaches w/lounge chairs & terrific food with plenty of shaded bench areas. One nice thing is a bar if you would like a drink, but they do not hound you with waitstaff constantly running around asking. This private island is very well decorated w/plenty of help constantly keeping it clean, a real pleasure. Our next stop was Ocho Rios, Jamaica. terrible port unless you enjoy seeing how the very unfortunate live. This place is filthy and full of slums. I think HAL should take it off of its itinerary. Enough said.,,Our next port of call was Georgetown, cayman islands where we were suposed to take a flight seeing trip but it was cancelled due to bad weather. The ship had to moor on the east side of the island & ferry us into spot landing where we took a taxi to town ($16.00 pp) round trip. We opted for a llittle sightseeing & shoping, Nice town w/nice people. Our next stop was Cozumel, Mexico where we took the atlantis submarine tour ($89.00 pp) This coast guard approved sub was amazing. We saw seascapes & sea creatures as well as beautiful coral formations that only underwater divers see. I now know why scuba diving is such a fasinating sport. I would highly recommend this tour. We got back to town with time for a little shopping & boy did we, well our wives did:-) We now left Cozumel for our home port, ft. lauderdale where we spent a not so enjoyable evening packing our suitcases' We disembarked the next morning (Sun,, Feb 1) & after immigration to those dreaded busses which were nothing but bad luck for us. This time as we arrived at our bus #711, we heard very loud yelling and hollering. The next thing I saw was this very irate bus driver who was ordering people off his bus & then proceeded to throw their luggage on to a very wet tarmat as it was pouring. After some 45 minutes of continued arguing he fianlly pulled his bus out & left us standing there. I have to also blame HALs personnel for spending that much time arguing with him while we all were getting soaking wet. Finally another bus showed up but I do think some people missed their plane unless they did as others did and took a cab. When I started this review I said I would be as just & fair as possible, but I am not sure after only one cruise on HAL & 5 on Princess I will be. I guess the main question is: would I cruise on HAL again? The answer to that is yes. I think HAL & Princess are fairly equal in that each line has many good points a very few bad ones. On a scale of 1 to 10 w/10 being the highest I would rate them both around 7 to 8. I still lean a little more towards princess probally because I am more famiiar with them. I hope this review wasn't too long or boring and I close by saying: "Happy sails to you". Jim...... |
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Just returned (Feb 1, 04) from a western caribbean Hollandamerica line
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We were on the same trip and will add a couple of notes
Ships photogs, worst we have ever encountered. They did not even get over to our area (table 166) on the formal nights, very rude and then the location of where you buy photos is lousy. Entertainment, as was mentioned was very good, even for an older crowd almost every act got a standing O, whereas last year on the Z, most of the older folks did not want to get up and down. The groups in the various lounges we B4 crows nest, excellent sound excellent variety, great for dancing, danced there ever night, the trio in the ocean bar left something to be desired. Food was ok for ship board food, plenty to eat, plenty of selections, Lido deck is a giant buffet. The vista dining room had great selections and presentations, although the portions have gotten smaller over the last few years and it was hard to get something that was not on the menu. half moon cay was great, they are adding horse back riding and a sting ray complex in June Ochio rios, we went to sandals for the day, great, snorkeled for 50 minutes, lunch drinks all included. We did our own flights to and from boston, got off as about the 10th and 11th folks grabbed a cab, they started to disembark at 0845 and by 910 we were at gate F8 waiting on the flight. We would not use the cruise lines transfers, much easier by cab/ Overall, Holland is good, the vista ships are a change for them. Pete "Jim O Brien" wrote in message ... Just returned (Feb 1, 04) from a western caribbean Hollandamerica line (HAL) cruise on the oosterdam. Although we usually cruise on princess we thought it would be nice to try something different. I will try to be as fair and honest as possible in comparing this cruise to a princess cruise. We flew from boston to ft. lauderdale & after picking up our baggage were to follow a HAL guide to our invisible bus. It finally showed up 40 minutes later & took us to the ships embarkation terminal where we sat on the bus another 20 minutes before unloading. We had checked in electroniacally but HAL lost our info so we went through a 45 minute line. At last the oosterdam. All I can say as I boarded was Wow, this ship is beautiful. The