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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousandsof NHS health professionals to be sacked
Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands
of NHS health professionals to be sacked http://preview.tinyurl.com/116b4zEvleths Excerpt: "Thousands of doctors and nurses face the sack after the election under devastating cuts being planned by NHS bureaucrats, according to two studies. Despite repeated promises from Labour ministers to safeguard patient care, front-line staff look set to bear the brunt of a Whitehall diktat that the NHS slash its budgets by billions of pounds. Last night nursing leaders warned the cuts could see the return of Third World wards and long waits for treatment - and could even threaten the lives of patients. A report from the Royal College of Nursing (RCN) has identified 5,600 jobs which are under threat....." |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
On Apr 26, 6:49*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked http://preview.tinyurl.com/116b4zEvleths Excerpt: "Thousands of doctors and nurses face the sack after the election under devastating cuts being planned by NHS bureaucrats, according to two studies. Despite repeated promises from Labour ministers to safeguard patient care, front-line staff look set to bear the brunt of a Whitehall diktat that the NHS slash its budgets by billions of pounds. Last night nursing leaders warned the cuts could see the return of Third World wards and long waits for treatment - and could even threaten the lives of patients. A report from the Royal College of Nursing (RCN) has identified 5,600 jobs which are under threat....." A UK nurse responds after reading the article in UK news. "As a nurse reading this has made feel ill - I have a family, a mortgage & 2 cats to feed. It has come as a nasty surprise on my day off. What makes my blood boil is that I get to read it first in the media - I've been nursing 28 years now and this is the first time that I've really believed that I could be sacked. If I and my colleaugues are disposed of it begs the question "WHO WILL CARE FOR THE SICK?" The wards of many hospitals are already in melt down - one is asked to try and attain almost unattainable targets and complete more and more pieces of work. To my tired and cynical eye it appears that only the managers get coffee breaks (generalisation I suppose) and the nursing staff never have enough time in the day to give quality care. I am cheesed off with the unions and the RCN - they need to really develop some teeth and tell the politicians to back off - I can assure you that nurses are sick and tired of the health of the general public being turned into an economic exercise" - Jo, Milton Keynes, 26/4/2010 9:2 |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:
On Apr 26, 6:49 am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote: Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked http://preview.tinyurl.com/116b4zEvleths Excerpt: "Thousands of doctors and nurses face the sack after the election under devastating cuts being planned by NHS bureaucrats, according to two studies. Despite repeated promises from Labour ministers to safeguard patient care, front-line staff look set to bear the brunt of a Whitehall diktat that the NHS slash its budgets by billions of pounds. Last night nursing leaders warned the cuts could see the return of Third World wards and long waits for treatment - and could even threaten the lives of patients. A report from the Royal College of Nursing (RCN) has identified 5,600 jobs which are under threat....." A UK nurse responds after reading the article in UK news. "As a nurse reading this has made feel ill - I have a family, a mortgage & 2 cats to feed. It has come as a nasty surprise on my day off. What makes my blood boil is that I get to read it first in the media - I've been nursing 28 years now and this is the first time that I've really believed that I could be sacked. If I and my colleaugues are disposed of it begs the question "WHO WILL CARE FOR THE SICK?" The wards of many hospitals are already in melt down - one is asked to try and attain almost unattainable targets and complete more and more pieces of work. To my tired and cynical eye it appears that only the managers get coffee breaks (generalisation I suppose) and the nursing staff never have enough time in the day to give quality care. I am cheesed off with the unions and the RCN - they need to really develop some teeth and tell the politicians to back off - I can assure you that nurses are sick and tired of the health of the general public being turned into an economic exercise" - Jo, Milton Keynes, 26/4/2010 9:2 If she's got 28 years in after qualification she's entitled to a full pension on redundancy at any age over 51. Plus she can then go and work for one of our many private hospitals for a huge wage on top of her 50% pension... This being the case, and all the above prose being in the Daily Mail, I'm inclined to think that it's all a pack of lies... -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
