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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
: Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or Kulp? Both seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no longer mention a good run for the money. I think Mxs will probably retain the title, but Kulp is sure closing the distance between them A picture of Kulp studying wake turbulance and operational speparation with GPS can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2o8f6h -- Marty Shapiro Silicon Rallye Inc. (remove SPAMNOT to email me) |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
He IS in the business, ATC, to be exact. I would make book on what he
says on this subject. I'm willing to bet Kulpo would not. Ya think??? G I don't remember this screen name, until very recently. I'm voting on a new (or recycled) k00k! -- Jim in NC |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:52:10 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote: Bertie the Bunyip wrote in 0: Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or Kulp? Both seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no longer mention a good run for the money. I think Mxs will probably retain the title, but Kulp is sure closing the distance between them A picture of Kulp studying wake turbulance and operational speparation with GPS can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2o8f6h -- Marty Shapiro Silicon Rallye Inc. (remove SPAMNOT to email me) Now the two cretins speak together. And that stupid picture has only been around the web for about 10 years now. About as original as your views on GPS. |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Oct 31, 9:04 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Marty Shapiro wrote : Bertie the Bunyip wrote in 0: Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or Kulp? Both seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no longer mention a good run for the money. But splaps provided a slightly different kind of entertainment 'value', including the following which made it into my 'memorable quotes file:' "Are they quality products, or did you have some input in their design?" - McNicoll to Tarver in rec.aviation.ifr Interestingly, I can't recall Steve ever responding to Mx. Perhaps this is a useful datapoint, and could be considered for being a metric in evaluating rank. Let's call it the 'too insignificant to bother expending cycles on' metric. :P Dunno. Early days yet. I smell a world of promis here though. And just when we thought it was safe to go outside [bobbitzed] Have a day, Jon |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:40:14 GMT, (John Kulp)
wrote in : On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:07:05 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:52:22 GMT, (John Kulp) wrote in : a. why is the FAA going ahead with the building of the system? The current administration wants to privatize virtually every government service. In the case of the FAA, privatization would enable FAA to cut their workforce significantly, dodge liability exposure, and open the federal coffers to by outsourcing to big business. How does that work? Why wouldn't the government just be getting out of the business? Big business benefits from government privatization. Consider Halliburton's contract to do the Army's laundry in Iraq[1] for example. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Depends on the contract. Are you able to cite a single US government privatization that hasn't resulted in a windfall for private contractors? Privatization also removes government accountability; private corporations are not subject to FOIA requests, for example. Why should the government be accountable for something they are no longer doing. Air Traffic Control records should remain accessible to the public, as they are now, because they may establish legal culpability. Private corporations are subject to their auditors, customers, Sarbanes-Oxley and a whole host of other things. None of which will grant public access to their records as is currently possible under the FAA. Consider the November 16, 2000 case of the Mid Air Collision of a USAF F-16 and a Cessna 172 over Florida. How would the widow of the C-172 pilot have obtained ATC records indicating the controller manning the position responsible for alerting the pilots to the imminent collision was unqualified if those records where the sole property of a private contractor? b. why are the airlines backing that change? The airline industry, including the airliner manufacturers, would like nothing better than to remove congressional FAA budget oversight, and wrest the balanced governmental allocation of National Airspace System resources from US citizens, so that they can advance their air carrier agenda at the expense of other airspace users. Airliner manufacturer, Boeing, is also in the privatized ATC business.[2] Why not if they can do it better and cheaper than the government, which is a virtual sure thing. ATC is not about cheaper; it's about safer. Currently the US ATC system is the best in the world. What criteria did you use to reach your conclusion, that a new, un-tested privatized ATC system will ever end up as good, let alone better than the current system? Or is that just your unsubstantiated guess? Also consider, what if the private contractor who wins the NextGen competitive bid ATC contract is an Iranian firm (you know, like the Dubai ports scandal)? Do you feel that it would be appropriate for a foreign power to control the US skies? |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
