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Old November 27th, 2008, 08:15 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
Ariadne
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Default A-Z of English words with surprising origins

On 27 Nov, 15:49, "DVH" wrote:
"Jochen Kriegerowski" wrote in message

My German etymological dictionary says it derives from "riga",
venetian origin, 18th century.


Which would come from the Latin "regula" and ultimately from rex?


Nice pages and more derivations:

http://www.doge.it/regata/regata10i.htm

The actual origin of the word "Regatta" has been lost. Some writers
believe is stems from the Latin word "auriga" (from which the term
"gara" - race - also derives) while others consider it a trasformation
of the word "remicata", which is in turn from "remus". The third and
most accepted theory is that in which the word "riga" (line) is seen
as "remus". The third and most accepted theory is that in which the
word "riga" (line) is seen as the origin, from the position of the
boats at the start of the race.
  #22  
Old November 27th, 2008, 08:18 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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Miles Vaches wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bowords126.xml

A-Z of English words with surprising origins


Not many surprises there. Flamenco meaning Fleming is unexpected.
  #23  
Old November 27th, 2008, 09:24 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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"Uncle Dave" wrote in message
...
On Nov 27, 11:24 am, Miles Vaches wrote:

snip ad

You missed one - WTF. As in "WTF has this got to do with rugby?" Oh,
and you failed to include "spam".

UD

Actually, WTF does this have to do with *any* of these groups?


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Old November 27th, 2008, 10:20 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Default A-Z of English words with surprising origins

Hatunen wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:32:59 -0000, "Gerald Oliver Swift"
wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bowords126.xml
When I set out to write a study of the history of words, I thought I
had a decent grasp......

• 'The Secret Life of Words: How English Became English' by Henry
Hitchings (John Murray Publishing, £16.99) is available from Telegraph
Bookshop for £14.99 + £1.25 p&p. To order, call 0844 871 1515 or go to
books.telegraph.co.uk


The author of this (sad) piece probably never even thought to look at these
two sites:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...foreign_origin
http://www.krysstal.com/borrow.html


Or to have posted it in alt.usage.english ...


http://etymonline.com/

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Old November 27th, 2008, 11:34 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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"Ariadne" wrote in message
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On 27 Nov, 15:49, "DVH" wrote:
"Jochen Kriegerowski" wrote in message

My German etymological dictionary says it derives from "riga",
venetian origin, 18th century.


Which would come from the Latin "regula" and ultimately from rex?


Nice pages and more derivations:

http://www.doge.it/regata/regata10i.htm

The actual origin of the word "Regatta" has been lost. Some writers
believe is stems from the Latin word "auriga" (from which the term
"gara" - race - also derives) while others consider it a trasformation
of the word "remicata", which is in turn from "remus". The third and
most accepted theory is that in which the word "riga" (line) is seen
as "remus". The third and most accepted theory is that in which the
word "riga" (line) is seen as the origin, from the position of the
boats at the start of the race.


I feel better educated now.


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Old November 27th, 2008, 11:49 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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Default A-Z of English words with surprising origins

On 27 Nov, 22:34, "DVH" wrote:
"Ariadne" wrote in message
Which would come from the Latin "regula" and ultimately from rex?


Nice pages and more derivations:


http://www.doge.it/regata/regata10i.htm


The actual origin of the word "Regatta" has been lost. Some writers
believe is stems from the Latin word "auriga" (from which the term
"gara" - race - also derives) while others consider it a trasformation
of the word "remicata", which is in turn from "remus". The third and
most accepted theory is that in which the word "riga" (line) is seen
as "remus". The third and most accepted theory is that in which the
word "riga" (line) is seen as the origin, from the position of the
boats at the start of the race.


I feel better educated now.


I just feel deprived by not owning an OED.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 05:40 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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Default A-Z of English words with surprising origins

Ariadne wrote:


Part of what makes English such a beautiful language.


As beautiful as English is, what makes it most amazing
is that every English speaking nation has a different
dialect and some have many dialects.

Once on a train to London, I was in a conversation with
two men from the far north of Scotland, a Cockney, an
Irishman, and an Englishman from Newcastle. I kept
turning to the Englishman and asking "What did he say?"

It's several nations separated by a common language.

Dick
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Old November 28th, 2008, 06:42 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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On Nov 27, 11:41*am, didgerman wrote:
Miles Vaches wrote:
On 27 Nov, 14:04, "Road_Hog" wrote:
"Miles Vaches" spammed the ...


Snipped a load of spam.


So Bill Tong, which you are because you use the same email address
any particular reason you are spamming this group
under another sock puppet alias?


yes, its called 'culture'....... ;-)


Culture is a word derived from the Greek 'culture', meaning: to have an
itchy arse.


If it's Greek with an itchy arse, matua knows how to scratch it...

Keegan...
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Old November 28th, 2008, 08:51 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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michaelnewpoort has spoken.

"Miles Vaches" a écrit dans le message de
...
On 27 Nov, 17:41, didgerman wrote:
Miles Vaches wrote:
On 27 Nov, 14:04, "Road_Hog" wrote:
"Miles Vaches" spammed the
...


Snipped a load of spam.


So Bill Tong, which you are because you use the same email address
any particular reason you are spamming this
group
under another sock puppet alias?


yes, its called 'culture'....... ;-)


Culture is a word derived from the Greek 'culture', meaning: to have an
itchy arse.


..... 2 things Road_Hog has learnt today.....


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Old November 28th, 2008, 05:10 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,uk.politics.misc,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.australia+nz,rec.sport.rugby.union
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Default A-Z of English words with surprising origins

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:41:52 +0100, Giovanni Drogo
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Miles Vaches wrote:

Regatta, from Venetian dialect, it originally signified any kind of
contest.


I may just repeat what I said a while ago (april 2008) in another thread
on r.t.e. As a native speaker of Italian, a language where double
consonants are significant, I'm always puzzled by the fact in English
you write "regatta" with 2 t's, while in Italian we write "regata" with
one t.


The answer is quite simple: "regatta" is an English word,
"regata" an Italian word. I'm not trying to be flip; ths is a
very important language concept that some have a hard time
accepting.


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