On Apr 26, 11:49*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked As you are well aware, the Daily Mail (and its readers) thinks that all foreigners are rapists, killers or thieves so you'd better watch out. There's a simple rule to apply to what you read in the Mail - proven time and again in the courts - don't believe a word. Well, "Daily", obviously. And they probably don't falsify the date or price on the cover. The ads - they're OK, you can believe them, well, more than you can believe the rest of it. So, if the Daily Mail says thousands will lose their jobs you can bet their cute little mid-Atalantic ass there's a shortage of trained professionals and a recruiting drive is in the offing. UD |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 26, 11:49 am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote: Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked As you are well aware, the Daily Mail (and its readers) thinks that all foreigners are rapists, killers or thieves so you'd better watch out. There's a simple rule to apply to what you read in the Mail - proven time and again in the courts - don't believe a word. Well, "Daily", obviously. And they probably don't falsify the date or price on the cover. The ads - they're OK, you can believe them, well, more than you can believe the rest of it. So, if the Daily Mail says thousands will lose their jobs you can bet their cute little mid-Atalantic ass there's a shortage of trained professionals and a recruiting drive is in the offing. UD All in all the perfect organ for our resident idiot, peejay. |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
On Apr 26, 11:26*am, Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 26, 11:49*am, "Tis Odonovan, *Himself" wrote: Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked As you are well aware, the Daily Mail (and its readers) thinks that all foreigners are rapists, killers or thieves so you'd better watch out. *There's a simple rule to apply to what you read in the Mail - proven time and again in the courts - don't believe a word. *Well, "Daily", obviously. *And they probably don't falsify the date or price on the cover. *The ads - they're OK, you can believe them, well, more than you can believe the rest of it. So, if the Daily Mail says thousands will lose their jobs you can bet their cute little mid-Atalantic ass there's a shortage of trained professionals and a recruiting drive is in the offing. UD Endemic with Leftism: When you you don't like the message always go after the messenger. Don't like the Daily Mail? If you bothered to search you would find it in The Guardian today. Let me know if you want more sources. Health trusts plan thousands of job cuts by stealth, nurses warn • 36,000 to go in worst case, says RCN head of policy • Fears follow NHS warning of £20bn savings by 2014 (7) Tweet this (54) Randeep Ramesh, Social affairs editor The Guardian, Monday 26 April 2010 |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
On Apr 26, 4:43*pm, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote: On Apr 26, 11:26*am, Uncle Dave wrote: On Apr 26, 11:49*am, "Tis Odonovan, *Himself" wrote: Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked As you are well aware, the Daily Mail (and its readers) thinks that all foreigners are rapists, killers or thieves so you'd better watch out. *There's a simple rule to apply to what you read in the Mail - proven time and again in the courts - don't believe a word. *Well, "Daily", obviously. *And they probably don't falsify the date or price on the cover. *The ads - they're OK, you can believe them, well, more than you can believe the rest of it. So, if the Daily Mail says thousands will lose their jobs you can bet their cute little mid-Atalantic ass there's a shortage of trained professionals and a recruiting drive is in the offing. UD Endemic with Leftism: When you you don't like the message always go after the messenger. Don't like the Daily Mail? If you bothered to search you would find it in The Guardian today. So what? People have always moaned about the NHS and its main problem has been that it is a political football. At least now hospitals have to attain certain criteria or face being handed over to another, better performing, hospital and GPs handle their own budgets. That's not always a good thing, but the whole thing is far more service and customer oriented than it used to be. Obviously there are always going to be poorly run hospitals just as there are poorly run businesses and governments. My local hospital has improved greatly - not just according to the criteria but as witnessed by patients such as myself - and we can now get appointments easily at our GP without being told we had to stay ill till a week next Thursday. Although it's not perfect, as somebody who has lived in other countries such as myself will testify, I think it's terrific value for money and much better than it used to be. Mind you, I have private insurance too ;-) UD |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
On Apr 26, 12:07*pm, Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 26, 4:43*pm, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote: On Apr 26, 11:26*am, Uncle Dave wrote: On Apr 26, 11:49*am, "Tis Odonovan, *Himself" wrote: Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked As you are well aware, the Daily Mail (and its readers) thinks that all foreigners are rapists, killers or thieves so you'd better watch out. *There's a simple rule to apply to what you read in the Mail - proven time and again in the courts - don't believe a word. *Well, "Daily", obviously. *And they probably don't falsify the date or price on the cover. *The ads - they're OK, you can believe them, well, more than you can believe the rest of it. So, if the Daily Mail says thousands will lose their jobs you can bet their cute little mid-Atalantic ass there's a shortage of trained professionals and a recruiting drive is in the offing. UD Endemic with Leftism: When you you don't like the message always go after the messenger. Don't like the Daily Mail? If you bothered to search you would find it in The Guardian today. So what? *People have always moaned about the NHS and its main problem has been that it is a political football. *At least now hospitals have to attain certain criteria or face being handed over to another, better performing, hospital and GPs handle their own budgets. *That's not always a good thing, but