Recently, John Kulp posted:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:16:17 GMT, "Neil Gould" wrote: It appears that your expectations are too optimistic. The reasons for the required separation in the destination airspace are wake turbulence and runway safety. GPS will not have an impact on that, and that is where and why the delays are occurring. As several others have explained, getting there faster will not mean getting on (or off) the ground faster. It may be that having 25% more flights in the air would only aggravate the situation, as the required separation would still have to be maintained in the airport's environment. And it may well not. You are only looking at rush hour times in this analysis that I can see. In that period, there may or may not be an improvement. That is when the delays are occurring. It would be easy to increase the number of flights without building any new systems if all the additional flights were scheduled in off-peak times. So, it is your notion that there may be an improvement during those times that is being questioned. But, in non-rush hours time when flights are delayed due to say weather along the flight path that an airplane is taking that could be avoided using GPS, The major impact that weather has on the airline system is due to the use of hubs. Bad weather at one of the hubs can ground flights all over the place. GPS can not move the hubs, so why would there be any change for the better? Neil |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
John Kulp wrote:
It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa If you are going to quote Wired (our slogan: If it sounds like new technology we will hype it) as a source of aviation technology I'm tapping out. |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:20:37 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote: Big business benefits from government privatization. Consider Halliburton's contract to do the Army's laundry in Iraq[1] for example. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Depends on the contract. Are you able to cite a single US government privatization that hasn't resulted in a windfall for private contractors? Sure. Prision privatization. Go look at CCA and see how when they are doing really well, as opposed to outright losses, they make a 10% return on equity. Great windfall that huh? Privatization also removes government accountability; private corporations are not subject to FOIA requests, for example. Why should the government be accountable for something they are no longer doing. Air Traffic Control records should remain accessible to the public, as they are now, because they may establish legal culpability. That's not the same thing. Who said anything about destroying records anyway? You think you'll get very far suing the government? Private corporations are subject to their auditors, customers, Sarbanes-Oxley and a whole host of other things. None of which will grant public access to their records as is currently possible under the FAA. a. that could be made part of the privatization b. auditors would require them to be available anyway for their review Consider the November 16, 2000 case of the Mid Air Collision of a USAF F-16 and a Cessna 172 over Florida. How would the widow of the C-172 pilot have obtained ATC records indicating the controller manning the position responsible for alerting the pilots to the imminent collision was unqualified if those records where the sole property of a private contractor? By suing them, of course. Have you never heard of discovery? b. why are the airlines backing that change? The airline industry, including the airliner manufacturers, would like nothing better than to remove congressional FAA budget oversight, and wrest the balanced governmental allocation of National Airspace System resources from US citizens, so that they can advance their air carrier agenda at the expense of other airspace users. Airliner manufacturer, Boeing, is also in the privatized ATC business.[2] Why not if they can do it better and cheaper than the government, which is a virtual sure thing. ATC is not about cheaper; it's about safer. Currently the US ATC system is the best in the world. What criteria did you use to reach your conclusion, that a new, un-tested privatized ATC system will ever end up as good, let alone better than the current system? Or is that just your unsubstantiated guess? Says who? Claiming that an ATC system based on WWII technology is better and safer than a GPS system is plain ludicrous. There are plenty of these already in use worldwide. Go look at them. Also consider, what if the private contractor who wins the NextGen competitive bid ATC contract is an Iranian firm (you know, like the Dubai ports scandal)? Do you feel that it would be appropriate for a foreign power to control the US skies? Did Dubai get the ports? And just where was the scandal? In the minds of xenophobic idiots like those that locked up the Japanese Americans in WWII. Guess what the scandal was there. An Iranian firm. Right. State of the art technology there. HAHAHAHA! |
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:09:16 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: John Kulp wrote: It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa If you are going to quote Wired (our slogan: If it sounds like new technology we will hype it) as a source of aviation technology I'm tapping out. Feel free. Do a google search yourself and you will find plenty. This is just one I came across. |
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