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  #11  
Old March 6th, 2010, 07:33 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Becca
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frijoli wrote:
Stu wrote:


Obviously you are not a cook, ground beef needs to be cooked well
done. Steak is different.

Explain.


Bacteria gets on the outside of meat, then the meat is ground into
hamburger; when the hamburger is cooked rare, the bacteria is not
destroyed. You can have steak cooked rare, because the outside of the
meat is cooked, destroying the bacteria that sits on the outside of the
meat.


Stu and I have a mutual acquaintance in another newsgroup named Blake,
who lost both of his legs due to eating a hamburger that was infected
with e.coli. He is in a wheelchair, but he is lucky he lived, some of
the others didn't make it.


Hamburger is made from the ends and pieces of meat, so the 2-lb package
of hamburger you are looking at, could have been made from a mixture of
dozens of different cows, because of the way meat is processed. Ground
chuck and ground round is made the same way, it all gets ground and it
is mixed with the meat from different cows. All it takes, is for one
piece of meat that has e.coli, to infect a large quantity of meat.


Some restaurants get around this, buy purchasing meat and grinding it
themselves. They can offer you a medium rare hamburger at much less
risk, than purchasing meat that is already ground.


Becca

  #12  
Old March 6th, 2010, 10:04 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Surfer E2468
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Never eat any meat that is not WELL DONE, Also never eat raw clams
on the half shell any more since getting hepititus from eating them many
years ago.





cruise lover(~~~~~)






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  #13  
Old March 7th, 2010, 03:01 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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In article , Sue Mullen
wrote:

Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol


That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by
it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese.

--
Charles
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Old March 7th, 2010, 03:07 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Charles[_1_]
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In article , Brian K
wrote:

I've been grilling burgers rare, medium rare, medium and medium well
done since I worked at a Shoney's while in college. Neither I or anyone
I've cooked burgers for has had one iota of food related illness.


Be that as it may that does not prove that it is okay to undercook
burgers. Whatever color they are and whatever you want to call the
doneness they should be cooked to 160 degrees as Stu posted.

--
Charles
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Old March 7th, 2010, 05:01 AM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Sue Mullen
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Charles wrote:
In article , Sue Mullen
wrote:

Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol


That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by
it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese.


With burgers we do medium, but it just isn't as good as when we did
medium rare.

sue
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Old March 7th, 2010, 01:35 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Kurt Ullman
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In article ,
Sue Mullen wrote:

Charles wrote:
In article , Sue Mullen
wrote:

Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol


That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by
it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese.


With burgers we do medium, but it just isn't as good as when we did
medium rare.


Of course this whole part of the discussion could be easily avoided
if teh FDA would allow meat to be radiated. Kill everything and leave no
problems. But since Nuclear remains such a nasty word no matter the use,
we get people needlessly hurt.

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I get off on '57 Chevys
I get off on screamin' guitars
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Old March 7th, 2010, 03:45 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
frijoli[_5_]
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
Sue Mullen wrote:

Charles wrote:
In article , Sue Mullen
wrote:

Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol
That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by
it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese.

With burgers we do medium, but it just isn't as good as when we did
medium rare.


Of course this whole part of the discussion could be easily avoided
if teh FDA would allow meat to be radiated. Kill everything and leave no
problems. But since Nuclear remains such a nasty word no matter the use,
we get people needlessly hurt.

Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though.
  #18  
Old March 7th, 2010, 04:09 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Kurt Ullman
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In article ,
frijoli wrote:

K
Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though.


If you irradiate the idiots who don't wash their hands or come on a
cruise knowing full well that they are sick, it couldn't hurt.

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I get off on '57 Chevys
I get off on screamin' guitars
--Eric Clapton
  #19  
Old March 7th, 2010, 05:07 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
frijoli[_5_]
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
frijoli wrote:

K
Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though.


If you irradiate the idiots who don't wash their hands or come on a
cruise knowing full well that they are sick, it couldn't hurt.


Okay, I'll give you that one!
  #20  
Old March 7th, 2010, 05:30 PM posted to rec.travel.cruises
Tom K
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On 3/7/10 10:09 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In ,
wrote:

K
Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though.


If you irradiate the idiots who don't wash their hands or come on a
cruise knowing full well that they are sick, it couldn't hurt.


or if the cruise line managers didn't force the sick workers to work...
that couldn't hurt either.
 




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