the whole thing is far more service and customer oriented than it used to be. *Obviously there are always going to be poorly run hospitals just as there are poorly run businesses and governments. *My local hospital has improved greatly - not just according to the criteria but as witnessed by patients such as myself - and we can now get appointments easily at our GP without being told we had to stay ill till a week next Thursday. *Although it's not perfect, as somebody who has lived in other countries such as myself will testify, I think it's terrific value for money and much better than it used to be. *Mind you, I have private insurance too ;-) UD Excerpts from todays Guardian covering NHS planned sackings of health professionals "...In an online survey of 287 nurses earlier this month, the RCN said hospital wards were already operating with an average of 13% fewer staff than officially needed. Nine out 10 nurses said that patient care was being compromised by short staffing..." And "..Disclosures made under the Freedom of Information Act at the request of the Tories show half of NHS trusts that responded were planning reductions in the numbers of full-time equivalent doctors and nurses...." The Guardian From Wiki "...Editorial articles in The Guardian are generally to the left of the political spectrum..." |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
On Apr 26, 5:26*pm, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote: snip Excerpts from todays Guardian covering NHS planned sackings of health professionals "...In an online survey of 287 nurses earlier this month, the RCN said hospital wards were already operating with an average of 13% fewer staff than officially needed. Nine out 10 nurses said that patient care was being compromised by short staffing..." I have several members of the nursing profession in my family and they all agree that a major problem is that nurses aren't nurses any more. They mare mostly managers, and the ridiculous idea that they should all have degrees is bound to have a negative effect on patient care. According to my sources, the problem isn't so much staffing as that nurses don't see their job as caring any more - that's the job of orderlies. I'd agree it's an area that needs to be improved, but I doubt it will be any time soon. The powers-that-be (both political and administrative) in the NHS seem to have forgotten what nurses are meant to do and - so it seems - have the nurses. Who cares whether a nurse has a degree so long as (s)he can empty a bedpan or dress a wound? I have seen nothing to indicate any party is going to address this, only make it worse by distancing nurses from patients even further - they forget why the good old fashioned caring nurses became nurses. It was because they cared and that is being taken away from them. UD UD |
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Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK statesthousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked
Uncle Dave wrote:
On Apr 26, 4:43 pm, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote: On Apr 26, 11:26 am, Uncle Dave wrote: On Apr 26, 11:49 am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote: Socialized medicine coming to America? Daily Mail UK states thousands of NHS health professionals to be sacked As you are well aware, the Daily Mail (and its readers) thinks that all foreigners are rapists, killers or thieves so you'd better watch out. There's a simple rule to apply to what you read in the Mail - proven time and again in the courts - don't believe a word. Well, "Daily", obviously. And they probably don't falsify the date or price on the cover. The ads - they're OK, you can believe them, well, more than you can believe the rest of it. So, if the Daily Mail says thousands will lose their jobs you can bet their cute little mid-Atalantic ass there's a shortage of trained professionals and a recruiting drive is in the offing. UD Endemic with Leftism: When you you don't like the message always go after the messenger. Don't like the Daily Mail? If you bothered to search you would find it in The Guardian today. So what? People have always moaned about the NHS and its main problem has been that it is a political football. At least now hospitals have to attain certain criteria or face being handed over to another, better performing, hospital and GPs handle their own budgets. That's not always a good thing, but the whole thing is far more service and customer oriented than it used to be. Obviously there are always going to be poorly run hospitals just as there are poorly run businesses and governments. My local hospital has improved greatly - not just according to the criteria but as witnessed by patients such as myself - and we can now get appointments easily at our GP without being told we had to stay ill till a week next Thursday. Although it's not perfect, as somebody who has lived in other countries such as myself will testify, I think it's terrific value for money and much better than it used to be. Mind you, I have private insurance too ;-) UD That private insurance helps out the NHS. Use of non-NHS hospitals for operations and convalescence reduces the strain on an increasingly over burdened service. Anyone can see where that burden emanates if one visits hospitals in this country; not many patients under 60. I notice in all the discussions about Obama's health bill, the NHS, France's health service, socialised codswallop etc very little is devoted to possibly the largest number of patients of all i.e. those that are mentally ill. I doubt(but I don't know) whether any of America's private health insurances schemes cover mental health. So who looks after these patients? |
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