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frijoli wrote:
Stu wrote: Obviously you are not a cook, ground beef needs to be cooked well done. Steak is different. Explain. Bacteria gets on the outside of meat, then the meat is ground into hamburger; when the hamburger is cooked rare, the bacteria is not destroyed. You can have steak cooked rare, because the outside of the meat is cooked, destroying the bacteria that sits on the outside of the meat. Stu and I have a mutual acquaintance in another newsgroup named Blake, who lost both of his legs due to eating a hamburger that was infected with e.coli. He is in a wheelchair, but he is lucky he lived, some of the others didn't make it. Hamburger is made from the ends and pieces of meat, so the 2-lb package of hamburger you are looking at, could have been made from a mixture of dozens of different cows, because of the way meat is processed. Ground chuck and ground round is made the same way, it all gets ground and it is mixed with the meat from different cows. All it takes, is for one piece of meat that has e.coli, to infect a large quantity of meat. Some restaurants get around this, buy purchasing meat and grinding it themselves. They can offer you a medium rare hamburger at much less risk, than purchasing meat that is already ground. Becca |
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Never eat any meat that is not WELL DONE, Also never eat raw clams
on the half shell any more since getting hepititus from eating them many years ago. cruise lover(~~~~~) .. |
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In article , Sue Mullen
wrote: Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese. -- Charles |
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In article , Brian K
wrote: I've been grilling burgers rare, medium rare, medium and medium well done since I worked at a Shoney's while in college. Neither I or anyone I've cooked burgers for has had one iota of food related illness. Be that as it may that does not prove that it is okay to undercook burgers. Whatever color they are and whatever you want to call the doneness they should be cooked to 160 degrees as Stu posted. -- Charles |
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Charles wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese. With burgers we do medium, but it just isn't as good as when we did medium rare. sue |
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In article ,
Sue Mullen wrote: Charles wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese. With burgers we do medium, but it just isn't as good as when we did medium rare. Of course this whole part of the discussion could be easily avoided if teh FDA would allow meat to be radiated. Kill everything and leave no problems. But since Nuclear remains such a nasty word no matter the use, we get people needlessly hurt. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton |
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Charles wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Any beef cooked "well done" is not edible.lol That is why a rarely eat hamburgers. But burgers can be made edible by it's accessories. Like tomatoes, mushrooms and strong cheese. With burgers we do medium, but it just isn't as good as when we did medium rare. Of course this whole part of the discussion could be easily avoided if teh FDA would allow meat to be radiated. Kill everything and leave no problems. But since Nuclear remains such a nasty word no matter the use, we get people needlessly hurt. Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though. |
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In article ,
frijoli wrote: K Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though. If you irradiate the idiots who don't wash their hands or come on a cruise knowing full well that they are sick, it couldn't hurt. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton |
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article , frijoli wrote: K Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though. If you irradiate the idiots who don't wash their hands or come on a cruise knowing full well that they are sick, it couldn't hurt. Okay, I'll give you that one! |
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On 3/7/10 10:09 AM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In , wrote: K Yes, but it won't get rid of the Noro sickness though. If you irradiate the idiots who don't wash their hands or come on a cruise knowing full well that they are sick, it couldn't hurt. or if the cruise line managers didn't force the sick workers to work... that couldn't hurt either. |
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