ships crew directed us right to our cabin where we met our cabin steward Jon. A pleasant fellow who seemed genuinely polite and friendly. The cabin is advertised as 25% larger but my question is larger than what? The only answer I could figure out was their previous cabins. The room layout was very crowded as well as the storage, (made for a lot of toe stubbing) The bureaus consisted of three bible size drawers, the closets (3) were somewhat better & we did find two drawers under the love seat couch which were filled w/extra bedding. The cabin decor was very bland but the roon was clean w/plenty of bright lghting. The beds were more than comfortable but slightly narrow when used as twins (bad back).. The cabin had an easy to use safe and a fridge that was so full of HALs product (Beer, Alcohol, soda etc) that there wasn't any room for your own things. even though we did not buy anything I checked the prices, a can of soda was $2.00 and a 10 oz bottle of wine was $6.50. The balcony which contained 2 wicker chairs & a small table was about equal in size to other cruise ships we have been on. One thing that bugged my was the balcony door which swung out hitting the chair in front of it. This door could not be left open to air out the cabin. I prefer the sliding glass door w/a screen. The temperature control system was very noisy and had no means of shutting it off. One problem we had was ice, we had to call room service everyday for more. We also had to call for more shampoo. (to be fair we found out later that our cabin steward wasn't up to par and had a slight case of the flu.) He never even showed up the last night (tip time) but we still left him a little something. This ship holds 1,848 passengers & was full. However it did not feel crowded as there is plentyof room & things to do. We enjoy juice & coffee room service as we are early risers. The room service was so prompt that they came 1/2 hr earlier than requested. Not good if you are in the shower:-) We ate our breakfast & lunches at the indoor/outdoor lido deck. The food was very good but I suggest you get a table first as it is very crowded during peak hours. You should go 1/2 hr before or after peak. The variety was excellent with choices from burgers to plush. They also have a nice taco bar. Our dinners were in the vista dining room where the service was wonderful. We had a great waitstaff & a wonderful humorous wine steward. The food was well prepared and presented eloquently. The desserts were scrumptous. One bad meal was a fish dish I ordered. It looked so good I gobbled up a big bite & to my surprise it was loaded with very sharp bones. That became very embarrassing as I sat there picking the bones out. but it was either that or choke. Our waiter called another waiter over who successfully proceeded to de-bone the fish but by this time it ws cold so I settled for dessert. I didn' let this bother me as I felt no one person is perfect all the time and neither is one cruise line. In fact we actually had a few good laughs over it. The ship also had a nice gym which my wife & daughter would normally spend a lot of time at. However they were a little upset when theyfound out the fee for aerobic classes was $11.00 pp per class. Needless to say they walked instead. (by the way it's free on princess) The ship shops did not carry to much product except in the jewelery store where the prices seemed reasonable. The ship also has port & starboard exteriior elevators which allow a great view while riding them. The entertainment was excellent & would easily match las vegas. The oosterdam cast singers & dancers were superb as well as the comedians. One young group called the 5 mikes sang the oldies fr/the fifties & sixties as good as shanana did even`though they had not been born yet. Now for the tours. Our first port of call was HAls private island, Half moon cay where we took a tour to eco lagoon.($2900 pp) The two tour guides were excellent and very informative. We even got the chance to hold two super large starfish before carefully releasing them back in the water. We also saw & held various sea creatures as well as seeing an old indian village replica. Half moon cay is a gem w/plenty of for fee (very reasonable) water sports Geat beaches w/lounge chairs & terrific food with plenty of shaded bench areas. One nice thing is a bar if you would like a drink, but they do not hound you with waitstaff constantly running around asking. This private island is very well decorated w/plenty of help constantly keeping it clean, a real pleasure. Our next stop was Ocho Rios, Jamaica. terrible port unless you enjoy seeing how the very unfortunate live. This place is filthy and full of slums. I think HAL should take it off of its itinerary. Enough said.,,Our next port of call was Georgetown, cayman islands where we were suposed to take a flight seeing trip but it was cancelled due to bad weather. The ship had to moor on the east side of the island & ferry us into spot landing where we took a taxi to town ($16.00 pp) round trip. We opted for a llittle sightseeing & shoping, Nice town w/nice people. Our next stop was Cozumel, Mexico where we took the atlantis submarine tour ($89.00 pp) This coast guard approved sub was amazing. We saw seascapes & sea creatures as well as beautiful coral formations that only underwater divers see. I now know why scuba diving is such a fasinating sport. I would highly recommend this tour. We got back to town with time for a little shopping & boy did we, well our wives did:-) We now left Cozumel for our home port, ft. lauderdale where we spent a not so enjoyable evening packing our suitcases' We disembarked the next morning (Sun,, Feb 1) & after immigration to those dreaded busses which were nothing but bad luck for us. This time as we arrived at our bus #711, we heard very loud yelling and hollering. The next thing I saw was this very irate bus driver who was ordering people off his bus & then proceeded to throw their luggage on to a very wet tarmat as it was pouring. After some 45 minutes of continued arguing he fianlly pulled his bus out & left us standing there. I have to also blame HALs personnel for spending that much time arguing with him while we all were getting soaking wet. Finally another bus showed up but I do think some people missed their plane unless they did as others did and took a cab. When I started this review I said I would be as just & fair as possible, but I am not sure after only one cruise on HAL & 5 on Princess I will be. I guess the main question is: would I cruise on HAL again? The answer to that is yes. I think HAL & Princess are fairly equal in that each line has many good points a very few bad ones. On a scale of 1 to 10 w/10 being the highest I would rate them both around 7 to 8. I still lean a little more towards princess probally because I am more famiiar with them. I hope this review wasn't too long or boring and I close by saying: "Happy sails to you". Jim...... |
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BORING.......YUK......PUKE!
"Pete" wrote in message ... We were on the same trip and will add a couple of notes Ships photogs, worst we have ever encountered. They did not even get over to our area (table 166) on the formal nights, very rude and then the location of where you buy photos is lousy. Entertainment, as was mentioned was very good, even for an older crowd almost every act got a standing O, whereas last year on the Z, most of the older folks did not want to get up and down. The groups in the various lounges we B4 crows nest, excellent sound excellent variety, great for dancing, danced there ever night, the trio in the ocean bar left something to be desired. Food was ok for ship board food, plenty to eat, plenty of selections, Lido deck is a giant buffet. The vista dining room had great selections and presentations, although the portions have gotten smaller over the last few years and it was hard to get something that was not on the menu. half moon cay was great, they are adding horse back riding and a sting ray complex in June Ochio rios, we went to sandals for the day, great, snorkeled for 50 minutes, lunch drinks all included. We did our own flights to and from boston, got off as about the 10th and 11th folks grabbed a cab, they started to disembark at 0845 and by 910 we were at gate F8 waiting on the flight. We would not use the cruise lines transfers, much easier by cab/ Overall, Holland is good, the vista ships are a change for them. Pete "Jim O Brien" wrote in message ... Just returned (Feb 1, 04) from a western caribbean Hollandamerica line (HAL) cruise on the oosterdam. Although we usually cruise on princess we thought it would be nice to try something different. I will try to be as fair and honest as possible in comparing this cruise to a princess cruise. We flew from boston to ft. lauderdale & after picking up our baggage were to follow a HAL guide to our invisible bus. It finally showed up 40 minutes later & took us to the ships embarkation terminal where we sat on the bus another 20 minutes before unloading. We had checked in electroniacally but HAL lost our info so we went through a 45 minute line. At last the oosterdam. All I can say as I boarded was Wow, this ship is beautiful. The ships crew directed us right to our cabin where we met our cabin steward Jon. A pleasant fellow who seemed genuinely polite and friendly. The cabin is advertised as 25% larger but my question is larger than what? The only answer I could figure out was their previous cabins. The room layout was very crowded as well as the storage, (made for a lot of toe stubbing) The bureaus consisted of three bible size drawers, the closets (3) were somewhat better & we did find two drawers under the love seat couch which were filled w/extra bedding. The cabin decor was very bland but the roon was clean w/plenty of bright lghting. The beds were more than comfortable but slightly narrow when used as twins (bad back).. The cabin had an easy to use safe and a fridge that was so full of HALs product (Beer, Alcohol, soda etc) that there wasn't any room for your own things. even though we did not buy anything I checked the prices, a can of soda was $2.00 and a 10 oz bottle of wine was $6.50. The balcony which contained 2 wicker chairs & a small table was about equal in size to other cruise ships we have been on. One thing that bugged my was the balcony door which swung out hitting the chair in front of it. This door could not be left open to air out the cabin. I prefer the sliding glass door w/a screen. The temperature control system was very noisy and had no means of shutting it off. One problem we had was ice, we had to call room service everyday for more. We also had to call for more shampoo. (to be fair we found out later that our cabin steward wasn't up to par and had a slight case of the flu.) He never even showed up the last night (tip time) but we still left him a little something. This ship holds 1,848 passengers & was full. However it did not feel crowded as there is plentyof room & things to do. We enjoy juice & coffee room service as we are early risers. The room service was so prompt that they came 1/2 hr earlier than requested. Not good if you are in the shower:-) We ate our breakfast & lunches at the indoor/outdoor lido deck. The food was very good but I suggest you get a table first as it is very crowded during peak hours. You should go 1/2 hr before or after peak. The variety was excellent with choices from burgers to plush. They also have a nice taco bar. Our dinners were in the vista dining room where the service was wonderful. We had a great waitstaff & a wonderful humorous wine steward. The food was well prepared and presented eloquently. The desserts were scrumptous. One bad meal was a fish dish I ordered. It looked so good I gobbled up a big bite & to my surprise it was loaded with very sharp bones. That became very embarrassing as I sat there picking the bones out. but it was either that or choke. Our waiter called another waiter over who successfully proceeded to de-bone the fish but by this time it ws cold so I settled for dessert. I didn' let this bother me as I felt no one person is perfect all the time and neither is one cruise line. In fact we actually had a few good laughs over it. The ship also had a nice gym which my wife & daughter would normally spend a lot of time at. However they were a little upset when theyfound out the fee for aerobic classes was $11.00 pp per class. Needless to say they walked instead. (by the way it's free on princess) The ship shops did not carry to much product except in the jewelery store where the prices seemed reasonable. The ship also has port & starboard exteriior elevators which allow a great view while riding them. The entertainment was excellent & would easily match las vegas. The oosterdam cast singers & dancers were superb as well as the comedians. One young group called the 5 mikes sang the oldies fr/the fifties & sixties as good as shanana did even`though they had not been born yet. Now for the tours. Our first port of call was HAls private island, Half moon cay where we took a tour to eco lagoon.($2900 pp) The two tour guides were excellent and very informative. We even got the chance to hold two super large starfish before carefully releasing them back in the water. We also saw & held various sea creatures as well as seeing an old indian village replica. Half moon cay is a gem w/plenty of for fee (very reasonable) water sports Geat beaches w/lounge chairs & terrific food with plenty of shaded bench areas. One nice thing is a bar if you would like a drink, but they do not hound you with waitstaff constantly running around asking. This private island is very well decorated w/plenty of help constantly keeping it clean, a real pleasure. Our next stop was Ocho Rios, Jamaica. terrible port unless you enjoy seeing how the very unfortunate live. This place is filthy and full of slums. I think HAL should take it off of its itinerary. Enough said.,,Our next port of call was Georgetown, cayman islands where we were suposed to take a flight seeing trip but it was cancelled due to bad weather. The ship had to moor on the east side of the island & ferry us into spot landing where we took a taxi to town ($16.00 pp) round trip. We opted for a llittle sightseeing & shoping, Nice town w/nice people. Our next stop was Cozumel, Mexico where we took the atlantis submarine tour ($89.00 pp) This coast guard approved sub was amazing. We saw seascapes & sea creatures as well as beautiful coral formations that only underwater divers see. I now know why scuba diving is such a fasinating sport. I would highly recommend this tour. We got back to town with time for a little shopping & boy did we, well our wives did:-) We now left Cozumel for our home port, ft. lauderdale where we spent a not so enjoyable evening packing our suitcases' We disembarked the next morning (Sun,, Feb 1) & after immigration to those dreaded busses which were nothing but bad luck for us. This time as we arrived at our bus #711, we heard very loud yelling and hollering. The next thing I saw was this very irate bus driver who was ordering people off his bus & then proceeded to throw their luggage on to a very wet tarmat as it was pouring. After some 45 minutes of continued arguing he fianlly pulled his bus out & left us standing there. I have to also blame HALs personnel for spending that much time arguing with him while we all were getting soaking wet. Finally another bus showed up but I do think some people missed their plane unless they did as others did and took a cab. When I started this review I said I would be as just & fair as possible, but I am not sure after only one cruise on HAL & 5 on Princess I will be. I guess the main question is: would I cruise on HAL again? The answer to that is yes. I think HAL & Princess are fairly equal in that each line has many good points a very few bad ones. On a scale of 1 to 10 w/10 being the highest I would rate them both around 7 to 8. I still lean a little more towards princess probally because I am more famiiar with them. I hope this review wasn't too long or boring and I close by saying: "Happy sails to you". Jim...... |
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Thanks for your review of the Oosterdam, Jim. It was not boring at
all, I enjoyed reading every word of your review. You compared your HAL cruise to your many cruises on Princess. I have cruised on Princess a few times but I have not cruised on HAL, but I am thinking about it. Can you compare the entertainment on both cruise lines, and how would you compare their buffet breakfasts and lunches? Becca -----never makes it to the dining room during the day... Mariner of the Seas 3/04 Norwegian Dawn http://www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/ |
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Thank you Jim....Im traveling HAL in November and found your post
informative. "Becca" wrote in message ... Thanks for your review of the Oosterdam, Jim. It was not boring at all, I enjoyed reading every word of your review. You compared your HAL cruise to your many cruises on Princess. I have cruised on Princess a few times but I have not cruised on HAL, but I am thinking about it. Can you compare the entertainment on both cruise lines, and how would you compare their buffet breakfasts and lunches? Becca -----never makes it to the dining room during the day... Mariner of the Seas 3/04 Norwegian Dawn http://www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/ |
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Becca, as mentioned we also just got off teh O and last year were on the
Zuiderdam, we found the entertainment to be outstanding. I felt it was a bit better on HAL. The buffets are what they are buffets but HAL does a great job with the lido deck, with the diversity of food, can be a bit hectic. Morning you will have an omlete station, an express station (scrambled eggs, bacon sausage etc), then the normal line for your egss the way you want them, french toast etc, fruit. Lunch you will have a deli station, pasta station, wok station sushi, and then multiple selections for the flavor of the day, (american, indonesian) Comparison princess and HAL about the same It is still shipboard food Pete "Becca" wrote in message ... Thanks for your review of the Oosterdam, Jim. It was not boring at all, I enjoyed reading every word of your review. You compared your HAL cruise to your many cruises on Princess. I have cruised on Princess a few times but I have not cruised on HAL, but I am thinking about it. Can you compare the entertainment on both cruise lines, and how would you compare their buffet breakfasts and lunches? Becca -----never makes it to the dining room during the day... Mariner of the Seas 3/04 Norwegian Dawn http://www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm MOAGC http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com/ |
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"Jim O Brien" wrote in message ... Just returned (Feb 1, 04) from a western caribbean Hollandamerica line Thanks for an interesting review, Jim. Was surprised that cans of soda were $2.~they were still $1.50 on the Radiance. I think we (on the Radiance of the Seas) saw the Oosterdam in Ft. Lauderdale on Jan.25th and at one of the ports~Grand Cayman perhaps?? --Jean |
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Jean when you bought a soda from the bartenders etc it was 1.75. 2.00 for
the one in the mini fridge. And those are not even 12 ounces. We found to that for a glass of white z, it was 4.35 in the crows nest, but 4.50 in the dining room. We just brought our own water and soda and used the fridge. On the last day they lock the mini fridge, so they can close down your account. Pete "Jean O'Boyle" wrote in message . com... "Jim O Brien" wrote in message ... Just returned (Feb 1, 04) from a western caribbean Hollandamerica line Thanks for an interesting review, Jim. Was surprised that cans of soda were $2.~they were still $1.50 on the Radiance. I think we (on the Radiance of the Seas) saw the Oosterdam in Ft. Lauderdale on Jan.25th and at one of the ports~Grand Cayman perhaps?? --Jean |
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